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brownsuga
02-10-2007, 12:52 AM
HI,:D
The school sounds ok, but new...:(
What about clinicals? :roll:
What states can IAU's students do clinicals in :confused:
Could you list at least some hospitals... and what areas I could or could not work in? :shock:
Thanks! :)
truebird
02-10-2007, 11:25 AM
R u kidding me?? the school is crap..
If the school was soooo good, how come 6 students left the school in one semester and to top it all off the dean also left...
Currently there is only about 20-24 students attending that school. All the students there have nothing better to do than to start alot of drama and shit. Yes, some of them do study but the majority will waste your time and somehow get you involved into some shit.
If you are about to start med school, my recommendation to you is to start at St. Matthews, Ross, St. George's University, or at Saba. These schools will be better for you in the long run.
iaustudent06
02-10-2007, 01:16 PM
Yeah we did lose 6 students...
5 of them failed out, 1 left for medical reasons. so basically 1 out of 5 left, did you think everyone would make it through?
yes, we're replacing the dean. with NY coming, we need someone with more experience.
i agree some school are more established. but didn't st mathews just get denied by california?
and no matter what school you go to, there's a study group of people, the inbetweens, the failures, and the troublemakers.
since truebird knows so much information, it is obvious it is probably someone who goes here, and is probably failing anyways.
about clinicals....
i believe you can do all clinicals, ICM, and kaplan in chicago through jackson park, micheal reese, cook county system... and all are certified.
for atlanta, i believe all except one rotation and ICM can be done, and certified.
for baton rouge, i believe all except one rotation and kaplan can be done, and certified.
i don't know all hospitals names, can an official help me out?
IAUinsider
02-10-2007, 02:14 PM
What's up Brownsuga!
Just to add to what IAUSTUDENT06 said earlier...we may have lost 6 students and our assistant dean; but try to see the story from the vantage point of current students-those who are in the program and succeeding. Losing students is part of the programs, here and at any school-not just foreign medical schools. Find out/see why those students who failed-failed. Prior to joining any medical school, one should not come in with the expectation of an 'easy ride'. Thus, those students who take their time to come to a Caribbean Island, like IAU or any other island/school and decide to waste their time AND money on relaxing and barely doing the work that they ought to be doing, should consider a different profession. In short, medical school is what you make of it...if you are planning to pursue a future in medicine and are looking at IAU, look past it's 'newness on the block' and see all the positives points that can be seen. Being new can have its advantages.
:roll: And if you are thinking about what 'truebird' has said, find out their past history/medical school(s) and see where they are today...that ought to make a difference in what they have to say...
IAU may be a small school, but the teachers and administration are here for one thing-to see their students have the best that they can offer. Look for more students to coming to IAU, as a big class of students graduating from the Texas A&M program will be arriving this fall!
I hope this will help you in your selection of Medical Schools.
IAUStudent006
02-10-2007, 06:45 PM
Hey Brownsuga, nice to hear that you are considering IAU. As for the comments by truebird, well, its just sad to hear that someone feels that way about the school... I completely agree with IAUinsider and iaustudent06, this school will give you the opportunity to succeed, you just have to take advantage of them. Of the students that left, many either did not want to be here or chose to leave due to low grades. What truebird also fails to mention is that we also had students graduate and head back to the US to start their clinical rotations. All in all, I believe if you look hard enough, you'll find faculty and students that really do want to achieve and help you.
drs2009
02-10-2007, 08:33 PM
As one of the students who DID make it off the island to begin clinicals, I can say that IAU provides its students with a good education. Whether or not you take advantage of that is your own choice. Yes, we did lose some students recently, but as others have stated, you have to think about why they left.
iau_student_06
02-10-2007, 09:56 PM
-Sorry if this post twice internet was being flaky
I'm a current student at IAU and what "truebird" said is coming from a person who obviously has problem with the school. But if you do your work and focus on the end goal the "drama and distractions" are all just background noise and shouldn’t bother you. I mean seriously what school (especially a small one) won't have drama. It’s inevitable because of a single fact that not everyone will like everyone. Issues develop all the time but that is called LIFE. The majority of the student body here is to work hard and move forward with the next phase of their career in the United States and this school provides that crucial next step for us to succeed in the US. As to the faculty no where else will you receive a 1.5/1 ratio of students to teacher. My undergraduate degree is from a US major university where my classes consisted of 400-500 students per lecture. Were as here I actually know the name of my teachers and have a great academic/personal with all of them. You really won’t get that in many other schools especially not at SGU or Ross where class sizes are between 200-300 students per lecture. Hope that was helpful.
truebird
02-11-2007, 06:21 AM
the students are immature, evil, and cruel.
the teachers maybe good but the students are crap.
normal humans don't go around egging people's houses, pissing on people's couches, or vomiting on somebody's bed. only certain immature individuals from dallas do that kind of crap. and to top it off they are not even man enough to admit to their own mistakes becuz they are too scared to face the consequences. all these people are trying to do is put you in a trap. dont ever go to this school becuz somehow or in someway u will get screwed over.
thank you...
IAUStudent006
02-11-2007, 10:47 AM
I don't agree with truebird at all about the students here putting you into a trap. I don't understand why truebird feels this way about the students here. My interactions with all of the students have been positive, and I hope you don't take what truebird is saying seriously. Every student that I have seen that works hard and tries to make the school a better place to be has succeeded in class as well as moving on to the US to do their clinicals. The SGA (Student Government Association) at IAU will have a new website up shortly, so I implore you to ask them the hard questions, and see what they have to say. It can be reached by going to IAU's main website.
truebird
02-11-2007, 11:07 AM
Hey iaustudent006 don't lie to her, just tell her the real story. I know and a lot of other people know what you guys do down there, so stop lying. I have many people to vouch for me about all the crap that went on at IAU. For once in your life, why don't you stop misleading people and actually lead them on the correct path. Brownsuga, my advice to you is go to another med school that actually has a meaning behind its name like St. George University, Ross University, or St. Matthews University.
brownsuga
02-11-2007, 11:15 AM
i was asking about clinicals...
IAUStudent006
02-11-2007, 11:34 AM
Yeah, truebird has clearly taken this conversation off the path that it really needed to be on. Clinicals, as far as I can tell, are available in every area that you can think of. New York is coming down in April to see if we can be accredited. Certain states require you to have "certified" rotations completed before you can join a residency program in that state. This school (as far as I know - any administrator can correct me on this) can work with you to find the rotations that are "certified" so you can do a residency program in the state of your choice. Unfortunately, I have not gone through the process of clinicals yet, as I am still working on completing my courses down here at IAU. If there is anyone that can give brownsuga more information about the specifics on clinicals, that would be great.
iaustudent06
02-11-2007, 11:42 AM
you can do 12 weeks of clinicals in new york, until they come to inspect us...
here's a link to approved schools right now in NY...
NYS Medicine Application Forms (http://www.op.nysed.gov/medforms.htm)
i already mentioned atlanta, baton rouge, and chicago...
depending on what state you're from, they may require ALL rotations to be certified or just a couple. generally it is better if you do all rotations this way. the down side is you have been to switch hospitals within these cities to do that.
for hospital names, wait till after monday for an official to answer. but i have heard they are willing to get you rotations, if you know where you want to go, and as long as it doesn't not conflict with laws, etc.
brownsuga
02-11-2007, 11:45 AM
what is I.C.M.? do i have to take kaplan?
IAUStudent006
02-11-2007, 11:52 AM
I.C.M. - is a course taken in between your Clinical rotations and when you're down at school learning your basic sciences. (I believe it stands for Introduction to Clinical Medicine). You do have to take Kaplan right before you take the Step 1's. Its probably a good thing because it allows you to refresh all of the material that you have learned over the past year and a half and prepare for the USMLE's.
This is what IAU has available to our clinical students:
--All cores and electives can be done in Chicago at Jackson Park or Isaac Ray Center (84 weeks). IAU is under contract with these institutions.
--Internal Medicine core (12 weeks) is the only rotation available at Baton Rouge General, however, more are probably on the way. This is a newly established contract and our "seed" students are currently thoroughly impressed with the doctors. We expect and desire more rotations to be added in the near future (this year) in Baton Rouge.
--All cores and electives can be done in Atlanta via the GMC (this holds true at many GMC hospitals).
Our focus for now therefore is on our Chicago- and Baton Rouge-based hospitals. We are undergoing the NY accreditation procedure, and if all goes well more hospitals in this city/region will be added to our list.
The clinicals page will be updated when necessary, so check there as the months go by.
IAUCOM ~ Clinicals (http://iau.edu.lc/clinicals.html)
iaustudent06
02-13-2007, 04:04 PM
thanks for the fast response from the officials...
hope this answered your questions...
btw, ICM (i think 6 or 7 weeks) and kaplan (another 6 weeks) is taken back in the US, after the 16 months on the island, covered as the 5th semester. after that, then step 1.
you must pass USMLE to go on to these clinicals...
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