GAYS on SABA?

[maserati]

Is SABA an open-minded place where different sexual orientations are accepted? Are there gays on the island and how are they treated?
I'd love to go to SABA but wouldn't want to get strapped onto a goat and tossed over the cliff for being who I am :-P


Feel free to chat about this.

[maserati]

**** AND NO, RESPONDING TO THIS THREAD DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU GAY ****

Let's just clear that up for those who're scared about being labelled.

Whatever you are, whoever you are - it's a discussion place.

Please help me by contributing. THANKS

[tpw2k]

there was a guy, i believe who's nickname is bigguy who is also gay and completed his basic sciences on the island without any problems. I believe Saba is one of the few caribbeans islands that are open to gays. You should have no problem, maybe don't openly parade it though just to be on the safe side.

[TMM]

i guess as long as u dont hit on other guys ... no one has a reason to complain

[maserati]

I feel horrible that I've always taken my freedom/rights for granted, here in a very liberal Canadian city.

Even though you said that it's "ok" and bigguy survived " without any problems " ... just the slightest thought of discrimination can seem like a huge threat 'cause it's a foreign island. ( I do not parade and flaunt my sexual preference around but what if this topic surfaces publically ... )

tpw2k, thanks for responding.

[maserati]

HOW ABOUT DISCRIMINATION ( in general : including religious, ethnic, sexual preference ... etc )

[TMM]

Just to be honest with you, I wouldn't feel comfortable having a gay friend. I'm pretty sure a lot of guys would agree with me.

I don't really feel like explaining why, but that's how I feel.

[sweetpeapotts]

HOW ABOUT DISCRIMINATION ( in general : including religious, ethnic, sexual preference ... etc )



well, if you have NEVER experienced any type of discrimination, then you may encounter it, if not on Saba then just living the rest of your life.

[jameslynton]

Just to be honest with you, I wouldn't feel comfortable having a gay friend. I'm pretty sure a lot of guys would agree with me.

I don't really feel like explaining why, but that's how I feel.Then wait till you get in a US hospital - many gays work in them. Part of life is learning to deal with people who are different than you are and accept them for the good person they are.

[maserati]

well, if you have NEVER experienced any type of discrimination, then you may encounter it, if not on Saba then just living the rest of your life.

I have experienced discrimination.
I enjoy a great deal of freedom/rights in my city but it does not mean that
I have "NEVER" experienced discrimination.

And I agree with you in that one will unavoidably encounter discrimination anywhere/time in life. However, if this leads to safety issues or if it impedes with one's quality of life then the least we can do about it is to avoid it ( education and communication would be best ).

Thanks for your input sweetpeapotts.

[sweetpeapotts]

I have experienced discrimination.
I enjoy a great deal of freedom/rights in my city but it does not mean that
I have "NEVER" experienced discrimination.

And I agree with you in that one will unavoidably encounter discrimination anywhere/time in life. However, if this leads to safety issues or if it impedes with one's quality of life then the least we can do about it is to avoid it ( education and communication would be best ).

Thanks for your input sweetpeapotts.

You will be surprised at how naive some of the students at Saba are, and I am not saying that as an insult. It would not surprise me if some NEVER experienced discrimination. And I totally agree, you should never feel threated. I think you will be safe, I would be very dissappointed if you weren't.

[sweetpeapotts]

And....to Answer Your Question:
There Are Gay People Who Live On Saba As Well As Attend School There.

[sheikh1]

What the.......

[maserati]

What the.......


Can you please elaborate the "what the ...... " that you posted?

[maserati]

why is it that so many people have read this thread since it was created this morning ... but only 13 posts? ... and half of that are mine!

[LaCatin]

If you are looking for discrimination of any kind, then I'm sure that you'll find it. I keep my sex life private, as do my friends of all orientations. In the US,except maybe for large cities, "don't ask , don't tell" is pretty popular. Most of us just don't want to hear about your sex life or preferences either. Although I'm pretty sure that I have been discriminated against because I'm short....

[McGillGrad]

You will have no problem if you are gay.

You will have serious problems if you act like a flamer or queen in the Caribbean.

Gay people are just like ever other group. There are some that make it obvious and then there are ones that would have to tell you for you to know.

I worked out at a gym where there were a lot of gay 'vultures' that followed straight guys around the locker room and generally creeped me out. I told my training partner (of 2 years) about them and he laughed and agreed. Then he said that those guys make gay guys like him look bad. Up until that day I never would have guessed he was gay.

[DocSquatch]

I'm a gay 4th semester student, very open, and I've never experienced any sort of discrimination except for a few comments and even those were said out of ignorance rather than hate.

I have many friends in my class with no problems.

There are many other gay students and as a whole they are accepted and treated no differently than any other medical student.

A few of the professors are gay as well.

All of the professors and administration are extremely proffesional and I have never felt any sort of discrimination on Saba.

There are several LGBT locals and they're very well accepted and a part of the community.

Should you have any further questions feel free to PM me.

[TMM]

Then wait till you get in a US hospital - many gays work in them. Part of life is learning to deal with people who are different than you are and accept them for the good person they are.


of course I could accept a person if they were gay, but that doesn't mean I have to become their friend. I find it hard not to accept most people, everyone is unique.

[McGillGrad]

of course I could accept a person if they were gay, but that doesn't mean I have to become their friend. I find it hard not to accept most people, everyone is unique.

You will never know most people are gay even if they are your best friend. Unless of course, they act like Andy ****.

[medschool22]

i guess as long as u dont hit on other guys ... no one has a reason to complain

are you really that insecure with your sexuality that you couldn't take a "guy" hitting on you? :D:shock::D

[DocSquatch]

You will never know most people are gay even if they are your best friend. Unless of course, they act like Andy ****.

That's just because Andy is Canadian.

Canadians are notoriously gay acting.

Prior to Saba I didn't have a lot of exposure to Canucks. But since Saba has a serious Canadian infestation I've been inundated with them.

My first impression of almost every Canadian I met on Saba was that they must be gay... turns out I'm only right ~half the time.

BTW I was joking here. No insult intended to anyone.

[tpw2k]

lol doc, coming from san francisco, I wouldn't talk.

Most canadians aren't gay but the ones that are are easy to spot.

[jameslynton]

The general rule of thumb on the islands - Grenada and Caymans are very gay unfriendly. The Dutch islands are generally cool with it. There have been gay bashings on St Martin.

Like McGillGrad said - you may have a good friend or work partner and never know they are gay. It is best unless you are in a "Safe Place" to not be over the top with it. Be aware what is ok and accepted in a large North America cities like Toronto, New York, Atlanta and San Francisco - but will get busted in the islands. So be careful.

Also if anyone is think of insulting or flaming anybody - there will not be warning PM's on this thread.

[playarf]

That's just because Andy is Canadian.

Canadians are notoriously gay acting.

Prior to Saba I didn't have a lot of exposure to Canucks. But since Saba has a serious Canadian infestation I've been inundated with them.

My first impression of almost every Canadian I met on Saba was that they must be gay... turns out I'm only right ~half the time.

I have removed this post ONLY because I do not want to prolong this. However, I personally believe that this particular moderator's judgment is very questionable, especially given that he did not take into account the context of discussion.

cheers

[rdecastro]

Yawn.

Here is what I hope is a very typical response to the 'news' that someone is gay - certainly mine.

Oh? OK. lets get back to studying (or work).


If anyone has difficulty working with, around, or for, or learning from, people who are gay (or different in any other way from your ideal) then medicine, and Saba, is not for you.


That doesn't just apply to sexual orientation, either.

[swimguy23]

editing to remove insult to anyone.....

[sheikh1]

Can you please elaborate the "what the ...... " that you posted?
I cant complete the whole thing.....do to TOS violation...;)

[DocSquatch]

Yawn.

Here is what I hope is a very typical response to the 'news' that someone is gay - certainly mine.

Oh? OK. lets get back to studying (or work).


If anyone has difficulty working with, around, or for, or learning from, people who are gay (or different in any other way from your ideal) then medicine, and Saba, is not for you.


That doesn't just apply to sexual orientation, either.

Well said. Back to work.

[sheikh1]

Edited ..............

[sweetpeapotts]

you know, you who are leaving the "what the.." and the "back to work/studying..." are being insensitive and i hope that as future physicians you realize that to PEOPLE (who may be your patients) these topics are important and your patients may not appreciate such insensitivity. i am sure if you searched the forum you would see "are there any Jews on saba" etc...but maserati simply asked about a gay community and he/she gets replies such as "what the...." and "back to work". what someone identifies themselves as is important and should not be made trivial.

[maserati]

you know, you who are leaving the "what the.." and the "back to work/studying..." are being insensitive and i hope that as future physicians you realize that to PEOPLE (who may be your patients) these topics are important and your patients may not appreciate such insensitivity. i am sure if you searched the forum you would see "are there any Jews on saba" etc...but maserati simply asked about a gay community and he/she gets replies such as "what the...." and "back to work". what someone identifies themselves as is important and should not be made trivial.


Well said sweetpeapotts.

I recognize the fact that people have different views however I also firmly believe that comments should be properly expressed, with a "better understanding" as the ultimate goal and not to be tossed around insensitively ( as you've said ).

It is worth noting that there are students out there, aiming to medically assist people, don't recognize/celebrate diversity as an important health determinant but instead they discourage it.

I am not pro-dancing-queer-in-your-face
but I am pro-communication/understanding.

I appreciate everyone's input - the directness and honesty.
It has helped to prep me for SABA.

Having said that, I believe that this thread should come to an end because my question has been answered.

However, if people feel like discussing this further, we should start a new thread with a different / more general title that emcompasses diversity/discrimination/health as a whole.

Thanks!
Maserati

[rdecastro]

you know, you who are leaving the "what the.." and the "back to work/studying..." are being insensitive and i hope that as future physicians you realize that to PEOPLE (who may be your patients) these topics are important and your patients may not appreciate such insensitivity. i am sure if you searched the forum you would see "are there any Jews on saba" etc...but maserati simply asked about a gay community and he/she gets replies such as "what the...." and "back to work". what someone identifies themselves as is important and should not be made trivial.

I disagree. I said back to work, because quite simply, I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONES SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS. I didn't even care when I was in the Military - as Barry Goldwater said, "I don't care if they are straight, I just care that they can shoot straight".

It simply doesn't interest or concern me - except to the extent it might impact on treatment of a patient. I guess that does make me insensitive - as in I simply am not at all sensitive to them, any more or less than anyone else here. In other words, I treat them just like I treat everyone else.

I don't (knowingly) profess my sexual orientation too much. I don't particularly think it's important, one way or another, except between me and my spouse. Quite simply, it's not something that needs to be discussed in public, I think, their orientation any more or less than mine. As I expect them to be respectful and cognizant of me, I am of them.

People who are gay are about as different, or interesting, to me as people from Kentucky, or New York, or anywhere else are, or have green eyes or red hair. Definitely a "oh, thats interesting - time to get back to work" moment. Not much more, or less. Everything about someone's life doesn't need to be on display for the entire world, the relationship I have with my spouse is the business of only the two of us, and such friends and family as we invite to share.

I neither attempt to punish, or celebrate diversity beyond that. As Dr. King said in his famous speech (which I heard live, on the radio), it's more about the content of someone's character than any visible display. The gays I have known at SUSoM have had uniformly good character,I think, and will make fine physicians whom I would not mind treating my family or me.

Do I think that some people behave inappropriately in public? Absolutely. However, that is not due to their sexual orientation, genetic disposition, or locale of birth. Some people just behave badly - not that I've noticed any gay people on Saba who have, btw.

And Maserati: If you want a pretty much flaming straight old retired military guy to talk to, look me up. I'll give you exactly as good or bad advice as I'd give anyone else. Heck, I'll even buy you a coke while we talk about it.

[sweetpeapotts]

I disagree. I said back to work, because quite simply, I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONES SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS. I didn't even care when I was in the Military - as Barry Goldwater said, "I don't care if they are straight, I just care that they can shoot straight".

It simply doesn't interest or concern me - except to the extent it might impact on treatment of a patient. I guess that does make me insensitive - as in I simply am not at all sensitive to them, any more or less than anyone else here. In other words, I treat them just like I treat everyone else.

I don't (knowingly) profess my sexual orientation too much. I don't particularly think it's important, one way or another, except between me and my spouse. Quite simply, it's not something that needs to be discussed in public, I think, their orientation any more or less than mine. As I expect them to be respectful and cognizant of me, I am of them.

People who are gay are about as different, or interesting, to me as people from Kentucky, or New York, or anywhere else are, or have green eyes or red hair. Definitely a "oh, thats interesting - time to get back to work" moment. Not much more, or less. Everything about someone's life doesn't need to be on display for the entire world, the relationship I have with my spouse is the business of only the two of us, and such friends and family as we invite to share.

I neither attempt to punish, or celebrate diversity beyond that. As Dr. King said in his famous speech (which I heard live, on the radio), it's more about the content of someone's character than any visible display. The gays I have known at SUSoM have had uniformly good character,I think, and will make fine physicians whom I would not mind treating my family or me.

Do I think that some people behave inappropriately in public? Absolutely. However, that is not due to their sexual orientation, genetic disposition, or locale of birth. Some people just behave badly - not that I've noticed any gay people on Saba who have, btw.

And Maserati: If you want a pretty much flaming straight old retired military guy to talk to, look me up. I'll give you exactly as good or bad advice as I'd give anyone else. Heck, I'll even buy you a coke while we talk about it.


Well, RDecastro, I feel that ONE should CARE what people identify themselves with....and should take is seriously because when you are "practicing" and someone shares things like their sexual orientation with you you may not want to tell them that we should "get back to work"

[maserati]

I disagree. I said back to work, because quite simply, I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONES SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS. I didn't even care when I was in the Military - as Barry Goldwater said, "I don't care if they are straight, I just care that they can shoot straight".

It simply doesn't interest or concern me - except to the extent it might impact on treatment of a patient. I guess that does make me insensitive - as in I simply am not at all sensitive to them, any more or less than anyone else here. In other words, I treat them just like I treat everyone else.

I don't (knowingly) profess my sexual orientation too much. I don't particularly think it's important, one way or another, except between me and my spouse. Quite simply, it's not something that needs to be discussed in public, I think, their orientation any more or less than mine. As I expect them to be respectful and cognizant of me, I am of them.

People who are gay are about as different, or interesting, to me as people from Kentucky, or New York, or anywhere else are, or have green eyes or red hair. Definitely a "oh, thats interesting - time to get back to work" moment. Not much more, or less. Everything about someone's life doesn't need to be on display for the entire world, the relationship I have with my spouse is the business of only the two of us, and such friends and family as we invite to share.

I neither attempt to punish, or celebrate diversity beyond that. As Dr. King said in his famous speech (which I heard live, on the radio), it's more about the content of someone's character than any visible display. The gays I have known at SUSoM have had uniformly good character,I think, and will make fine physicians whom I would not mind treating my family or me.

Do I think that some people behave inappropriately in public? Absolutely. However, that is not due to their sexual orientation, genetic disposition, or locale of birth. Some people just behave badly - not that I've noticed any gay people on Saba who have, btw.

And Maserati: If you want a pretty much flaming straight old retired military guy to talk to, look me up. I'll give you exactly as good or bad advice as I'd give anyone else. Heck, I'll even buy you a coke while we talk about it.

RDECASTRO -

I wan's talking about YOU .
I agreed with sweetpea on what she had (wisely) said about proper attitude but MY COMMENTS WEREN"T DIRECTED AT YOU. In fact I enjoyed reading your posting.

In addition, I have received numerous private SABA-messages and a big chunk of my comments here have been directed at those.

I am not asking people for their views only to shut them down.
I have not pointed fingers at anyone, I remained neutral and stating things as "worth noting" and not as "that is wrong". In the meanwhile, I encourage communication which I'm sure we can all agree upon.

I apologize if you thought that I was attacking you, but I was not, and I thank you for comments.

Cheers

[maserati]

SWEETPEA / RDECASTRO

- it is obvious that you two are both saying the same thing "respect + do not tolerate discrimination" but you guys are simply taking two different paths to that conclusion.

... I have a lot of respect for what BOTH of you have said and frankly ... I am scared to go into med school now because you guys ooze such intelligence!!! Talk about feeling stupid amongst smart people! The way you guys express your thoughts are professionally intimidating ;)

You rock!

I hope that we keep in touch in the future.

Cheers:D

[tpw2k]

masareti, did you get accepted already? if so, what term you in for?

[stephew]

ok kids, here goes. the original poster posted a legit question. if you cant contribute to it in a useful way, dont post. Further if you are the sort of person who wants to dissect the language used of legitimate posters, or analyze the sociology of the perceptions o of homosexuality with modern mores, don't. stick to the orginal topic. ALL tos violations will be dinged here, no nice pm from hereon in.

[aspiringmedstudent]

Maybe this post has been beaten to death, but I just want to say....

I think Saba is a gay friendly island, and I think the school definitely is as well. For the most part, I think everyone is very accepting. In fact, I have seen a lot of Saba students open up - which is always a beautiful thing :)

I have a handful of gay friends at school and as far as I know they have never had any problems. The GLBSA is also active on campus - and the gatherings are a fun time.

I have heard of problems on St. Maarten, unfortunately - but those are stories I have heard from locals. I would just suggest that if you're spending a significant amount of time in St. Maarten, just be cautious and go out with a good group of people.

I hope you find the the environment you're looking for in every way - but I think Saba is a very warm and accepting community, personally :)

[stephew]

are you really that insecure with your sexuality that you couldn't take a "guy" hitting on you? :D:shock::D

are you really that insecure with your sexuality that you couldn't take a "guy" hitting on you? :D:shock::D

TMM expressed a view you may not agree with, but he did it honestly and without denegrating anyone or any group. mocking someone is not permitted on vmd.

[medschool22]

TMM expressed a view you may not agree with, but he did it honestly and without denegrating anyone or any group. mocking someone is not permitted on vmd.

it obviously wasn't meant to be taken seriously, hence the smiley's

apologies to TMM

[stephew]

ok no prob. thanks for clarifying.

[maserati]

The moderators are really on top of things!
Authority well respected.

[stephew]

we try. its supposed to be a friendly useful site.

[rdecastro]

Well, RDecastro, I feel that ONE should CARE what people identify themselves with....and should take is seriously because when you are "practicing" and someone shares things like their sexual orientation with you you may not want to tell them that we should "get back to work"


Too bad you didn't actually read my post. I said in the second paragraph that their orientation interests me only as far as it impacts the treatment they receive...much the same as their prior medical history, history of surgery, etc is important.

Anything else is unimportant. Do you think that fawning over someone's sexual orientation, making a big deal about it, treating it as anything other than a part of their social history is important? It's not.

If a patient tells me that they're straight or gay during an exam, thats just one more piece of the puzzle of figuring out what is wrong with them and what needs to be done. And neither answer deserves more of a comment from me than the other.

[sweetpeapotts]

Too bad you didn't actually read my post. I said in the second paragraph that their orientation interests me only as far as it impacts the treatment they receive...much the same as their prior medical history, history of surgery, etc is important.

Anything else is unimportant. Do you think that fawning over someone's sexual orientation, making a big deal about it, treating it as anything other than a part of their social history is important? It's not.

If a patient tells me that they're straight or gay during an exam, thats just one more piece of the puzzle of figuring out what is wrong with them and what needs to be done. And neither answer deserves more of a comment from me than the other.

well, i would think that sexual orientation to the patient is a little more imporant than "history of surgery" and "medical history". i am not posting on this anymore, i just felt that you and others were insensitive and maybe someone wanted to discuss it...and find out information about where he will be living...and yes, i think that somethings that are really important to people should be "fawned over"...

[playarf]

well, i would think that sexual orientation to the patient is a little more imporant than "history of surgery" and "medical history". i am not posting on this anymore, i just felt that you and others were insensitive and maybe someone wanted to discuss it...and find out information about where he will be living...and yes, i think that somethings that are really important to people should be "fawned over"...
ummmm, no one has been insensitive so far.

From your posts, I think YOU are being OVER-sensitive.

[sweetpeapotts]

ummmm, no one has been insensitive so far.

From your posts, I think YOU are being OVER-sensitive.

perhaps...

[rdecastro]

well, i would think that sexual orientation to the patient is a little more imporant than "history of surgery" and "medical history". i am not posting on this anymore, i just felt that you and others were insensitive and maybe someone wanted to discuss it...and find out information about where he will be living...and yes, i think that somethings that are really important to people should be "fawned over"...


OK, so you're taking a history on a patient (which, btw, includes things like their medical history, surgical history, and yes, sexual orientation) and you get to the orientation part. Just how would you react to someone saying they're gay?

a) "Oooh, thats so nice/different/brave/whatever!"
b) "OK", and then you branch off and ask some related questions to the type of sexual behavior they engage in, how long they have been engaging in it, if they feel unsafe with their partner, and a number of other questions.


The answer is b. In 4th semester when you will be taught this, in PD.

Fawning over a gay person is treating them differently than everyone you don't fawn over. I think that most people just want to be treated with respect, and not much differently than anyone else. To do anything else is to treat them as different, and most people don't want that.

The ones that do are engaging in narcissistic behavior, and unless you go into psychiatry, you won't have time to enable them.

[stephew]

ok lets make it easy for you and for me. stay on the topic of the original post or this will be closed and/or users will be given infraction.

[chancy]

just to reply to TMM,
thank you for your honesty in saying that you wouldn't feel comfortable having a gay friend...but, just to mention the good side of it:

having a diverse group of friends, no matter what their backround is, is really fun and interesting!
and as a doctor we must all encounter many many "types" of people. why not be open to all of them and appreciate them for who they are?

just open your mind a little...you may find that your brain goo will not oozing out!!

good friends are hard to come by

[sheikh1]

Oops wrong posting sorry.....

[sweetpeapotts]

OK, so you're taking a history on a patient (which, btw, includes things like their medical history, surgical history, and yes, sexual orientation) and you get to the orientation part. Just how would you react to someone saying they're gay?

a) "Oooh, thats so nice/different/brave/whatever!"
b) "OK", and then you branch off and ask some related questions to the type of sexual behavior they engage in, how long they have been engaging in it, if they feel unsafe with their partner, and a number of other questions.


The answer is b. In 4th semester when you will be taught this, in PD.

Fawning over a gay person is treating them differently than everyone you don't fawn over. I think that most people just want to be treated with respect, and not much differently than anyone else. To do anything else is to treat them as different, and most people don't want that.

The ones that do are engaging in narcissistic behavior, and unless you go into psychiatry, you won't have time to enable them.

we obviously are not going to agree.

[stephew]

one last warning. stick to the original topic. further off topic posts will receive infraction. no more warnings first.

[Bander]

i have heard that people on st martin have beaten gay people. i also heard that a gay cruise ship docked in nevis, but when it was discovered that it was a gay ship they made them leave

[maserati]

i have heard that people on st martin have beaten gay people. i also heard that a gay cruise ship docked in nevis, but when it was discovered that it was a gay ship they made them leave

do they just beat anyone who's gay or different even if they don't actively bother them?

that's pretty bad ...

[Bander]

do they just beat anyone who's gay or different even if they don't actively bother them?

that's pretty bad ...

to be honest i don't really know. in nevis, the locals seem to hate all the students anyways, so it doesn't really matter if you are gay or not!

[TMM]

just to reply to TMM,
thank you for your honesty in saying that you wouldn't feel comfortable having a gay friend...but, just to mention the good side of it:

having a diverse group of friends, no matter what their backround is, is really fun and interesting!
and as a doctor we must all encounter many many "types" of people. why not be open to all of them and appreciate them for who they are?

just open your mind a little...you may find that your brain goo will not oozing out!!

good friends are hard to come by

lol, i shouldve kept my opinion to myself ... thats just me. I respect people who respect me, and i do appreciate people for who they are. I wouldn't give a 2nd thought to helping someone because of their sexual orientation (what kind of MD would I be?). But for me there is a difference between a friend and an acquaintance ... in all honesty I don't feel like I have to explain myself on a forum, I am who I am ... sorry if this went a bit off topic.

[maserati]

lol, i shouldve kept my opinion to myself ... thats just me. I respect people who respect me, and i do appreciate people for who they are. I wouldn't give a 2nd thought to helping someone because of their sexual orientation (what kind of MD would I be?). But for me there is a difference between a friend and an acquaintance ... in all honesty I don't feel like I have to explain myself on a forum, I am who I am ... sorry if this went a bit off topic.

It's ok TMM, I started out this thread saying that it's just a open discussion and we appreciate your honesty.

[stephew]

thanks to masarati and TMM for being cool over a challenging topic. respect like that probably makes more difference in shaping views that anything.

[sdcali]

My partner and I both attend SUSOM. We have had no problems on campus or around the island. We are "out" at school as well as around the island. I know the school supports us. It was clearly stated to us that they would not tolerate any discrimination. Many of the local stores, tourism, etc are owned and run by gay men/lesbians. Many gay cruises also come through Saba. I find it to be a friendly island. As always there are people that have issues with your sexual orientation, but we do not feel our lives are endanger!

If you have any specific questions or would like to know more, please feel free to PM me!

Take care!

[speed2007]

Edit!!!!!!

[sheikh1]

Wow...........

[rokshana]

its disgusting to hear that EVEN on saba there are homosexuals...can't u guys for once stay in ur own corners and not live with the STRAIGHT people...

honestly...what the heck were they thinking allowing homosexuals on the island..i say we send them back with the Gay cruise they came on...

all i gotta say..whoever u are..stay away from me..DISGUSTINGGGGGG...

umm... you don't think that the saba officals READ these threads....and how many people do you think they are interviewing tomorrow?

[tpw2k]

its disgusting to hear that EVEN on saba there are homosexuals...can't u guys for once stay in ur own corners and not live with the STRAIGHT people...

honestly...what the heck were they thinking allowing homosexuals on the island..i say we send them back with the Gay cruise they came on...

all i gotta say..whoever u are..stay away from me..DISGUSTINGGGGGG...

LOL, he's got an interview tomorrow! If they have read your retarded comments, expect to get owned in the interview. With your narrow-mindedness, I hope you get rejected. I don't mind gay people as long as they don't parade their business in everyone's face. If they mind their own business, so should you. Have fun at your interview...

[speed2007]

Just a note: that was not ME guys. My friend was on my laptop going through the forum and he happened to post that. I apologize if his comments were offensive to anyone.

I wish I could go back and edit his post but it has been quoted a few times. Either way, I've edited it.

Sorry about that. Won't happen again.

Enjoy your summer!!

[tpw2k]

If it wasn't you, I retract what I said, good luck with your interview tomorrow :)

[maserati]

Just a note: that was not ME guys. My friend was on my laptop going through the forum and he happened to post that. I apologize if his comments were offensive to anyone.

I wish I could go back and edit his post but it has been quoted a few times. Either way, I've edited it.

Sorry about that. Won't happen again.

Enjoy your summer!!



It's unfortunate that you associate yourself with this friend who thinks that posting offensive comments like that to an actual serious and personal question is funny. That says a lot about you as well.