New article in Pittsburgh newspaper

[azskeptic]

Medical students criticize school in St. Kitts - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/today/s_492706.html)

[Sree Cheruku]

wow this place is really scary

[ex-stmu]

Here's another link to another article.

Jobs, News and Views for All of Higher Education - Inside Higher Ed :: Examining an Island Medical School (http://insidehighered.com/news/2007/01/05/caribbean)

The American College of Metaphysical Theology? Yeah, right!

[stateofequilibrium]

If you're looking for a response, you won't get one since it's the administration's FIRST priority not to respond to anything negative on valuemd.

[ex-stmu]

Apparently, from all of the articles, it's also their priority not to respond to ANY of this, other than "profanity and threatening law suits". Hmmmm....I wonder why that is.....

[atlanticvioxx]

The Pittsburgh paper mentioned improper treatment of cadavers: I would like to hear more on this one.

[stateofequilibrium]

The Pittsburgh paper mentioned improper treatment of cadavers: I would like to hear more on this one.

Apparently they're not even supposed to have cadavers.

[azskeptic]

at what point do students get concerned when they read articles like this? Do they have action plans? If anything has been learned from the SC/Kigezi/St. Luke things it has to be that those who aren't prepared end up with some major problems. Would be interesting to hear from students but probably we won't hear anything for reasons one can imagine.

azskeptic

[DRDRWMD]

All one has to do is go to their official website to see for themselves how St. Theresa's is (they really should upgrade it, if they want their school taken more seriously). I am sure valuemd likes them, because I always see their banner on their website (along with a few other sponsoring medical schools).

I am wondering if the cadaver tissues were not placed in trash cans to be cremated with the rest of the cadaver once the students are finished dissecting? The article stated differently, it is a shame if it transpired in the manner stated in the article.

[ex-stmu]

I was there, I saw it. It happened like the article said. I did not see what the final disposition of the cadaver was, though. Maybe it was the same cadaver the report who visited last fall saw....

[lswiltshire]

It is good when students are willing to leave an institution and warn others of its short comings.

There are too many selfish students at bogus medical schools, who are so glad to get into a medical school, or/and who know they wont get into any other school , who just grin and bear the foolishness with which they have to put up; hoping against hope that somehow it will all work out.

Grace, Kizezi, St Chris, StLukes has not yet sunk in it seems.

It seems that newbies dont listen to the seniors on this forum enough.

At the same time, if the St Kitts government was worth its salt, it would close this school with haste, and would have closed IUHS, long, long ago.

[Scott1981]

i agree with everyone here, and i said that stmu was a scam once their little website popped up from day one.

BUT, this statment is a little rediculous---
"I was bleeding pretty badly. ***** wanted me to go to the emergency room and I said, 'You're a doctor; sew me up. I trust you,' " she said. "When he wouldn't, I knew something was wrong."

what basic science professor would "sew" you up in school? hell, i could be in baylor, johns hopkins, harvard, etc basic science class with a world famous surgeon teaching it and still get directed to the emergency room.

[magicman32]

I need a current pharmacy student to give me updated information about the school, like if it's accredited by the USA and if there is any rotations in an american states.

[teratos]

i agree with everyone here, and i said that stmu was a scam once their little website popped up from day one.

BUT, this statment is a little rediculous---
"I was bleeding pretty badly. ***** wanted me to go to the emergency room and I said, 'You're a doctor; sew me up. I trust you,' " she said. "When he wouldn't, I knew something was wrong."

what basic science professor would "sew" you up in school? hell, i could be in baylor, johns hopkins, harvard, etc basic science class with a world famous surgeon teaching it and still get directed to the emergency room.


Darned right. If you came to my OFFICE i would direct you to the ER. I am an internist. I haven't sewn a wound in 4 years...

[azskeptic]

Darned right. If you came to my OFFICE i would direct you to the ER. I am an internist. I haven't sewn a wound in 4 years... Difference for me might be that I am in a 3rd world nation, the person teaching me how to sew people is refusing to sew me up? is that what happened?

Teratos, I agree with you, I wouldn't want you sewing me up if you weren't teaching it or doing it regularly.

[stateofequilibrium]

Darned right. If you came to my OFFICE i would direct you to the ER. I am an internist. I haven't sewn a wound in 4 years...

Hmph, so when the dead rise from their graves and roam the earth for human flesh, you won't be any good to our band of merry survivors then, will you?

[AUCMD2006]

Difference for me might be that I am in a 3rd world nation, the person teaching me how to sew people is refusing to sew me up? is that what happened?

Teratos, I agree with you, I wouldn't want you sewing me up if you weren't teaching it or doing it regularly.

they were learning anatomy, you learn how to stich in clinicals not in school..if the teacher wasn't a ER doc or surgeon he probably hasn't sewn a wound since 3rd year surgery rotation

[Aviv Imanuel]

they were learning anatomy, you learn how to stich in clinicals not in school..if the teacher wasn't a ER doc or surgeon he probably hasn't sewn a wound since 3rd year surgery rotation

True. And I should add, he did the right thing by referring him to the ER.

[ol' man]

Hmmmm. Good thing you two aren't "consumer advocates" I guess? LOL

[sheikh1]

My local family doc is an internist, I never thought she will refer....me to the ER...for minor procedure.

[lswiltshire]

It doesnt take but a few minutes to sew up a minor laceration

you can either do it or you cant

like riding a bicycle

[AUCMD2006]

It doesnt take but a few minutes to sew up a minor laceration

you can either do it or you cant

like riding a bicycle


yes but even riding a bike after a long hiatus requires a few tries before riding straight and confortably again....same token just because you can do something doesn't mean you should specially if there are ither options. plus this sounded like a deep cut since it was with a surgical blade..any internist wanna take the blame for nerve damage? even though its not your fault some lawyter will ask how much training you've had suturing and how many you do a day to keep your 'skills'

[k_tanaka]

they were learning anatomy, you learn how to stich in clinicals not in school..if the teacher wasn't a ER doc or surgeon he probably hasn't sewn a wound since 3rd year surgery rotation

For all you know the guy probably did not get to do clinical rotations at all(didnt complete his medical education......according to the news article posted by azskeptic) !!!!!!

[sheikh1]

There is no short cut to medicine.

[Aviv Imanuel]

My local family doc is an internist, I never thought she will refer....me to the ER...for minor procedure.


What if they did not have the adequate equipment with them? Sterile needle, etc?

For what I read, they were there learning anatomy, not doing a clinical core in ER , FM, IM or surgery.