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tomthediver
05-28-2007, 01:18 PM
Hi All, Let’s draw the line and play cons vs. pros (or vice versa)….. I’ll start with what CMU does not have/is not…… 1…. Does not follow principles of ethics in business..... 2. …Does not have local government license to operate ..... 3…..Does not look like the school ever asked license..... 4…..Does not look like they are going to get one..... 5…..It’s not listed at WHO.... 6…..It’s not IMED listed..... 7…..Students cannot take USMLE...... 8…..Does not have own web site (just stole one from SGU)...... 9…..Does not understand basic principles of medical education..... 10…..Does not have clinical sites in the States (or anywhere else)...... 11…..Does not have anatomy and hysto labs..... 12…Does not have professors ...... 13…Does not have a dean...... 14…Does not have dean of students..... 15…Does not have curriculum...... 16…Does not have one single graduate..... 17.... Does not have any assets.... 18….Does not have a clue how to solve this mess...... Does have...... 1. Laundry pick up (we do not know about return yet)..... 2. Indian food.......3. Cheerleaders .......4. Lab coats with the school’s logo..... 5. Basket ball net...... 6. Video camera....... 7. Very questionable school officials..... 8. Free water (good quality though) and toilet paper..... 9. Misleading information on the web site..... 10....Problem with immigration (whoever works at the CMU do not have work permits) 11. Potential law suit for plagiarism...... .....Still want to attend????... Please send application to Chicago, O’Hara airport, 3rd rundown building to the right……. If I forgot something, feel free to add..... Have a good day, .....Cheers.......THD...

dt
05-28-2007, 01:32 PM
Hi All, Let’s draw the line and play cons vs. pros (or vice versa)….. I’ll start with what CMU does not have/is not…… 1…. Does not follow principles of ethics in business..... 2. …Does not have local government license to operate ..... 3…..Does not look like the school ever asked license..... 4…..Does not look like they are going to get one..... 5…..It’s not listed at WHO.... 6…..It’s not IMED listed..... 7…..Students cannot take USMLE...... 8…..Does not have own web site (just stole one from SGU)...... 9…..Does not understand basic principles of medical education..... 10…..Does not have clinical sites in the States (or anywhere else)...... 11…..Does not have anatomy and hysto labs..... 12…Does not have professors ...... 13…Does not have a dean...... 14…Does not have dean of students..... 15…Does not have curriculum...... 16…Does not have one single graduate..... 17.... Does not have any assets.... 18….Does not have a clue how to solve this mess...... Does have...... 1. Laundry pick up (we do not know about return yet)..... 2. Indian food.......3. Cheerleaders .......4. Lab coats with the school’s logo..... 5. Basket ball net...... 6. Video camera....... 7. Very questionable school officials..... 8. Free water (good quality though) and toilet paper..... 9. Misleading information on the web site..... 10....Problem with immigration (whoever works at the CMU do not have work permits) 11. Potential law suit for plagiarism...... .....Still want to attend????... Please send application to Chicago, O’Hara airport, 3rd rundown building to the right……. If I forgot something, feel free to add..... Have a good day, .....Cheers.......THD...


Well, lets be fair...

They should be eventually listed in IMED. This requirement is so fundamental that I dont think anyone starting a valid medical school will overlook this.

Listing in WHO webpage right now is impossible as WHO is undergoing changes with the medical school directory with University of Copenhagen.

Writing the USMLE is linked to IMED listing (see above).

They do have their own website. It's just plagerized in areas.

You expect to have a graduate already?? After a week in existence??

No professors?? Are the current students just sitting around (and making videos)?? Yeah, that's it!

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 01:37 PM
Well, lets be fair...

They should be eventually listed in IMED. This requirement is so fundamental that I dont think anyone starting a valid medical school will overlook this.

Listing in WHO webpage right now is impossible as WHO is undergoing changes with the medical school directory with University of Copenhagen.

Writing the USMLE is linked to IMED listing (see above).

They do have their own website. It's just plagerized in areas.

You expect to have a graduate already?? After a week in existence??

No professors?? Are the current students just sitting around (and making videos)?? Yeah, that's it!

Hi, All....Basically, if school is not accredited by local government, it's impossible to get listed at WHO with all following consequences..... Have a nice day...Cheers. THD...

dt
05-28-2007, 01:43 PM
Hi, All....Basically, if school is not accredited by local government, it's impossible to get listed at WHO with all following consequences..... Have a nice day...Cheers. THD...


How do you know for sure that they are not? Please provide proof.

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 04:18 PM
How do you know for sure that they are not? Please provide proof.

Hi, I've been trying for almost 2 weeks to get at least some papers from CMU,... whatever papers.... all my requests have been ignored...... you think they have them?...... I do not think so...... Have a nice day, Cheers...... THD

gyropyre
05-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Hi All, Let’s draw the line and play cons vs. pros (or vice versa)….. I’ll start with what CMU does not have/is not…… 1…. Does not follow principles of ethics in business..... 2. …Does not have local government license to operate ..... 3…..Does not look like the school ever asked license..... 4…..Does not look like they are going to get one..... 5…..It’s not listed at WHO.... 6…..It’s not IMED listed..... 7…..Students cannot take USMLE...... 8…..Does not have own web site (just stole one from SGU)...... 9…..Does not understand basic principles of medical education..... 10…..Does not have clinical sites in the States (or anywhere else)...... 11…..Does not have anatomy and hysto labs..... 12…Does not have professors ...... 13…Does not have a dean...... 14…Does not have dean of students..... 15…Does not have curriculum...... 16…Does not have one single graduate..... 17.... Does not have any assets.... 18….Does not have a clue how to solve this mess...... Does have...... 1. Laundry pick up (we do not know about return yet)..... 2. Indian food.......3. Cheerleaders .......4. Lab coats with the school’s logo..... 5. Basket ball net...... 6. Video camera....... 7. Very questionable school officials..... 8. Free water (good quality though) and toilet paper..... 9. Misleading information on the web site..... 10....Problem with immigration (whoever works at the CMU do not have work permits) 11. Potential law suit for plagiarism...... .....Still want to attend????... Please send application to Chicago, O’Hara airport, 3rd rundown building to the right……. If I forgot something, feel free to add..... Have a good day, .....Cheers.......THD...

Lets expand tomthediver's logic.

My neighbor has a 4 cyl sedan coz he cannot afford a V8. I can.
My friend has HIV so he cannot have a sex partner. I can.
My cousin in UK cannot afford to buy a V-12 benz. I can.
My best friend's girlfriend has vaginismus. Mine doesnot.

Have you seen sensible people use this logic?
Chill out, if your school is better, its good for you. People attending CMU are not racially or intellectually inferior to you, let them use their brain cells. If they have two-digit IQs and you are more knowledgable, they will be excluded from the system by natural selection.

Please have some self respect and donot degrade yourself by making fun of other people's choices. They are as human as yourself. People have the right to make bad choices. Let 'em live.

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 04:51 PM
Lets expand tomthediver's logic.

My neighbor has a 4 cyl sedan coz he cannot afford a V8. I can.
My friend has HIV so he cannot have a sex partner. I can.
My cousin in UK cannot afford to buy a V-12 benz. I can.
My best friend's girlfriend has vaginismus. Mine doesnot.

Have you seen sensible people use this logic?
Chill out, if your school is better, its good for you. People attending CMU are not racially or intellectually inferior to you, let them use their brain cells. If they have two-digit IQs and you are more knowledgable, they will be excluded from the system by natural selection.

Please have some self respect and donot degrade yourself by making fun of other people's choices. They are as human as yourself. People have the right to make bad choices. Let 'em live.

Hi, Let me think about what you've said....... Done..... I am going to do what I think is right.... the rest does not matter..... Have a nice day, Cheers, THD

dt
05-28-2007, 04:59 PM
Hi, Let me think about what you've said....... Done..... I am going to do what I think is right.... the rest does not matter..... Have a nice day, Cheers, THD

Thought only for 7 dots longs? That's not very long.
Have a nice day. Cheers. THD.

dt
05-28-2007, 05:16 PM
Hi, I've been trying for almost 2 weeks to get at least some papers from CMU,... whatever papers.... all my requests have been ignored...... you think they have them?...... I do not think so...... Have a nice day, Cheers...... THD

Why should they provide you with papers? Did you apply and got accepted?

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 05:16 PM
Thought only for 7 dots longs? That's not very long.
Have a nice day. Cheers. THD.

Hi, I did not start insults....so amount of dots represents depth of your recommendation (to be sure you got it, it not a lot).... Have a nice day,.....Cheers.....THD

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Why should they provide you with papers?

Hi, cause I pay money..... Have a nice day,.... Cheers,.....THD

dt
05-28-2007, 05:20 PM
Hi, cause I pay money..... Have a nice day,.... Cheers,.....THD

Pay money for what? To see the papers?

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 05:21 PM
Pay money for what? To see the papers?

To get education????

dt
05-28-2007, 05:31 PM
To get education????

So, you're saying that you pay for the education. If you paid and am now a student, why are you bad-mouthing your own school?

I doubt that you are a student of CMU.


Besides, didnt CMU state that the IMED listing should be up soon. Cant you wait a few weeks to see if that happened?

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 05:37 PM
So, you're saying that you pay for the education. If you paid and am now a student, why are you bad-mouthing your own school?

I doubt that you are a student of CMU.


Besides, didnt CMU state that the IMED listing should be up soon. Cant you wait a few weeks to see if that happened?

Hi, ..... they did state about IMED, but before IMED should be WHO.... before WHO should be charter from local government.... We are back to where we started this conversation..... I'd like to see ANY official paper..... Why it's so difficult??? Have a nice day.,....Cheers....THD

hotdog
05-28-2007, 05:49 PM
Hey dt,
I'm new to this board and been reading some posts... just out of curiousity, are you a student at CMU or employed by CMU?

Arlo M.D.
05-28-2007, 06:15 PM
It's amazing how you know so much information about CMU...how much time do u spend studying it??? all day?...u like to act as if you are so smart and are knowlegable in every area of medicine...what grade or class are u in?? if ur even in school...all the things u comment on are pointless... The students here make a video!! so what? they just want to have a little bit of fun while going through this process so quit trying to make a big deal...plus this school has been open for no more than 2 weeks...u expect everything to be done at the blink of an eye...how long did it take your school to get it's papers? (considering it was the only school then)...I think you need to stop worrying about CMU and its affairs and start dealing with your own problems...:p

dt
05-28-2007, 06:18 PM
Hi, ..... they did state about IMED, but before IMED should be WHO.... before WHO should be charter from local government.... We are back to where we started this conversation..... I'd like to see ANY official paper..... Why it's so difficult??? Have a nice day.,....Cheers....THD


I have no idea what you're talking about re WHO and IMED. You dont need WHO before IMED -- at least that's has not been the case. Who knows what the new arrangement with WHO, IMED and University of Copenhagen is? (If you know, how would you know?)

Why should they provide you with any paper? You're not their student. You're just upset that there is competition.

dt
05-28-2007, 06:19 PM
Hey dt,
I'm new to this board and been reading some posts... just out of curiousity, are you a student at CMU or employed by CMU?

neither...

tomthediver
05-28-2007, 06:26 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about re WHO and IMED. You dont need WHO before IMED -- at least that's has not been the case. Who knows what the new arrangement with WHO, IMED and University of Copenhagen is? (If you know, how would you know?)

Why should they provide you with any paper? You're not their student. You're just upset that there is competition.

Do not be ridiculous...... if i would be competitor, my lawyer would ask questions and not on vmd......On the other hand let people do whatever they want.... if they think the school is good, Godspeed... Have a nice you know what, ...Cheers....THD

gyropyre
05-28-2007, 08:27 PM
Hi, Let me think about what you've said....... Done..... I am going to do what I think is right.... the rest does not matter..... Have a nice day, Cheers, THD


Thats your problem..delusions of adequacy in doctors are lethal for patients...

lindas29
05-28-2007, 09:02 PM
hey tomthediver ....have a good day

IMG SURVIVOR
05-28-2007, 09:05 PM
Besides, didnt CMU state that the IMED listing should be up soon. Cant you wait a few weeks to see if that happened?

Actually it was for the end of May.

Now he did not specify what year.

nl9569
05-28-2007, 09:30 PM
Guys, this infantile quibbling and pedantic behaviour will get us NO WHERE we need to get back to some semblance of refined discussion. I don't know about anyone else but I want to here some more about this damn basketball net.

superhumper
06-04-2007, 09:01 PM
Sorry about your friend....


Lets expand tomthediver's logic.

My neighbor has a 4 cyl sedan coz he cannot afford a V8. I can.
My friend has HIV so he cannot have a sex partner. I can.
My cousin in UK cannot afford to buy a V-12 benz. I can.
My best friend's girlfriend has vaginismus. Mine doesnot.

Have you seen sensible people use this logic?
Chill out, if your school is better, its good for you. People attending CMU are not racially or intellectually inferior to you, let them use their brain cells. If they have two-digit IQs and you are more knowledgable, they will be excluded from the system by natural selection.

Please have some self respect and donot degrade yourself by making fun of other people's choices. They are as human as yourself. People have the right to make bad choices. Let 'em live.

superhumper
06-16-2007, 05:01 PM
Guys, this infantile quibbling and pedantic behaviour will get us NO WHERE we need to get back to some semblance of refined discussion. I don't know about anyone else but I want to here some more about this darn basketball net.

There is nothing more, not even charter...

superhumper
07-01-2007, 09:36 PM
I agree with tomthediver and for the sake of prospective students want to bring it up. Please read page 1.