Admission standards at SABA & all Caribbean

[gianefiasco]

Some people appear to be extra sensitive (touchy?) about this issue and I'm wondering why?

As a 4th semester student I find it hard to believe that anything more then a tuition payment and heart beat is required to get INTO any caribbean medical school- -> THE difficult part is not admissions it's STAYING HERE. Getting good grades and doing well on the USMLE will require FAR FAR more then just having a pulse. Just deal with it, its a second chance school where it is now totally up to the individual to make of it what they will.

I am thankful the opportunity exists or I would never have been able to become a doctor, and even that is far from happening. I did not get accepted back home in Canada where they actually do have admissions standards requiring much more then an application and method of payment.

/end rant

[mike james]

nice post...do you know what the avg gpa & mcat scores are of students? also how do the Canadians perform in class, usmle, securing residency, etc?

[gianefiasco]

nice post...do you know what the avg gpa & mcat scores are of students? also how do the Canadians perform in class, usmle, securing residency, etc?

No this kind of information is not released. in fact very little information is released which is why there is so much hypothesizing done about what admission standards really are and whether they are going up or down etc.

Canadians in my class perform very well just from my own viewing. BUt its generally not whether your an americna or candian that determines your success its your stress level. It seems that most peeople who fail out or struggle are the ones who talk to few people and let stress take over their lives.

As far as residency and USMLE goes I dont know cause Im not there. And the information the school releases is limited at best and shady if your cynic..like me! I do know some people get great residencies though, so I'm just focused on being one of them.

[mike james]

what avg do u estimate from looking at your classmates? like a 3.2-3.5 gpa with 24-28 mcat score?

[Canadaguy]

I disagree with the comment by gianefiasco that you need only a pulse and a method of payment to get into Caribbean schools... especially the Big 4. For example, Saba can only accomodate about 60-70 students per semester at the present time. I find it hard to believe that the 60-70 people that started with my class were the only people who sent in applications. There is a limit on spots, and as a result of this limit there is competition to get in.

One exception for the big 4 may be Ross, but I don't even really know the facts about this. From what I hear on these forums, Ross is a big "weed out" school that accepts everyone and has a competition in the first few semesters to see who can survive. I'm not trying to bash Ross, I don't even know if this is true or just rumours made up by competing schools. Maybe some Ross people can comment on this?

I do believe that newer schools that receive fewer applications will accept anyone who can pay.

When it comes down to it, I believe that Saba, St. Georges, AUC and probably Ross, accept the people that just didn't make it into American or Canadian medical schools. It only makes sense. Do you think they take the people who did miserably in undergrad or do they take the people who had a 3.4 or 3.5 GPA (or even 3.8 in Canada) but didn't get in?

[maserati]

When SABA called me a to set up an interview time slot, they were COMPLETELY booked with interviews for 1 whole month! I think that translates into "competition!" and I also disagree with gianefiasco who believes that as long as you pay your tuition and have a pulse you'll get in. Sure, let's be realistic, it's not a N.Am. med school but I don't think it's a barn either.

I wish the best of luck to new applicants. It's an exciting time!

[medschool22]

the big 4 accept people who they believe can actually make it. It wouldn't make sense to accept someone who has a 2.2 undergrad gpa, 16 MCAT, but has a heartbeat and money. They may be about the money, but how well we do only helps them in the end.

[AUCMD2006]

When SABA called me a to set up an interview time slot, they were COMPLETELY booked with interviews for 1 whole month! I think that translates into "competition!" and I also disagree with gianefiasco who believes that as long as you pay your tuition and have a pulse you'll get in. Sure, let's be realistic, it's not a N.Am. med school but I don't think it's a barn either.

I wish the best of luck to new applicants. It's an exciting time!


not really, they usually have former alumni or full time physicians with real jobs doing the interviews and no one full time completely doing interviews 7 days a week.

figure a nadfull of people interviewing in a few cities with full time work schedules maybe being able to fit in 1-2 interviews a week thats only 8 for the month of however many students per block

[medschool22]

not really, they usually have former alumni or full time physicians with real jobs doing the interviews and no one full time completely doing interviews 7 days a week.

figure a nadfull of people interviewing in a few cities with full time work schedules maybe being able to fit in 1-2 interviews a week thats only 8 for the month of however many students per block

Only people I know that do interviews are Dr. B******** and that other guy. They also do interviews at Gardner, but that's more if you're close to their office.

They do ~ 2-4 interviews per day, and I'd say at least 4 per day as it gets closer to the start of a particular semester. And they do get pretty booked with about 2 months before a semester starts.

[darkmansaad]

why do all of you care how many people your up against or what standards you may or may not be measuring up to. you got into a med school, ur gonna have to bust ur *** to do well on the step 1s and thats it. im surprised this is even an issue, shows how big egos can be

[maserati]

why do all of you care how many people your up against or what standards you may or may not be measuring up to. you got into a med school, ur gonna have to bust ur *** to do well on the step 1s and thats it. im surprised this is even an issue, shows how big egos can be

this is a forum, where people ask questions on academic status, application process etc. it's where people find more info and we all compare, that's how you get a feel of where you stand in whatever field you're aiming for.

i don't think it's a matter of having big egos.

this is what a forum's for.

questions / answers / comparison / learn

[darkmansaad]

yeah, this is a forum. not a single piece of information here is verifiable. i think for 3 months i was told the school WASNT being sold on this forum, then it was sold. basically to cut a rant short, not a single person here is on the admissions committee telling you the "real" deal from admin, which in the end may or may not even be the truth to begin with. so your pretty much "learning" from information that is almost guaranteed to be inaccurate. good job

[gianefiasco]

I disagree with the comment by gianefiasco that you need only a pulse and a method of payment to get into Caribbean schools... especially the Big 4. For example, Saba can only accomodate about 60-70 students per semester at the present time. I find it hard to believe that the 60-70 people that started with my class were the only people who sent in applications. There is a limit on spots, and as a result of this limit there is competition to get in.

One exception for the big 4 may be Ross, but I don't even really know the facts about this. From what I hear on these forums, Ross is a big "weed out" school that accepts everyone and has a competition in the first few semesters to see who can survive. I'm not trying to bash Ross, I don't even know if this is true or just rumours made up by competing schools. Maybe some Ross people can comment on this?

I do believe that newer schools that receive fewer applications will accept anyone who can pay.

When it comes down to it, I believe that Saba, St. Georges, AUC and probably Ross, accept the people that just didn't make it into American or Canadian medical schools. It only makes sense. Do you think they take the people who did miserably in undergrad or do they take the people who had a 3.4 or 3.5 GPA (or even 3.8 in Canada) but didn't get in?

okay but class size varies tremendouzly semester to semester. My class was a "small class" we started with around 58. The class after us was "big" and had 70. Was this because they could not find enough qualified applicants for my class? Or was it because there were simply less apllicants? I have no idea, no one besides the admission people and SABA owners does. I know we are all Hypothesizing here (you yourself said "I believe) so this is all just talk as darkmansaad has said.
But heres my points for pulse and tuition payment:
1. Look around at your classmates. SOME barely meet the pulse requirement.
2.class size varies alot. This to me says admissions are based on applicantions alone. granted they probably will reject u if u exhibit some severe personality disorder over the phone.
3. This is a place for failed US and CANADIAN med school applicants. So how high can the standards really be, assumign there are any.

Anyways this may all be a load of ** because we will never get the numbers and stats anyways. I mean they are shady enough with the USMLE pass rates...will we ever get the true numbers on that, i doubt it.

[maserati]

okay but class size varies tremendouzly semester to semester. My class was a "small class" we started with around 58. The class after us was "big" and had 70. Was this because they could not find enough qualified applicants for my class? Or was it because there were simply less apllicants? I have no idea, no one besides the admission people and SABA owners does. I know we are all Hypothesizing here (you yourself said "I believe) so this is all just talk as darkmansaad has said.
But heres my points for pulse and tuition payment:
1. Look around at your classmates. SOME barely meet the pulse requirement.
2.class size varies alot. This to me says admissions are based on applicantions alone. granted they probably will reject u if u exhibit some severe personality disorder over the phone.
3. This is a place for failed US and CANADIAN med school applicants. So how high can the standards really be, assumign there are any.

Anyways this may all be a load of ** because we will never get the numbers and stats anyways. I mean they are shady enough with the USMLE pass rates...will we ever get the true numbers on that, i doubt it.


We know that this is a "second chance" school.
But we all have various reasons as to why we didn't achieve great marks
in school, health / family / interest etc. The important thing is we believe in it and we're not giving up.

I'm agree with some of your view points however I simply think that there are nicer ways of expressing your opinion.

[JeebusLives]

please tell the pulse thing to people who got rejected. lolz!

[tpw2k]

people get rejected from Saba all the time, I don't know what your talking about with the low standards

[billydoc]

people get rejected from Saba all the time, I don't know what your talking about with the low standards


Yeah, well....may be their pulse was kind irregular, so was the credit score ;) . And adcom did themselves a favor and passed on those lol :twisted:

[mike james]

whats the lowest scores/stats anyone has heard of getting in?

[gianefiasco]

whats the lowest scores/stats anyone has heard of getting in?

I dunno but I bet its pretty terrible LOL. I dont know how many people will admit to that down here. Alot of people act like they should have been accepted to Harvard Medical and are only SUSOM because **insert lame excuse here*

[Saba23]

When I was on the island, I sometimes thought the same things (eg Did it just take a pulse to get into Saba?). But when you do your clinical rotations you realize that some of the US grads aren't rocket scientists either.

Looking back, I've got a lot of respect for those that pounded the books every night and got solid board scores even if they weren't the sharpest tools in the sheds.

[mike james]

any chance of <20 mcat scores? & <3.0 gpa?

[don1]

I don't know the standards at SABA but I can say I got rejected with a gpa of 3.4 mcat 25. I also did a masters (gpa 3.8) in medical research and believed I interviewed well. My chemistry grades were the reason I didn't get in, although I got in at other carribean schools I applied to. there was concern I would not pass the USLME step one because of my C in general chemistry.

also, I turned down my acceptance at Harvard and Stanford because I didn't think they had a good reputation. lol

I dunno but I bet its pretty terrible LOL. I dont know how many people will admit to that down here. Alot of people act like they should have been accepted to Harvard Medical and are only SUSOM because **insert lame excuse here*

[Canadaguy]

I can confirm from speaking to a couple of my classmates that everyone is not accepted. They had husbands/boyfriends that wanted to come to Saba also, but were not accepted. They were however, given a chance to go to MUA.

I do agree that not everyone here seems like the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm not sure if that's a poor reflection on admissions standards, or if it is a poor reflection of the American/Canadian education systems.

[trb_5]

cant you just look at the average stats like every other school and see?

auc is like 3.2 with 24
sgu is like 3.4 with 28
iono about ross
and no idea about saba though

[js_paramedic_1979]

There was a document linked on here a couple of months back that listed the GPA and etc. for the entering class in '05.. It was my understanding that the document was put out by the school for one of the state medical boards. I guess the numbers may have changed some since then, but it would probably be a good estimate.. Sorry, I don't remember the title on the thread..

JS

[KarmaInsight]

I don't know the standards at SABA but I can say I got rejected with a gpa of 3.4 mcat 25. I also did a masters (gpa 3.8) in medical research and believed I interviewed well. My chemistry grades were the reason I didn't get in, although I got in at other carribean schools I applied to. there was concern I would not pass the USLME step one because of my C in general chemistry.

also, I turned down my acceptance at Harvard and Stanford because I didn't think they had a good reputation. lol

Don, try applying to Spartan college of medicine. From what I can tell you would fit in good there.

[giovannidoe]

I am so exceedingly amused to hear people such as this scared little bitch get so tough behind his or her computer screen. You seem like such a damaged, obnoxious individual. You basically have said that you are the sh*t and all of your classmates as morons. That is pathetic. People like you make people have low opinions of doctors. Why don't you just get back to your books and stop typing. God bless.



I dunno but I bet its pretty terrible LOL. I dont know how many people will admit to that down here. Alot of people act like they should have been accepted to Harvard Medical and are only SUSOM because **insert lame excuse here*

[JeebusLives]

I am so exceedingly amused to hear people such as this scared little man's best friend get so tough behind his or her computer screen. You seem like such a damaged, obnoxious individual. You basically have said that you are the pooh pooh and all of your classmates as morons. That is pathetic. People like you make people have low opinions of doctors. Why don't you just get back to your books and stop typing. God bless.

This comment seemed out of place. I actually agree with fiasco that alot of students here act like theyre better than ther really are. And they will realize that when theyre treated like dirt in clinicals and possibly residency.

What i dont agree with him on is that theres no standards here.

[gianefiasco]

I don't know the standards at SABA but I can say I got rejected with a gpa of 3.4 mcat 25. I also did a masters (gpa 3.8) in medical research and believed I interviewed well. My chemistry grades were the reason I didn't get in, although I got in at other carribean schools I applied to. there was concern I would not pass the USLME step one because of my C in general chemistry.

also, I turned down my acceptance at Harvard and Stanford because I didn't think they had a good reputation. lol

LOL good show.

TO all other repliers:

giovannidoe: try working on those reading comprehension skills so you know when to pick your battles and perhaps even pass your Step 1's!

Jeebuslives. Alrite so were agreed about the attitude problem displayed here but not about admission standards? Okay my main poiint is as you realized that the school has no admission standards. I have no concrete proof that this is the case , but have never been shown or heard anything concrete that there are. ALl I have to go on is the people I see admitted, and LOL that leads me directly to my main point--> no admission standards.

Saba23: Hey thanks for that. I think that may come with little more time and reflection, but from where im standing Im glad someone else sees my point of view. i think I will ahve alot of respect for everyone who makes it off this rock regardless of my opinions ofthem now, its just will any of them make if off the rock?? LOL

Canadaguy: I have the exact opposite inofrmation from people ive talked to. ANYONE I know who has applied has gotten accepted, ,maybe not to the semester they want, but always accepted. They were all university graduates with pulse and tuition payments! (lol) Im thinking there must have been SERIOUS problems with these peoples applications to not get accepted. I mean this is a business , the class size varies hugely and i see no reason for them not to accept almost anyone as its allup to the student (even the ones with stellar stats) once they get here. And I am sure they ALL got offers to MUA as thats the SABA overflow since there is limited room here (which is about to change with new dorms ad new buildings)

[KarmaInsight]

LOL good show.

TO all other repliers:

giovannidoe: try working on those reading comprehension skills so you know when to pick your battles and perhaps even pass your Step 1's!

Jeebuslives. Alrite so were agreed about the attitude problem displayed here but not about admission standards? Okay my main poiint is as you realized that the school has no admission standards. I have no concrete proof that this is the case , but have never been shown or heard anything concrete that there are. ALl I have to go on is the people I see admitted, and LOL that leads me directly to my main point--> no admission standards.

Saba23: Hey thanks for that. I think that may come with little more time and reflection, but from where im standing Im glad someone else sees my point of view. i think I will ahve alot of respect for everyone who makes it off this rock regardless of my opinions ofthem now, its just will any of them make if off the rock?? LOL

Canadaguy: I have the exact opposite inofrmation from people ive talked to. ANYONE I know who has applied has gotten accepted, ,maybe not to the semester they want, but always accepted. They were all university graduates with pulse and tuition payments! (lol) Im thinking there must have been SERIOUS problems with these peoples applications to not get accepted. I mean this is a business , the class size varies hugely and i see no reason for them not to accept almost anyone as its allup to the student (even the ones with stellar stats) once they get here. And I am sure they ALL got offers to MUA as thats the SABA overflow since there is limited room here (which is about to change with new dorms ad new buildings)

I would normal remain silent on things like this but I can't help but say...
In my class MOST had very good stats. We have a couple PA's, RN's, PT's and even a chiropractor. Of the non ex-health care workers most came with good grades and some have even had 30+ on the MCAT. So your theory of a pulse with some money is crazy. There has only been one or two that I thought admissions really dropped the ball on. Those students had major language issues and/or seemed to lack the basic ability to learn, they of course didn't make it on to the next term. There's a reason why Saba produces grads that do so well, #1 its a great little school, #2 picked great students and #3 have good teachers with small classes. Only thing I have on my wish list is that students appear professional and act like doctors, I see some students who for lack a better word look and act like thugs. Lets hope they change that...

[TMM]

I would normal remain silent on things like this but I can't help but say...
In my class MOST had very good stats. We have a couple PA's, RN's, PT's and even a chiropractor. Of the non ex-health care workers most came with good grades and some have even had 30+ on the MCAT. So your theory of a pulse with some money is crazy. There has only been one or two that I thought admissions really dropped the ball on. Those students had major language issues and/or seemed to lack the basic ability to learn, they of course didn't make it on to the next term. There's a reason why Saba produces grads that do so well, #1 its a great little school, #2 picked great students and #3 have good teachers with small classes. Only thing I have on my wish list is that students appear professional and act like doctors, I see some students who for lack a better word look and act like thugs. Lets hope they change that...

you have something wrong, there are no students who are thugs if they are at SABA. Just because someone dresses a certain way or speaks a certain way doesn't mean they are a thug. They have obviously put effort into school in order to get where they are. I thought we learned to get past stereotypes in elementary school.

[KarmaInsight]

you have something wrong, there are no students who are thugs if they are at SABA. Just because someone dresses a certain way or speaks a certain way doesn't mean they are a thug. They have obviously put effort into school in order to get where they are. I thought we learned to get past stereotypes in elementary school.

Hmmm, your not even on the island yet. You are still posting on what are my chances thread.:p So save your little advice for IF you come to Saba and IF you make it before you spit out something that you have no idea about.

[Tellingitlikeitis]

I just want to say this. Chiropractors are not real doctors. THats why there are so many of them at Saba. Are there a lot of MD's in chiropractor school? I think not. Being a chiropractor is kinda like being a witch doctor, or one of those Naturopathic doctors. Heres some St. Johns wart, and some garlic, dont get real medical advice. I shake my magic stick and heal you.

[KarmaInsight]

I just want to say this. Chiropractors are not real doctors. THats why there are so many of them at Saba. Are there a lot of MD's in chiropractor school? I think not. Being a chiropractor is kinda like being a witch doctor, or one of those Naturopathic doctors. Heres some St. Johns wart, and some garlic, dont get real medical advice. I shake my magic stick and heal you.

Whos defending Chiros? True they are limited in what they can and can't do. For lower back pain I might see one but that would be the only case.

[Tellingitlikeitis]

Can Chiropractors do anything other than take your money? Hmmmm.....Your back hurts? Let me attach these electrodes to your back and give you some electric shocks.

[golfman]

Please become educated on the subject matter before making these obsurd remarks. All medicine has it's limits. To think that just because you are going to be an MD that you will have all the answers is shallow and narrow-minded. Chiropractors serve a great purpose within it's limits. If there wasn't scientific proof that each of these fields worked then it wouldn't exist. If you want to make yourself feel good by bashing others find somewhere else to do it. That is not what this place is for.

[JeebusLives]

If there wasn't scientific proof that each of these fields worked then it wouldn't exist.



i dont know how true this statement is. alotta things exist without proof. like 8lb6oz baby jesus.

[gianefiasco]

WOW lot going on in this thread now.

1.Saba Thugs and sterotyping.

2.Chiropractic Medicine Real Vs. Haox

3.Baby Jesus was he real or wasnt he. (lol jeebuslives)



LOL this gets my vote for thread of the month!



As far as the thugs comment I havent seen any, but I did grow up in a major city so am not alarmed and frightened by what people wear.IN fact the level of fashion awareness and dressing ability exhibited by THE VAST majority of students is quite sub-par but I digress!

Regarding chiropractic medicine, I have no real comment here other then I went to one once because my hamstrings were really sore and tight and he did something (magic?!?!) and it went away...agin I digress.

AS for Baby Jesus I hope he was real, otherwise all my WWJD jokes have been for nothing!!!:twisted:

[Tellingitlikeitis]

This is off topic, just thought I would add it in though. DO you know one of the reasons why food is so expensive on the island? Becuase many of the locals dont pay for food. Have you ever noticed that when you are in the grocery store, there are never really any locals there? Thats because they get their food delivered to them, and they dont pay for it. But saba students sure will.

[KarmaInsight]

This is off topic, just thought I would add it in though. DO you know one of the reasons why food is so expensive on the island? Becuase many of the locals dont pay for food. Have you ever noticed that when you are in the grocery store, there are never really any locals there? Thats because they get their food delivered to them, and they dont pay for it. But saba students sure will.

The locals don't pay for food? hmmmm, so it's just delivered like magic?:confused:

[darkmansaad]

wow 2 things jeebuslives has officially made one of the funniest posts in a while, congrats

tellingitlikeitis; you have just proved that there really are no admissions standards if you are indeed a student, thank you

[JeebusLives]

i think what tellingitlikeitis was saying is that the locals get their food for cheaper than we do.

and the reason we dont see them in grocery stores is because if we saw them paying less for the same item wed throw a fit or something.

so they get their food for a lower price than what we pay and they get it delivered so we dont know about it.

its an interesting conspiracy theory. but i dont think that if it were true that people would be able to keep it secret for long. so wed know about it anyways.

[krust3]

Only thing I have on my wish list is that students appear professional and act like doctors, I see some students who for lack a better word look and act like thugs. Lets hope they change that...

check yoself playa. talk'n smack gon getchu a cap in yo az son.
BRAP, BRRRRRRRRAP!

you ain't hawd son. now ah been workin deez streetz chasin that dolla ya heard. an ya i been hit wit few bullets but ah don't walk with a limp.

RESPECK!

[mike james]

good to know the 'thugs' still keepin it real. lol

[KarmaInsight]

check yoself playa. talk'n smack gon getchu a cap in yo az son.
BRAP, BRRRRRRRRAP!

you ain't hawd son. now ah been workin deez streetz chasin that dolla ya heard. an ya i been hit wit few bullets but ah don't walk with a limp.

RESPECK!

I think that's pretty racist, KR. :twisted:

[spreebee]

I just want to say this. Chiropractors are not real doctors. THats why there are so many of them at Saba. Are there a lot of MD's in chiropractor school? I think not. Being a chiropractor is kinda like being a witch doctor, or one of those Naturopathic doctors. Heres some St. Johns wart, and some garlic, dont get real medical advice. I shake my magic stick and heal you.

Hey, no need to dis chiropractors...They are great for skeletal problems... I knocked my shoulder out and it was either surgery or a quick pop back in... Got my should popped in by a chiropractor and 4 years later still no problems...

[JeebusLives]

I think that's pretty racist, KR. :twisted:

krust3 didnt imply any particular race in his reply. youre the one who associated a race with it. lolz!

[rdecastro]

I think that's pretty racist, KR. :twisted:

Why? Sounds like most c Rap music...

[Canadaguy]

Man, what happened to this thread? It started out as a discussion about admission standards and turned into a random sounding board about thugs, chiropractic medicine, grocery prices, and a bunch of other things.

So, to continue the random discussion...

Thugs: I haven't seen that many student thugs. Certainly a few local thugs though...

Regarding the groceries: I also find it suspicious that I almost never see locals at the grocery stores. Maybe there is something to the theory about cheaper prices for locals. I was prepared for high grocery prices before I arrived here, but I'm still shocked every time I go shopping!

[darkmansaad]

im going to have to guess that the locals go shopping between the hours of say...8 am and 3 pm WHEN EVERYONE IS ON CAMPUS

[sabaspouse2006]

im going to have to guess that the locals go shopping between the hours of say...8 am and 3 pm WHEN EVERYONE IS ON CAMPUS

Well, as entertaining as the conspiracy theory is to read, I guess I could dispell some of the hype. I agree with darkman. I was in Big Rock at 10:30 this morning. In about 10 minutes I saw 11 locals. I counted. Honest. Eleven.

I think that the locals are accustomed to shopping in the day time and seem to buy less groceries in one visit. I see locals in the stores all the time during the day. They are in and out fairly quickly (while my toddler spends time walking around, looking at everything). Less stuff to buy means less time in line at the cashier and less visibility.

In addition, the locals know who to go to for fresh local fruits and fish. Once you get to know them, they let you in on their secrets.....

In most societies, one member of the family does the grocery shopping. Saba is no different. 1500 people minus the 400 or so Saban children on the island = 1100. Eleven hundred Sabans divided up into families with one person grocery shopping. There is an elderly population here that is cared for by younger family members. I rarely see the elderly in the stores. You'd have to subtract them.

If I was to guess I would say that no more than 400 or so "locals" need to shop at any one time.

300 or so students need to shop at any one time. It should be about a 1:1 ratio, give or take a bit.

I don't think there is any conspiracy but it certainly was funny to read about it.

[gianefiasco]

im going to have to guess that the locals go shopping between the hours of say...8 am and 3 pm WHEN EVERYONE IS ON CAMPUS

LOLZ

Ive seen plenty locals shopping so this is kinda ridiculous although funny conspiracy theory.

[darkmansaad]

this thread has achieved its goal. it has now COMPLETELY PROVED THAT THERE ARE NO ADMISSIONS STANDARDS IF WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT LOCALS PAYING FOR GROCERIES.

[lekker]

this thread has achieved its goal. it has now COMPLETELY PROVED THAT THERE ARE NO ADMISSIONS STANDARDS IF WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT LOCALS PAYING FOR GROCERIES.

lol...just lol:p
...wait a sec...:confused:

[gianefiasco]

QUOTED FROM " wcb22 '.

keep in mind, there are caribbean schools that want these stats:

BP 90-120/60-80
Pulse: >40
Temp: >95

Undergrad GPA < 2.8, GPA > 3.2 not welcome (as you will most likely transfer)

Credit score > 650

Gullibility > 4 (high = 5, medium high = 4, medium = 3, medium low = 2, low = 1), 3 and under are not welcome, will most likely hold your transcripts at ransom until never threaten to transfer again.

you think i'm joking, don't you?
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completely agree with him.

[yashar1981]

I wish somebody had told me that i needed to clear the American Custom to enter Saba, That is my biggest worry!

[JeebusLives]

sir your luggage is vibrating.

[morefunmd]

This is off topic, just thought I would add it in though. DO you know one of the reasons why food is so expensive on the island? Becuase many of the locals dont pay for food. Have you ever noticed that when you are in the grocery store, there are never really any locals there? Thats because they get their food delivered to them, and they dont pay for it. But saba students sure will.


Have you seen the movie "Coming to America, by Edddie Murphy?" I did...5X. It was not my favorite though...I saw the "Why pay more for food when you don't have to?" 10X.:shock:

[bigkap87]

Have you seen the movie "Coming to America, by Edddie Murphy?" I did...5X. It was not my favorite though...I saw the "Why pay more for food when you don't have to?" 10X.:shock:

because we are all African Royalty? LOL

[morefunmd]

because we are all African Royalty? LOL


Dude, my comment was for fun only...do not try it at home!!!!!

although:confused: in one of his movies, Eddie Murphy's character goes and claims that whites don't pay for the newspaper..it is free for whites he says...:roll::roll::roll:

back to my cave....

[gianefiasco]

I wish somebody had told me that i needed to clear the American Custom to enter Saba, That is my biggest worry!


"the american custom" LOL

*warning* stay away from this man near airports and american "custom" !!

[Magen-MD]

Hi guys,

Well, well, well! We all know very well that there is more to getting into med-school than the GPA myth.

In both US and Canada, I have had children of neighbours or some friends with GPAs 3.8 and above , yet they have never been admited into medical school in Canada or other schools in US. So, what's this GPA fuss about? I would say, some universities are smarter than others, in that they do not get a hook on the so called GPA. They take a look at how a student has performed in courses relevant to the field of study she/he intends to pursue. So, one may have a 2.5 GPA overall. And a 3.5 gpa in courses that matter to the study of medicine, for example, with lots of clinical experience and more. Such a student is likely to perform better than the one with a high gpa in courses that are not even relevant to medicine at all or with nothing relevant to medicine. This is why some students after discovering that medicine is not for them, they leave and yet perform very well in other fields like archtecture, Law, computer sciences etc.

The people doing admissions in med-schools are getting smarter and smarter and they do look beyond the so called gpa or rather they look for "the Performer's GPA" not just some gpa. Medical schools look for performance that goes beyond the gpa which might have been created by some social engineers in academia.

Guys, welcome to medicine.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[JeebusLives]

but if the person with a 3.8 overall was a science major they probably did extrememly well in those medicine pertinent science classes since that was the bulk of their course work.

[Canadaguy]

LOL good show.

TO all other repliers:

Canadaguy: I have the exact opposite inofrmation from people ive talked to. ANYONE I know who has applied has gotten accepted, ,maybe not to the semester they want, but always accepted. They were all university graduates with pulse and tuition payments! (lol) Im thinking there must have been SERIOUS problems with these peoples applications to not get accepted. I mean this is a business , the class size varies hugely and i see no reason for them not to accept almost anyone as its allup to the student (even the ones with stellar stats) once they get here. And I am sure they ALL got offers to MUA as thats the SABA overflow since there is limited room here (which is about to change with new dorms ad new buildings)


If Saba already accepts every applicant I find it very strange that they are building all of these new classrooms. Who are they going to put in them if they are only receiving 70 or so applications per semester? This goes back to my point that Saba obviously receives more applications than there are spaces.

While I do agree that class sizes vary, I think that has more to do with people accepting offers of admission and then deciding not to attend at the last minute. While US and Canadian schools can always fill those positions at a minutes notice, I'm not sure it is as easy for Saba to call up people and say: "classes start tomorrow, can you pack up your worldly possessions, book a flight, say goodbye to your family and be on the island for orientation tomorrow?"

Anyway, that's just my opinion...

[gianefiasco]

If Saba already accepts every applicant I find it very strange that they are building all of these new classrooms. Who are they going to put in them if they are only receiving 70 or so applications per semester? This goes back to my point that Saba obviously receives more applications than there are spaces.

While I do agree that class sizes vary, I think that has more to do with people accepting offers of admission and then deciding not to attend at the last minute. While US and Canadian schools can always fill those positions at a minutes notice, I'm not sure it is as easy for Saba to call up people and say: "classes start tomorrow, can you pack up your worldly possessions, book a flight, say goodbye to your family and be on the island for orientation tomorrow?"

Anyway, that's just my opinion...

SABA probably does recieve more applications then it accepts, or as you stated it may accept them and its the applicant who rejects ( for instance to go to a Canadian Med. School). My central point is not changed by the addition of a new building in fact it supports it. SABA will accept almost anyone who applies as it stands right now because of several reasons (all hypothetical of course because i Dont know the guys who own the place lol):
1) HUGE attrition rate. Don't believe its high? well my class started with around 67 in 1st semester and in 4th we are at 50 of our original class ( not counting added students who failed and joined us).
2) Its a business.

But even so you do make a case. However, once the new building's are finished its gonna be pretty hard to argue that everyone who applies does not get accepted.