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Beebopash
05-01-2007, 03:23 AM
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UFTim
05-01-2007, 08:27 AM
Supposedly, all of the clinicals are "green" in the UK for us. I know of a few friends that are going there for rotations. A lot of people have very positive feedback saying they learn a ton, and are able to do a lot in the UK's socialized medicine since here we'd get sued performing surgery on our 3rd day of a surg clerkship where there students are encouraged to cut. I know I want to practice here in the US, so I really want to get all my clinical training in the US. I think the UK would be a great experiene, and may even train me better, but it's my opinion that I would do better if I trained in the same system of medicine that I'll be working for the rest of my life.

cee
05-01-2007, 08:07 PM
Supposedly, all of the clinicals are "green" in the UK for us. I know of a few friends that are going there for rotations. A lot of people have very positive feedback saying they learn a ton, and are able to do a lot in the UK's socialized medicine since here we'd get sued performing surgery on our 3rd day of a surg clerkship where there students are encouraged to cut. I know I want to practice here in the US, so I really want to get all my clinical training in the US. I think the UK would be a great experiene, and may even train me better, but it's my opinion that I would do better if I trained in the same system of medicine that I'll be working for the rest of my life.

is it usually pretty difficult to get one of these core rotation spots?

UFTim
05-02-2007, 07:44 AM
is it usually pretty difficult to get one of these core rotation spots?

I haven't been placed in a regular rotation spot yet, but a friend got placed before me starting in 2 weeks in the UK, so...not too sure if that means the UK is easier or the spots were available at this time. They say sometimes you get lucky and get good spots. It's all about timing, and what's available when you apply for rotations.

cee
05-02-2007, 05:32 PM
I haven't been placed in a regular rotation spot yet, but a friend got placed before me starting in 2 weeks in the UK, so...not too sure if that means the UK is easier or the spots were available at this time. They say sometimes you get lucky and get good spots. It's all about timing, and what's available when you apply for rotations.

i know its too early, considering i havent started SMU yet, but i plan on doing cores in the UK to avoid any confusion of green vs. non-green cores. however, i am afraid that i might not get placed into one. if someone can chime in, please do so.. its one of the criteria i am using to pick which school to attend.

Beebopash
05-03-2007, 05:24 PM
I actully called SMU today, talked to the clinical department and they said it is possible to organise all your cores in uk and the indication i got was that they are green roattions. what i am baffled about is why no one comes to uk for rotation? Is it mainly the cost? or are there any problem with uk rotations ?

MD777
05-03-2007, 05:31 PM
go for it if you can...as you are young now...it is the time to go to TASTE the life...

i am sure that there is NO problem to come back to US to practice...as many have done so already. i have traveled so much in Europe, when i used to work for US corporate.

i also have heard the medical training is awesome. i personally am considering this route, as long as i can mange my children's education arrangements, my business in US, etc. at this age of my life, i would go for this OPPORTUNITY right away.

I actully called SMU today, talked to the clinical department and they said it is possible to organise all your cores in uk and the indication i got was that they are green roattions. what i am baffled about is why no one comes to uk for rotation? Is it mainly the cost? or are there any problem with uk rotations ?

UFTim
05-04-2007, 08:11 AM
I actully called SMU today, talked to the clinical department and they said it is possible to organise all your cores in uk and the indication i got was that they are green roattions. what i am baffled about is why no one comes to uk for rotation? Is it mainly the cost? or are there any problem with uk rotations ?

Yes, they are equivalent to green, and everyone says they're excellent rotations. Students do go to these rotations, and the ones I talk to say they're really good. Like we've discussed, it has to do with a person's preference.

acetre
05-04-2007, 01:36 PM
Just finished in the UK and must say it was a great academic experience. The Preceptors are very keen on teaching, however, some of what you lear is going to have to be on your own. The reason what some people opt out of going to the UK is because some don't like the Idea of being away from family and friends for a while. Also, While the UK is a Self-Proclaimed 1st World country, the UK is not nearly the same as the US in terms of convenience and sometimes accessibility to certain things we enjoy in the States. But By the the same token, there are somethings I experienced in the UK that I would love to have here in the US.

In terms of rotations, They are lined up for you back to back without any gaps, so as to be done over there in 10 months exactly. Plus, a bit of stability (being able to stay in one place) is not necessarily a bad thing. It beats moving around every 6 months or so. Also, the bus service in the UK was so great that I never had a need to buy a car, so getting around is definitely a cakewalk.---acetre

cee
05-05-2007, 10:41 AM
Just finished in the UK and must say it was a great academic experience. The Preceptors are very keen on teaching, however, some of what you lear is going to have to be on your own. The reason what some people opt out of going to the UK is because some don't like the Idea of being away from family and friends for a while. Also, While the UK is a Self-Proclaimed 1st World country, the UK is not nearly the same as the US in terms of convenience and sometimes accessibility to certain things we enjoy in the States. But By the the same token, there are somethings I experienced in the UK that I would love to have here in the US.

In terms of rotations, They are lined up for you back to back without any gaps, so as to be done over there in 10 months exactly. Plus, a bit of stability (being able to stay in one place) is not necessarily a bad thing. It beats moving around every 6 months or so. Also, the bus service in the UK was so great that I never had a need to buy a car, so getting around is definitely a cakewalk.---acetre

are these UK rotations in high demand? like, is there a long line in order to get the UK rotations (e.g.- having to wait for a spot to open up)?

acetre
05-05-2007, 08:57 PM
there is a spot opening up every semester cycle.--acetre

NessyIMG
05-13-2007, 05:00 AM
Has anybody done clinicals in the UK recently? How are the living conditions? Do you know if they have cheeky burger over there?