Texas approval

[guest00]

anyone know if any graduates have been licensed in texas ?

[dlesher]

The clinical coordinator stated a couple of Saba graduates have been licensed in Texas. It was on a case by case basis. She always explains that as the board of medical examiners changes . . . so do the requirements. It may be favorable at one point in time and unfavorable at another. So, it's certainly possible to practice there . . . but bring your lawyer.

[jameslynton]

... So, it's certainly possible to practice there . . . but bring your lawyer.You are right about legal boy and Texas. Would like to know if there are more Saba grads in Texas. Ross, SGU and AUC appear to have no issues now Texas other than make sure your papers are in very good order and no goof ups.

[Junito]

I was informed by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board that they do not recognize the ACCM as an approved accrediting body. What this means for licensure I don't know. Still trying to get some questions answered.

[Saba23]

Texas is dicey. The PIT (Physician-In-Training) is not a problem for residency and fellowship. The permanent license after that is a problem for Saba grads right now. It is a case-by-case basis. The only Saba grad I know that has been licensed had to pay $25,000 in legal fees, and it took about 1 year for the processing.
SGU and AUC got added to The List in the past year (Ross was the first).
http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/professionals/physicians/applicants/STDNHPSE.rtf

Hopefully Saba will be added soon as TX is a great state for docs to practice. Saba has come a long way and has definately earned it.

If enough qualified Saba grads apply to TX and get accepted, maybe Saba with get on The List...

[mkaitner]

Well...I wish it was easy for Ross Grads. I just finished residency at UT Houston in Texas and TMB won't give me a license because a couple of my clerkships were not green book!!! Any advice???

[aspiringmedstudent]

I am from TX, and while I don't plan on coming back to TX to practice, there's a tiny chance I might, so this is always in the back of my mind.

Yeah, the best advice for practicing in TX is to make sure that ALL of your clinical rotations are green book, electives included. It's true that your licensure is given on a case by case basis - so do whatever you can to beef up your CV. It also probably helps if you're a TX resident. Hopefully by the time we are able to practice, we'll be added to "the list".

[stephew]

ross and sgu grads are given US equivilency with us grads in texas. meaning they can get a license (this of course has nothing to do with how the residency programs will see them).

[wcb22]

we are in similar shoes my friend...

here is some email correspondence i had with nori peterson (TMB) you might find useful.

Dear Texas Medical Board,

I am an IMG (International Medical Graduate) interested in practicing in Texas one day. Just a quick background; I'm almost in my 4th year of medical school, I've passed all required licensing exams (USMLE) up to this point, with no failed attempts, and I'll be receiving my ECFMG certificate this year. I went to an international med school in the caribbean, that's not on your list of approved schools.

I would hope that my credentials would be verified by your AACRAO service.

If required, the applicant will borne the responsibility of requesting and paying for evaluation.
AACRAO is not affiliated to the board, it's utilized as a tool to help determine eligibility .
I do have a bachelors degree, with all prerequisite courses for any US medical school completed. I will then complete a 3 year residency at an ACGME approved hospital in internal medicine (maybe I'll do a residency in Texas) , and become board certified in internal medicine, and possibly go on to do more fellowship training, with board certification in that subspecialty as well (Pulmonary Medicine or Infectious Disease).

I have a few questions regarding permanent licensure in Texas:

1) Would I be disqualified from a license in Texas if one of my 3rd year rotations was not at an ACGME "teaching" rotation site (it was in Family Medicine, at an Indian Health Service - Federal Institution, which also frequents US students, but I found out it was not ACGME approved)?

This could have bearing on your eligibility for licensure. Please refer to the excerpt from the board rules below related to clinical rotations completed in the US.
§163.4. Procedural Rules for Licensure Applicants.
(a) All applicants for licensure:

(8) that receive any medical or osteopathic medical education in the United States must have obtained such education while enrolled as a full-time or visiting student at a medical school that is accredited by an accrediting body officially recognized by the United States Department of Education as the accrediting body for medical education leading to the doctor of medicine degree or the doctor of osteopathy degree in the United States. This subsection does not apply to postgraduate medical education or training. An applicant who is unable to comply with this requirement must demonstrate that the applicant either:
(A) received such medical education in a hospital or teaching institution sponsoring or participating in a program of graduate medical education accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education, the American Osteopathic Association, or the board in the same subject as the medical or osteopathic medical education if the hospital or teaching institution has an agreement with the applicant's school; or
(B) is specialty board certified by a board approved by the Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists or the American Board of Medical Specialties.

2) Would doing a residency in Texas help me in getting a permanent license one day in Texas?

Not necessarily as you could fulfill the training 3 year training requirement by completing an accredited residency in another state.
2) Do you look at the overall applicant for licensure (i.e., board certification, high board scores, subspecialty board certification) for reconsideration if an applicant is in every other way qualified to practice medicine?

All information is taken into consideration, however, we are bound by rules and statutes in effect at the time the applicant applied to determine eligibility.

[wcb22]

so it is my understanding, as per this ruling, that if you are board certified, this supercedes any rotations that were not completed at green book hospitals. the only problem is, you have to take the boards after completing residency, and wait another 1-2 months for the results.

then you apply for licensure, which can take another 9-12 months. i'm assuming if all rotations are green book, then you don't have to wait to take the specialty boards for licensure. but who knows?

lesson is this... if TX is important to you, make sure ROSS, SGU, AUC and UAG are in your choices for schools. they are actually on the TMB list, which will save you a lot of trouble in the future. i didn't think i'd want to come back here, but it turns out, i do.

[rokshana]

so it is my understanding, as per this ruling, that if you are board certified, this supercedes any rotations that were not completed at green book hospitals. the only problem is, you have to take the boards after completing residency, and wait another 1-2 months for the results.

then you apply for licensure, which can take another 9-12 months. i'm assuming if all rotations are green book, then you don't have to wait to take the specialty boards for licensure. but who knows?

lesson is this... if TX is important to you, make sure ROSS, SGU, AUC and UAG are in your choices for schools. they are actually on the TMB list, which will save you a lot of trouble in the future. i didn't think i'd want to come back here, but it turns out, i do.

evidently board certification does, but remember board cert exams are both written and oral in some disciplines and are offered only once a year and the oral and written are generally not given at the same time- it can tak over a year to get certified(and that is if you pass on the 1st go!)

http://www.valuemd.com/ross-university-school-medicine/134417-ineligible-texas-license.html

this thread over at the ross forum seems relevant.

[Saba23]

lesson is this... if TX is important to you, make sure ROSS, SGU, AUC and UAG are in your choices for schools. they are actually on the TMB list, which will save you a lot of trouble in the future. i didn't think i'd want to come back here, but it turns out, i do.

Gotta agree... until Saba gets on the Texas list, the other schools have the obvious advantage if Texas is your goal... it's still doable, but only one Saba grad has received a permanent license in Texas
Hopefully Saba will one day get on the list

Conversely if you're Canadian and you want to return to Canada, Saba is lookin pretty good these days (considering cost of tuition and # of Canadian matches)