admission into Med1...

['sauga]

...I understand admission into Med1 at MUA is automatic if you get at least a 3.0 in your preMed, but how does 3.0 translate as a percentage? Is it 75%, 80%, or more? And I have also read on other sites about "greenbook clinical placements", can someone elaborate on this please?

Every response will be greatly appreciated.

[doug2222]

hey just a pall park figure, cuz when i got my interview they looked at my GPA. I come from a Canadian school. I had a 70% over all and according to my university grading scale its a 3.0 GPA. Now if you are from a US school you are probably lookin at 80%. But it is all relative to your schools grading scale as well.

['sauga]

I am from Canada too, Mississauga in particular, and I did not know that they look at the GPA for PreMed as well...have you gotten accepted

[jd.84]

The 3.0 translates into 80%. However, keep in mind that the number of credits are also taken into account. So, for example, if you were to come out of pre-med 1 with a 4.0 average, you can still get your 3.0 as long as you get 71% or higher in all of your classes in pre-med 2. As far as greenbook clinicals go, some states require you do greenbook rotations in order to get licensed. A rotation is greenbook (i believe this is correct) if a residency can be done in that field at the hospital. So, if you're doing a peds rotation at hospital X, and hospital X has a residency in peds, then that peds rotation is considered greenbook. To get a list of the current greenbook rotations at MUA, you can do a search on this forum or contact the admin by phone or e-mail. Hope this helps.

['sauga]

Thank you very much jd. That helped me a lot.

[sheikh1]

3.0 is B average............G

['sauga]

3.0 is B average............G

I realize that, however in Canada (where I'm from) B average is from 70% to 75%, that is why I asked how it translates in percentage because I figured it must be different in the States.

[doug2222]

Grading varies from one university to another. Most Universities in Canada GPA of 3.0 which is a B translates to a percentage of about 70%.
Here is a link for the Ontario Medical Schools Application Center GPA conversion table:
http://www.ouac.on.ca/omsas/pdf/c_omsas_b.pdf

You can see what i mean when i say it varies cuz for example Queen's University Engineering has 66% is 2.7 where as for other University programs its about 70+. Most canadian schools use the '3' or '7' scheme from that chart on the link for anyone interested.

That should just give you a rough figure, becuase obviously MUA admissions committee uses their own scheme. However that being said, if you go to the SABA website they do have a link for the Ontario Medical Schools Center GPA scale, so I am sure they use that as some sort of reference.

Also, even if your GPA is a bit short of the median cut off of 3.0 (if you even wanna call it a cut off), they look at the whole package that includes your reference letters and personal statement.

I highly doubt that MUA is gonna turn down a highly experienced and qualified individual, just because they have a 2.8 GPA especially if that individual was working full time and attending school at the same time.

haha mind you i am not even in Med 1 yet, so I don't have that much advice to offer, someone like Sheikh is probably someone you can turn to for advice.

I wish everyone the best in their application

['sauga]

Thanx doug, much appreciated. My interview for pre-med1 is in a couple of weeks...wish me luck.

[doug2222]

Best of luck to you sauga, i am sure you will do fine, the interview is relaxed.

[curious01]

Hi,
I have heard people can fail pre med. For those who have done the program, how hard is it to get a 3.0? I know the program is not easy, but I'm just curious as to how others (who have gone through the program) were able to maintain good grades.

Any tips or advice would be appreciated.

[Romey]

Hi,
I have heard people can fail pre med. For those who have done the program, how hard is it to get a 3.0? I know the program is not easy, but I'm just curious as to how others (who have gone through the program) were able to maintain good grades.

I'm in premed 1, and it is hard work to keep a 4.0 avaerage. Medical Terminolgy is very time consuming as it is 500+ words every 2 weeks that you need to memorize for the blocks. I would suggest that if you have no chem background, then get a chem text and start reading! It moves very fast here (if you have taken Chem it will be much easier). People with no chem background are really stuggling here to understand the concepts. If you don't know what a mole is than you needs to get a chem book asap! Anatomy and Physiology are not that bad either. You can usually spend 2-3 days studying and get a good grade on your exams. Anatomy is 3 days a week and Physio 2 days so much less material. But chem and MT is everyday so it is a very big workload. All tests are m/c except Medical Term - it is matching, give definition, give word (definition is given) and some m/c. There are usally 100 words from a list of 400-600. But with Medterm you have recovery. On the Monday after the blocks you get your exam back and you can fix all the mistakes and get 1/2 of the missed marks back - I know it sounds crazy but you really need it. So you can go from a 70% (2.0) to a 85% (3.5). If you have any other questions let me know.

[nadira]

Hi i just finished premed 2 and i will not lie to you in saying that the pre med program is easy. You have to manage your time from the start of the semester and be sure to do well especially in pre med 1 so you dont struggle as much in premed 2 since its a bit more work. Overall you need to maintain at least a 3.0 GPA by the end of premed2 and it is possible if you study hard from the get go. Best of luck:)

['sauga]

Hi i just finished premed 2 and i will not lie to you in saying that the pre med program is easy. You have to manage your time from the start of the semester and be sure to do well especially in pre med 1 so you dont struggle as much in premed 2 since its a bit more work. Overall you need to maintain at least a 3.0 GPA by the end of premed2 and it is possible if you study hard from the get go. Best of luck:)

Thanx, I start in two weeks:omg:

[jd.84]

hey everyone! just thought i'd give my two cents worth. i actually just finished med 1 this semester after completing the pre-med program. pre-med is NOTHING compared to the med program. Honestly, it's not that hard to get a 3.0. also, don't go into the med program thinking, oh i did pre-med i don't have to study that hard. WRONG, approach every class as if you know nothing. honestly, pre-med is good just for background, so you don't feel lost going into med 1. everyone told me, oh you get exposed to a lot of things you will see later on and you will be ahead of everyone, WRONG. you still have to work just as hard as someone coming straight into med 1 from undergrad to do well. i fell into that trap, and i had to drop anatomy and will be retaking histo because i failed by a few points. i'm not trying to scare anyone going into pre-med. i don't regret doing the pre-med program, because it's very good in giving you a little taste of what's ahead, but when all of you make it to med 1 :), don't be cocky just because you did pre-med here otherwise it will kick you in your butt. i wish i could time travel, and re-do this past semester, but i can't. i lost my motivation coming out of pre-med (because i felt relieved to finally be in the med program) and now it's costing me an extra semester and more money. i've learned my lesson the hard way and rest assured it won't happen again, but i don't want anyone coming out of pre-med 2 or starting pre-med 1 to go through what i am. ok, sorry for the long post. good luck to everyone and don't be scared, pre-med is not hard! if anyone wants to ask me questions about pre-med or med 1, feel free to pm me

[nadira]

Thanks for the advice jd.84. I have heard many times that med1 is easy if you have gone through the premed program but doesnt seem to be true after last semester.

[boukies]

anatomy is all about paying attention in class...if you can just listen to dr s for the 2 or 3 hours of lecture...you're studying time is totally cut back....histo i have no idea what the new prof is like....embryo...well its embryo.