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senz_asian
04-21-2007, 11:21 AM
we got words from one of our deans that Equinox (which owns SMU) has bought out SABA ... now we are brothers :D

stateofequilibrium
04-21-2007, 11:55 AM
So what will this do with Cali-Approval?

sheikh1
04-21-2007, 12:23 PM
This will mean SMU, MUA, and SABA will all be cali.....approved.....Please note this is not official....

drjohnwebb
04-21-2007, 01:46 PM
YEah... they could just give us all degrees and transcripts wtih SABA's name on it...LOL

got milk?
04-21-2007, 02:19 PM
yeah right..........

DRJJ1
04-21-2007, 02:30 PM
yeah right..........


new name

st mattsa has to get cali approval now or there is something
wrong with cali members for not approving them..if these students
are passing step exams and more then the whole cali approval process
is flawed like we think anyways...if these schools were so bad then why and how can students pass the step exams?

ego ego ego thinking us education is superior and its not..I have brought family members to mostly us drs in the past and lemme tell you that I was not impressed...same books,,,same brains =pass step exams

approval is imminent but not without some mooolah to grease em and kissing up st matts covering all bases this time and only maybe another hurricane could stop them

nevisbutterfly
04-21-2007, 02:32 PM
Equinox Capital, Inc. - News (http://www.equinox-capital.com/news.html)

Actually Equinox has recapitalized SABA, MUA and SMU. SABA, MUA-N in April and SMU back in January. Nobody owns anybody right now unless it is Equinox with controlling interest. SABA and MUA still are sister schools and Dr. F is still the president.

As far as CA, each school is on its own. SABA has CA, MUA and SMU don't and will have to apply independently.

Someone on SDN indicated that SMU offices might move to Gardner, MA for re-organization and cut administrative costs by consolidating efforts.

MUA-N and Saba Sold? - Student Doctor Network Forums (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=391417)
We are still trying to find out how many shares Equinox owns in each school.

ol' man
04-21-2007, 03:38 PM
Equinox Capital, Inc. - News (http://www.equinox-capital.com/news.html)

Actually Equinox has recapitalized SABA, MUA and SMU. SABA, MUA-N in April and SMU back in January. Nobody owns anybody right now unless it is Equinox with controlling interest. SABA and MUA still are sister schools and Dr. F is still the president.

As far as CA, each school is on its own. SABA has CA, MUA and SMU don't and will have to apply independently.

Someone on SDN indicated that SMU offices might move to Gardner, MA for re-organization and cut administrative costs by consolidating efforts.

MUA-N and Saba Sold? - Student Doctor Network Forums (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=391417)
We are still trying to find out how many shares Equinox owns in each school.

While MUA has a lot of positives, the admin for them is nowhere close to the SMU admin. I've dealt with both, and response from SMU is prompt and courteous. The financial aid person for MUA, (Ms. T.O.) has still not replied to three e-mails I sent to her over 2 years ago, and the last one she did reply to was only after I had sent it twice to her and then sent it to her superiors asking why I had not gotten a response.

I am not saying anything bad about MUA, because I still think it is a good school, but moving the admin to Gardner would be a HUGE mistake.

Junito
04-21-2007, 08:03 PM
Moving the administrative offices out of Florida would also complicate things for SMU...If I am not mistaken one of the criteria for Florida Approval was that a school had to have property within Florida??? (not sure and too lazy to look up, but do remember this was discussed in the St. Eust forum). I think having the offices in Florida relocated to Mass is a mistake also. Heck moving it to Mass would make things very convenient for me...could drive to the offices from Boston.

Finally, recapitalization...just semantics for me. Watch things start to change in the future. They sold us the same story a year ago. Enough with the crap that the administration at SMU was inefficient and needed a change...That is so far from the truth. The reason I found the changes in the administration positive was due to reasons I don't want to discuss on a public forum (personal).

nevisbutterfly
04-21-2007, 09:53 PM
In you want CA go to a school that has CA.


Otherwise, keep going and pass basics and clinicals, pass the steps and get into residency.

That is all that matters here. We are all in the same boat. SMU is more expensive then Saba which is more expensive than Nevis.

When we all get finished with medical school and residency we will owe a certain amount based on our choices of SGU, Ross etc.......

They do not give you extra salary because you have extra loans.

A teaching degree from Harvard = a teaching degree from community college. The only difference is that the smart Harvard student had his or her parents paying for it or has to pay back 4 x the loan.

Who is the dummy here.

Junito
04-21-2007, 10:00 PM
A teaching degree from Harvard = a teaching degree from community college. The only difference is that the smart Harvard student had his or her parents paying for it or has to pay back 4 x the loan.

Who is the dummy here.

Funny you mentioned this because I was discussing this with my wife earlier. When it comes to teaching the general rule is that a teaching degree is a teaching degree, but in some cases it does matter especially when applying to a highly competitive job (good school in a great school district). Secondly if you were to decide to switch careers the Harvard degree holds more value than the community college degree. (Last I checked teaching requires a 4 year degree which can't be done at a community college). I know about these issues because I taught for 4 years prior to going to med school. Your point was taken though. ;)

MedChe
04-21-2007, 10:04 PM
you actually taught the young minds of america ? may the lord help us. Kidding. Good info though.

nevisbutterfly
04-21-2007, 10:18 PM
Maybe not a community college but an unknown state college that charges a fraction of the cost of Tulane, Harvard or another private school. Unless CA is important to you then - a medical degree for the most part is a medical degree and SMU, MUA-N and Saba is are in the same boat. Right now........ Saba RULES. I con't care to live on the west coast and it means nothing to me. SGU might have a slight advantage but look at the residency positions from SABA, Ortho, Anesthesiology, surgery etc...... SMU has good placements as well......and of course I am partial to Nevis. Like I always said, it is UP TO YOU, YOUR scores and LOR's and basically connections to get where you want to go.


Funny you mentioned this because I was discussing this with my wife earlier. When it comes to teaching the general rule is that a teaching degree is a teaching degree, but in some cases it does matter especially when applying to a highly competitive job (good school in a great school district). Secondly if you were to decide to switch careers the Harvard degree holds more value than the community college degree. (Last I checked teaching requires a 4 year degree which can't be done at a community college). I know about these issues because I taught for 4 years prior to going to med school. Your point was taken though. ;)

tampanian
04-21-2007, 10:28 PM
Juni, I agree with you…

“Enough with the crap that the administration at SMU was inefficient and needed a change...That is so far from the truth.”

Very true! There’s no question that the admin at SMU is among the best in the business and is guiding the school in a very positive direction.



This is interesting…

“If I am not mistaken one of the criteria for Florida Approval was that a school had to have property within Florida???”

Does anyone know if there’s any truth to this?

nevisbutterfly
04-21-2007, 10:32 PM
Please link to the MUA discussion and comment.

http://www.valuemd.com/medical-university-americas-mua-nevis/133624-mua-saba-smu-recapitalization-equinox-2.html

DRJJ1
04-21-2007, 10:47 PM
In you want CA go to a school that has CA.


Otherwise, keep going and pass basics and clinicals, pass the steps and get into residency.

That is all that matters here. We are all in the same boat. SMU is more expensive then Saba which is more expensive than Nevis.

When we all get finished with medical school and residency we will owe a certain amount based on our choices of SGU, Ross etc.......

They do not give you extra salary because you have extra loans.

A teaching degree from Harvard = a teaching degree from community college. The only difference is that the smart Harvard student had his or her parents paying for it or has to pay back 4 x the loan.

Who is the dummy here.

SMU ALREADY MOVED FROM OVEIDO TO ORLANDO

Banker794
04-22-2007, 06:29 AM
Hopefully the acquisition of SABA will not change the mindset of the current school officials who have been great amb****ors for students. All I hear in clinicals is medical students complaining and blaming their school officials for lack of... It would be wrong for me to say that SMU students dont complain but the truth is far less (for all the right reasons)

Junito
04-22-2007, 09:05 AM
Maybe not a community college but an unknown state college that charges a fraction of the cost of Tulane, Harvard or another private school. Unless CA is important to you then - a medical degree for the most part is a medical degree and SMU, MUA-N and Saba is are in the same boat. Right now........ Saba RULES. I con't care to live on the west coast and it means nothing to me. SGU might have a slight advantage but look at the residency positions from SABA, Ortho, Anesthesiology, surgery etc...... SMU has good placements as well......and of course I am partial to Nevis. Like I always said, it is UP TO YOU, YOUR scores and LOR's and basically connections to get where you want to go.

Since when did this thread become a comparison between schools??? I recall that the OP was posting that the rumors about the "recapitalization" of Saba and MUA by Equinox is true...I find it funny how people like to inadvertly trash another school when given a chance. SMU has a great administration, always had, but there were changes made once the "recapitalization" of Equinox occurred (we received the same reassurances that you guys are receiving now, but still things changed). If people are going to be ignorant to these changes and think that things will remain the same at MUA or Saba that is up to them.

azskeptic
04-22-2007, 09:36 AM
it should be noted that Equinox, an investment house, that owns SMU, bought Mua and Saba....not SMU.

Junito
04-22-2007, 11:27 AM
I believe the OP clarified that in the first post on this thread.