what are my chances?

[crystal]

What are the chances of being accepted once invited for an interview?
My interview is next week. Thank you! :roll:

[MitchDC]

Crystal, I know this is intuitive, but your chances still greatly depend on several factors:

1) Academic history (GPA, degree, courses taken, MCAT)
2) Health Care experience (physician shadowing, patient interaction, any?)
3) Your personality, your essay and your ability to form an intelligent personal statement

4) Personal achievements, accomplishments
5) Your perceived ability to make it through the program

After the interview your files is sent down to Dominica to be reviewed by the admissions committee here. This group of faculty and administration review all of the information in your application, your transcripts, and your interview letter to determine whether you will make it here at Ross and as a physician.

Without knowing any of your other information, it really is impossible to give you any idea about your chances. Clearly though, you have a better chance now than you did before you were invited for an interview.

Hope this helps at least a little.

MitchDC

[crystal]

Thank you! I will try to summarize as much as possible.
Overall GPA is 3.O, Science GPA is 3.8, Post Grad GPA is also 3.8. MCAT has been taken, but is low.

Major: Interdisciplinary Studies (Completed B.A. and graduated Cum Laude).

Then decided to pursue medicine. Went back to school.
Relevant Courses Taken: Physics 1 and 2, Gen. Chem. 1 and 2, Animal Biology, Organic Chem. 1 and 2, Human Anatomy and Phys., Vertebrate Anat. and Pys. All contained lab courses.

Volunteer at Level One Trauma Center for 2 years. Worked at a med. clinic assisting physicians in conducting pharmaceudical studies. This all includes physcian shadowing and patient interaction.

Personal Achievements: Taught English at the high school level, and currently teach Compartive Anatomy and Physiology at the high school level. ( I also coach basketball, on the literacy committee, disciplinary committee, sophomore class advisor, Students Against Destructive Decisions advisor etc...)

Personality: I do well with interviews and enjoy meeting new people. Personal history statement seemed O.K. I had several people read and critique it.

Does this sound O.K.? What should be my biggest selling point in the interview? I would appreciate your advice. :roll:
Thank You

[futurestudentmay03]

from your description of yourself, you will definitely get into Ross and any other Carib Med School.

[julian187]

what are my chances of admission into ross with a 30 mcat and a 3.0 gpa overall but about 2.7 in sciences.

[KDog]

Now here is a case where I think you should consider upgrading a few science courses to boost your overall GPA and science GPA. With a 30 MCAT this should give you a good chance for a US school

[DrLeopardshark]

Yes, I would postpone your island adventure to increase your science GPA. A 30 on the MCAT is good enough to get into a US School. Apply broadly, and don't be picky. Beggars can't be choosers. If it fails within a year, then come on down.

Good Luck.

[none4now]

You chances are good. But they are correct if you can boost your GPA to a 3.5 you have a shot in a US School. If you don't want to wait another year or two then come here.

[singer]

nonefornow:

In order to boost a gpa from 3.0 to 3.5 would require another three to four years of college or graduate school. Don't waste the years of your life and not be sure you will even get into a US medical school.

Investigate altenatives such as SGU, ROSS,AUC.

[2ndyear]

This individual has a 2.7 science gpa. It will take years, if at all possible, to increase his/her gpa to a 3.5. Even with a 4.0 in graduate schools, any us admission commitee will still look at the applicant's undergraduate grades. There are lots of applicants with phenomenal grades applying to stateside schools everyyear and unfortunately, without special circumstances, this individual will get pass over everytime. Going to medical schools like RUSM is the price most of us have to pay for enjoying our 'youths' too much. It is still baffling to me why there are so many cocky individuals at Ross. oh well....

[link626]

Your chances are excellent. My stats sound the same as yours.

Ross took me in.

Ross only looks at premed gpa on your application.

My MCAT score was also 30.

My premed gpa was ~3.3

overall gpa was a tad under 3.0 i guess.

My upper division science gpa was <2.0 if you count the D's I got. It was a tough school, and I didn't spend enough time studying. But I'm not gonna dwell on excuses.

I thought I could spend an extra year taking science courses post-bacc to raise my GPA, but after calculating, I found that even if i did get all A's, my overall GPA would only increase by 0.1. That would probably not even get me past med school computer screenings.

It was not worth the time and money, so I gave up on post-bacc and decided on Ross. I don't plan on being a superstar doctor anyway. And I want to have a family by age 30. So time is precious for me.

[none4now]

You are exaggerating just a little I was able to go from a 2.8 to 3.2 in two years. And if you thoroughly read my post I said if you don’t want to wait a year or TWO come here

[link626]

You are exaggerating just a little I was able to go from a 2.8 to 3.2 in two years. And if you thoroughly read my post I said if you don’t want to wait a year or TWO come here


the problem is, even with a 3.2 gpa from a non-ivy school, your chances of getting into a US med school are slim to none.

Based on statistics from Berkeley, out of ~75 students with 3.2 gpa who applied to US med school, only 1 got in, and this 1 probably had extraordinary credentials outside the curriculum. Although this is not the best data in the world, it does give you an idea about what your chances are.

some people spend an extra 2 years getting a Master's degree at some state university. That increases your chances a bit.

Lots of colleges offer 1-year post-bacc programs just to get your money. I'm not sure what the outcome of these programs is though.

[ScottsdaleIndian]

Hey guys, Sorry this is probably a question you've heard a billion times, but I'm a college junior totally new to researching these schools. Who/where can tell me basic admission stats and stuff, or anything atleast on Ross Univ? I mean can I get in with a 3.5, 3.0, 2.5, what? What would you say a decent MCAT score is for Ross?
I've looked for websites and stuff couldn't find much about the basics, could you help me out. Thanks all.

[utorontograd]

Hi Scottsdale,

I unfortunately can't give you a clear cut answer. Perhaps someone else will. Ross does tend to be more forgiving on admissions than SGU, AUC and Saba (top 4 caribbean schools). As a junior you should shoot for the U.S and if it doesn't work out then apply offshore as an alternative.

Best of luck.

[txdoc22]

GPA and MCAT are the first things looked at by any school, so they should be decent. However, Ross tends to give students with lower numbers a second look if they can prove that they have what it takes. Show that you are active in volunteering, research is always a plus, have some leadership experience in student organizations, etc. If you have some bad grades that dropped your GPA, explain them in the interview (if you get one). I had a low GPA and a decent MCAT score. I had good explanations for some of my grades (others I didn't...I just suck at chemistry). US schools didn't give me an interview so I couldn't show them that I have the passion and drive to make it in med school, despite some bad choices and grades in undergrad. Ross gave me that second chance and offered me an interview. I was able to show them who I am and explain some low marks on my transcript. So I would advise you to do everything you can to raise your GPA now. I know the application process to US schools is long, but go ahead with it. Try your best to get in. If you don't get an interview by December, then either re-apply, or if your GPA is too low, go ahead and apply to Ross. The application process is a lot shorter. Get straight in your mind what it takes to make it in medical school, decide if that's really what you want to put yourself through, and, if it is, don't give up and don't let anything stand in your way. If you really want it, you'll get it. Good luck!

[shelly122493]

Not to be discouraging but one thing you might want to consider that absolutely no one will ever tell you about carribean medical schools is the attrition rates. I am in clinicals now and I am thankful to ross for giving me this oppurtunity but I should probably tell you that my class started with 157 students, by the end of second semester we had 105 of the originals left (I am not counting the repeaters because they didnt start with us). By the end of 4th semester we had 79 originals left. Next we went to 5th and took the comp exam to be eligable for the USMLE step 1 and only 52 of use were qualified to take the Step right away. I was the second person in the class to take the step and I passed. In the end I believe that only around 40% to 60% of Ross students (and probably other carribean medical students) ever make it through and go on to clinicals.

U.S. medical schools have to publish their attrition rates and the average is only around 7% were I believe carribean medical schools have an attrition rate of around 50%. Looking at from this perspective I see now that I was taking an enormous chance with going to a carribean medical school. I must say if I knew then what I know now I would have still gone through it but one thing is for certain, unlike U.S. medical schools attending a carribean medical school is definetly risky from the financial and career standpoint.

If you really want it and you have no other choice but a carribean medical school then go for it!!!!!!!

Just keep in mind that it will take more effort than you have probably ever given before.

Good luck and I hope everything goes well for you.

Sincerely, a satisfied ross clinical student.

[sukhtinder]

i remember the days when all you needed was a pulse to get in.

[popozao]

i remember the days when all you needed was a pulse to get in.



oh no. that's still all you need to get in. they cram their 1st year class like canned sardines.

except, now a pulse won't guarantee you'll make it all the way through.

[MitchDC]

This simply is not true. Students have already said that there are lots of empty seats in the semester 1 classroom.

Additionally, even when all you needed was a pulse to get in Ross never passed students that didn't deserve to pass. Some schools pass everybody, but from what I've heard Ross has always had fair but strict passing standards. Now they are quite picky on who they accept - there just happens to be 350+ students who are qualified and many many more who apply.

-M

oh no. that's still all you need to get in. they cram their 1st year class like canned sardines.

except, now a pulse won't guarantee you'll make it all the way through.

[utorontograd]

Offshore schools are definitely gaining popularity now that the older ones have officially met the educational requirements of all 50 states. I think that's a good thing.

[supafly]

all is 12,000+ dollars from salle mae or from moms and pops and ross admissions will greet you with a big grin on their face.

ross is a business, which gives selected few who make it through the chance to become and MD. try your damnest to get into an american school, if you still want to be a doctor after that, welcome.

[Batti]

GPA 3.72
cGPA 3.81
MCAT 18/M
a couple of volunteer work at a hospital and overseas, no research.

[Dr.X]

I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Apply and find out..."

[HocusPocus]

forget carib schools, retake the mcat and apply to american schools.

[supafly]

+++++++

ross should be dead last on your list,

they let you retake the mcat 3 times, shoot for it.

[owleyes]

Any chance of getting into Ross with a 2.9 GPA and a 23M on the mcat?

[Locuscoeruleus22]

Most definately re-take the MCAT, continue volunteering, find a job doing some research which might lead to a publication, learn Spanish if you don't already know it, and definately apply to US schools. Depending on your age and how long you willing to wait, I'd apply at least 2X because almost 50% of matriculants to US schools are 2nd time applicants.

[Locuscoeruleus22]

Ross says they look at the individual as a whole, they evaluate the whole application. What have you done so far in terms of your commitment to medicine (e.g volunteering, research, etc)? what makes you unique? why didn't you do as well in undergrad, and what will you do differently in med school? You should be prepare to address all of these questions. Good luck.

[popozao]

oh no. that's still all you need to get in. they cram their 1st year class like canned sardines.

except, now a pulse won't guarantee you'll make it all the way through.

This simply is not true. Students have already said that there are lots of empty seats in the semester 1 classroom.

Additionally, even when all you needed was a pulse to get in Ross never passed students that didn't deserve to pass. Some schools pass everybody, but from what I've heard Ross has always had fair but strict passing standards. Now they are quite picky on who they accept - there just happens to be 350+ students who are qualified and many many more who apply.

-M


there are tons of empty seats because people don't go to class. and because some of the teachers suck. we used to skip out on the crappy teachers all the time. the class was hella empty then.
you don't need to go to class to memorize the stuff. and 1st year is all memorization.

[Twinkle09]

so, the MCAT scores came out last night? i need to check my scores omg..am leaving on a trip this afternoon...may be i should check it later..am a little nervous...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
anyways, goodluck to everyone! ;)

[Determined2bDoc]

You have exactly the same stats as me. I got MERPed at Ross.

[aznbo25]

Tell me what my chances are..cuz im sorta fishy about it...

Major: biochemistry and molecular biophysics
Research: one research lasted for 3 months and another one for 7months
**might publish a paper..not sure yet****
Job: work wtih disabled woman
Mcat: 32
gpa: 3.6

[Dr.X]

Tell me what my chances are..cuz im sorta fishy about it...

Major: biochemistry and molecular biophysics
Research: one research lasted for 3 months and another one for 7months
**might publish a paper..not sure yet****
Job: work wtih disabled woman
Mcat: 32
gpa: 3.6

You're kidding, right? With those stats. why are you even on these boards? Those stats. are your one way ticket into a U.S. med. school....
As for your chance at any carib. school your are pretty much 99.9% in!

[Shah_Patel_PT]

Tell me what my chances are..cuz im sorta fishy about it...

Major: biochemistry and molecular biophysics
Research: one research lasted for 3 months and another one for 7months
**might publish a paper..not sure yet****
Job: work wtih disabled woman
Mcat: 32
gpa: 3.6

US med school material...(as long as there are no discrete secrets)

otherwise 100% at ross or st. george

[txdoc22]

Really? You got MERPed with a 3.72? The MCAT must count for more than I thought!

[Shah_Patel_PT]

You have exactly the same stats as me. I got MERPed at Ross.

I think you got MERPed due to the MCAT.

A high GPA really does not matter, since it is not standardized like the MCAT exam.

[simpleman1]

i had a 16M with a 3.75 Science and I got in.. please, apply and find out. If they are in a good mood, they will admit u.

I got my august scores and it looks like i am pointing towards DO now, but still thinking of Ross

[allstarforever]

You have exactly the same stats as me. I got MERPed at Ross.

what was your mcat?? Did you have 18 and get merped??

[jasonedward]

Hey guys,
I know you get this all the time but I just got my MCAT scores and it isnt looking good. I got a 21 and I have a 2.9 gpa. I have volunteer and reseach experience, etc... I was wondering if I have a shot of getting into Ross for Summer 07. Thanks for any help guys.

[SamiAliMD]

Nah bro! I think the ave. MCAT for ross is a 19. And the vol. and research helps. Don't giveup man... my friend is in the same boat. That is what the caribbean is all about.. second chances. Good luck!:)

[jameslynton]

Hey guys,
I know you get this all the time but I just got my MCAT scores and it isnt looking good. I got a 21 and I have a 2.9 gpa. I have volunteer and reseach experience, etc... I was wondering if I have a shot of getting into Ross for Summer 07. Thanks for any help guys.Hey none of us are on admissions committiees. However, apply - you will never know. Also apply to schools in the US also - you never know. Some schools are harder than others so GPA is not the same.

Your other choices - study more for the MCAT and retake it, take easier course to bring up your GPA, etc.

[Dr. MD11]

Instead of asking the same question over and over again.....it is easier to search this forum!!!!! There is a multidude of threads like this one! And for the future......don't ask about the interview....it is also mentioned on this forum....search.....and you will find what you looking for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace

[sukhtinder]

This simply is not true. Students have already said that there are lots of empty seats in the semester 1 classroom.

Additionally, even when all you needed was a pulse to get in Ross never passed students that didn't deserve to pass. Some schools pass everybody, but from what I've heard Ross has always had fair but strict passing standards. Now they are quite picky on who they accept - there just happens to be 350+ students who are qualified and many many more who apply.

-M


lolol ofcourse ross is only in business to make fine physicians, they would never admit shady characters into school just for $$.

[Locuscoeruleus22]

MCAT 21, Gpa 2.9 I'll be honest don't even bother with US schools. Go the Caribbean route. with a Gpa that low, even a 30 on the MCAT won't get you into a US school. Depend how long you're willing to wait. you could go get a masters, bring up your gpa to at least a 3.6 and retake the MCAT. But even the it's no guarantee because they're plenty of students at SGU and Ross who have masters and even PhD. Goo luck.

[HbA_Antibody]

You will be fine -- dont' take it over and don't go getting your masters either... You will have no problem getting into Ross -- I'm not being sarcastic, I'm actually being serious. Ross does like it when you take your MCAT, but it's not going to "make or break" your acceptance... What matters is your grades (which a 2.9 is okay) and your volunteer work really helps -- they like it alot. I'd be willing to bet money you'll get in without problems.

Like the Shoe says, JUST DO IT.

[Dr. MD11]

MCAT 21, Gpa 2.9 I'll be honest don't even bother with US schools. Go the Caribbean route. with a Gpa that low, even a 30 on the MCAT won't get you into a US school. Depend how long you're willing to wait. you could go get a masters, bring up your gpa to at least a 3.6 and retake the MCAT. But even the it's no guarantee because they're plenty of students at SGU and Ross who have masters and even PhD. Goo luck.


Masters won't bring up the gpa that high!!!! In addition, it will take you at least 2 years to do your masters!!!! I say it is better to apply to the top 5 schools in the CAribbean!

Peace:bored:

[Determined2bDoc]

Yes, I got an 18 and a 3.6 GPA and I got MERPed.

[alQurayshee]

2.6 GPA
27N MCAT
- way too much extracurricular activities and community service

do I have a good chance??

[mikealtmandc]

Hey don't know if you know this but....DeVry Institute bought Ross U. a couple years back. They are changing things at the school...some changes are good some really bad. I know you want M.D. after your name but ....could you live with a DeVry Institute Diploma on your office wall?

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

Hey don't know if you know this but....DeVry Institute bought Ross U. a couple years back. They are changing things at the school...some changes are good some really bad. I know you want M.D. after your name but ....could you live with a DeVry Institute Diploma on your office wall?


ummmm i HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt it will say DeVry Institute of medicine on the diploma..i believe they will stick with Ross University school of medicine.

[Shah_Patel_PT]

Hey don't know if you know this but....DeVry Institute bought Ross U. a couple years back. They are changing things at the school...some changes are good some really bad. I know you want M.D. after your name but ....could you live with a DeVry Institute Diploma on your office wall?

Although Devry bought the school...you will hear or see nothing of Devry at Ross. Ross is still independantly managed under Devry's supervision.

By the way...the diploma only says Ross University on it.

[shwin]

.............

[HocusPocus]

MCAT 21, Gpa 2.9 I'll be honest don't even bother with US schools. Go the Caribbean route. with a Gpa that low, even a 30 on the MCAT won't get you into a US school. Depend how long you're willing to wait. you could go get a masters, bring up your gpa to at least a 3.6 and retake the MCAT. But even the it's no guarantee because they're plenty of students at SGU and Ross who have masters and even PhD. Goo luck.


When you say get a masters and bring up your gpa to a 3.6, do you mean the masters gpa itself being a 3.6 or is that 3.6 the resultant of undergrad gpa and masters? If so.. I didn't know that could be done. I mean I thought your undergrad gpa was your undergrad gpa and your masters gpa was your masters, I always thought they just looked at them as 2 different gpas, not combined them. Are you sure about that?

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

When you say get a masters and bring up your gpa to a 3.6, do you mean the masters gpa itself being a 3.6 or is that 3.6 the resultant of undergrad gpa and masters? If so.. I didn't know that could be done. I mean I thought your undergrad gpa was your undergrad gpa and your masters gpa was your masters, I always thought they just looked at them as 2 different gpas, not combined them. Are you sure about that?

i think you are correct i believe the aamc uses two different gpa's..one is your undergrad(including post bacc classes) and one is your masters. i heard that DO schools combine the two into one gpa, but i'm not 100% on this.

[numb]

I'll give this a try:

GPA: 2.4 (2.3 science, 2.5 nonscience)
MCAT: 36m
1 year of clinical volunteer work at a hospital and 3 months at a homeless shelter (ongoing), no research

Any thoughts about my chances?

[HocusPocus]

umm.. your mcat is awesome but your gpa sucks. Spend some time bringing up your gpa and apply to american schools. With that mcat you'll get in anywhere. Just make sure your gpa is just as good, which shouldn't be a problem looking at your mcat score, you seem like a bright person. Good luck!

[rokshana]

umm.. your mcat is awesome but your gpa sucks. Spend some time bringing up your gpa and apply to american schools. With that mcat you'll get in anywhere. Just make sure your gpa is just as good, which shouldn't be a problem looking at your mcat score, you seem like a bright person. Good luck!

i'm sorry, but unless this guy has only 25 or 30 credits under his belt, he will not be able to get his GPA up high enough to satisfy US requirements. Plus the science GPA will be hard to get away from.

Maybe a post bacc program or a linkage program would be a better bet. The crazy high MCAT can take you only but so far... Try to find one that gives you some level of guarantee that you will get a spot in the next years class- there aren't many, but there are a few.

GL!

[simpleman1]

wow...i wish i had ur mcat....gee, are u good at std tests or what? I tell u go ahead and apply, u have a great chance at Ross, I believe, but ur GPA is def a red flag b/c it shows u r not serious about studying or something, but i am sure there are other factors that contributed to this drop of gpa. PM me if u have any questions

I'll give this a try:

GPA: 2.4 (2.3 science, 2.5 nonscience)
MCAT: 36m
1 year of clinical volunteer work at a hospital and 3 months at a homeless shelter (ongoing), no research

Any thoughts about my chances?

[numb]

Thanks for your help, HocusPocus, rokshana, and simpleman1 :)

I don't know how much I can raise my GPA, since I've completed my undergrad, and am currently taking classes at a junior college (an informal postbac). I've been getting straight As so far, but I've only completed 2 classes, and am midway through 2 more.

I guess I'm pretty good at standardized tests, but not so good with my GPA (I was in a similar but less serious situation when applying to college)...I better prepare for the inevitable questions about the GPA/MCAT discrepancy! :(

I'm hoping to matriculate in Fall of 2007 at the latest (I'm getting lots of pressure to move out), so it may be too late for me to do anything else except apply and hope for the best! Still, it's a relief to hear that I've got a great chance at Ross :)

[el_maestro]

What do you guys think? sGPA 3.2 -cGPA3.0-19M volunteered at two hosiptals, shadowed 2 doctors, involved in 2 clubs and one non-profit organization
In general I got off at a slow start (two semesters messed me up which consists of C's) but later started picking it up.....
Open to opinions?..........

[ROCKYMAN]

This simply is not true. Students have already said that there are lots of empty seats in the semester 1 classroom.

Additionally, even when all you needed was a pulse to get in Ross never passed students that didn't deserve to pass. Some schools pass everybody, but from what I've heard Ross has always had fair but strict passing standards. Now they are quite picky on who they accept - there just happens to be 350+ students who are qualified and many many more who apply.

-M

Does Ross pay you ? How dare you say "now they are quite picky". You are not on the island. There might have been a slight change in admissions criteria (speculation), but not enough to warrant a celebration. I am unimpressed with my colleagues. I do not consider crammability an intellectual achievement. My initial medical assessment is that my colleagues do not have a pulse but they are wearing an iPod, along with gang-banger clothes, or slut clothes for the girls, or excessive tattoos, or a head scarf for cheating in the exam, or streaked hair to scare a patient at the hospital, and the obligatory sandals which are dragged along the concrete from building to building in what I have named "the Ross shuffle", kind of like the Prozac shuffle, but worse. Medical students who seem to be horribly "put out" at the opportunity of getting a medical education. Freakin' whiners.

The "passing standards" are reasonable, but the stuff students do to pass is unreasonable, e.g., CRAM, CRAM, CRAM, with the occasional cheaters thrown in. There will indeed be significant attrition as long as lower than average students are accepted and inadequate resources are available on the island. The claimed lower attendance in the annex might be partially attrition in the newbies (please), clinical depression, or people watching the videos instead of going to the lectures (could explain the lack of bandwidth on internet access in the medical library, in addition to the creeps downloading porn and music to their iPods, about which an e-mail was sent to everyone a few weeks ago). Perhaps the newbies don't like the miserable and limited food selection outdoors in the heat. The annex is a depressing building, kind of like a giant "home improvement" store; somebody ought to put big price tags on all those video displays. Perhaps a Hollywood film crew will come in to photograph a scene in the annex for a video about people being "reprogrammed by Big Brother" while staring blankly at the displays. Long rows of seats for the chemically altered. Actually quite accurate, considering the people on self-medication and prescriptions. Everyone would need Foley catheters and a leg bag, though, those bathrooms for the annex look like they are in the boonies !

Please, whoever is listening, increase the admissions criteria AND the difficulty of the exams.:)
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[Water]

why close all of the doors? Even a failed med student is a better patient than a high school graduate. A failed med student is more knowledgeable and more susceptible to primary preventation. Good patient outcome for other physicians. The student contributes money to Ross. This helps it survive to continue to train those who can make it. Nothing is lost!:p

[Shah_Patel_PT]

Does Ross pay you ? How dare you say "now they are quite picky". You are not on the island. There might have been a slight change in admissions criteria (speculation), but not enough to warrant a celebration. I am unimpressed with my colleagues. I do not consider crammability an intellectual achievement. My initial medical assessment is that my colleagues do not have a pulse but they are wearing an iPod, along with gang-banger clothes, or slut clothes for the girls, or excessive tattoos, or a head scarf for cheating in the exam, or streaked hair to scare a patient at the hospital, and the obligatory sandals which are dragged along the concrete from building to building in what I have named "the Ross shuffle", kind of like the Prozac shuffle, but worse. Medical students who seem to be horribly "put out" at the opportunity of getting a medical education. Freakin' whiners.

The "passing standards" are reasonable, but the stuff students do to pass is unreasonable, e.g., CRAM, CRAM, CRAM, with the occasional cheaters thrown in. There will indeed be significant attrition as long as lower than average students are accepted and inadequate resources are available on the island. The claimed lower attendance in the annex might be partially attrition in the newbies (please), clinical depression, or people watching the videos instead of going to the lectures (could explain the lack of bandwidth on internet access in the medical library, in addition to the creeps downloading porn and music to their iPods, about which an e-mail was sent to everyone a few weeks ago). Perhaps the newbies don't like the miserable and limited food selection outdoors in the heat. The annex is a depressing building, kind of like a giant "home improvement" store; somebody ought to put big price tags on all those video displays. Perhaps a Hollywood film crew will come in to photograph a scene in the annex for a video about people being "reprogrammed by Big Brother" while staring blankly at the displays. Long rows of seats for the chemically altered. Actually quite accurate, considering the people on self-medication and prescriptions. Everyone would need Foley catheters and a leg bag, though, those bathrooms for the annex look like they are in the boonies !

Please, whoever is listening, increase the admissions criteria AND the difficulty of the exams.:)
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Welcome to medical school my friend! Although you personally may not equate "crammability" as an intelectual achievment.....the USMLE (medical boards) Do!!!!

You will see how heavily your professional sucess will depend on your board scores!!! And that's what Ross is preparing you for. You may not agree with those of us who say this...but in the future you will realize what we mean.

[jasonedward]

Hey guys,
So I just sent in my application for the May 2007 class--I hear it is easier to get accepted in May because it is less competitive. I have a 2.85 science and a 3.00 overall gpa because of a few bad semesters---and 21 MCAT. Is there anything I can do now to improved my chances and with grades like that do I even have a chance? How long will it take til I hear back from them? Im sure the wait is gonna suck...lol Thanks for any input guys.

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

Hey guys,
So I just sent in my application for the May 2007 class--I hear it is easier to get accepted in May because it is less competitive. I have a 2.85 science and a 3.00 overall gpa because of a few bad semesters---and 21 MCAT. Is there anything I can do now to improved my chances and with grades like that do I even have a chance? How long will it take til I hear back from them? Im sure the wait is gonna suck...lol Thanks for any input guys.

read the may 2007 thread to see if anyone put their stats...IMO you stand a chance, but its hard to say since NO ONE on this forum is on the admissions board...i got accepted for may 2007, even though i had applied for january 07, with somewhat similar stats. just don't screw up your interview if you get one. you will probably hear in a month or so.

if you were a science major in undergrad, chances are there isnt much you can do to improve your stats much since you probably have A LOT of credit hours as it is..so just relax and let the application process takes its course. make sure to apply to other schools also as a back up plan. hope this helps. peace

[RVakharia]

Just curious, I was wondering what is the minimum MCAT that Ross looks at in order to have a competitive application for their medical school? Currently, my GPA is a 2.2. I know it's not the greatest - but I want to have a strong score so it can support my low GPA.

Any input is appreciated.

[tpw2k]

IMO, you GPA is way to low to be considered by Ross regardless of a crazy MCAT score. If you could, I would try to raise it up to at least past 3 to be eligible and get a decent MCAT grade (24-30)

[medhopeful30]

i have about a 2.7 gpa and a 28 mcat, anyone know my chances at getting in?

[HocusPocus]

you'd probably get into Ross with those stats.

[simpleman1]

GPA 3.72
cGPA 3.81
MCAT 18/M
a couple of volunteer work at a hospital and overseas, no research.

pretty good. Had same GPA and MCAT and got in. Its wierd b/c ur data really is exactly the same as mine especially the mcat 18M, huh? anyways, good luck my friend.

[simpleman1]

also, why dont u retake the mcat and do better, then apply to US schools? Thats what people told me and I am retaking in January to see how I will do...if i do great, i will stay in the US, if not, i am off to ross in may

[POPO]

GPA 3.72
cGPA 3.81
MCAT 18/M
a couple of volunteer work at a hospital and overseas, no research.

Retake your MCAT and you could even apply in canada.

[Biobabe]

i have about a 2.7 gpa and a 28 mcat, anyone know my chances at getting in?

Possible, if you have medical expierence and a good reaason for the low GPA.

[Biobabe]

IMO, you GPA is way to low to be considered by Ross regardless of a crazy MCAT score. If you could, I would try to raise it up to at least past 3 to be eligible and get a decent MCAT grade (24-30)
I wouldn't say above 3, above 2.5....in my experience...........

[paluka]

Hi,

I just applied to Ross for fall 2007, I have a 19 Q MCAT ( first try). 3.09 science GPA and 3.13 overall GPA. I feel like I might have a chance in Ross but what do you guys think? Am I just being irrational ? I am an registered nurse with advanced life support certification and have been working for 5 years and also have a few months of volunteer experience. I was wondering if someone could give me some advice because this website seems to be filled with supportive people. Thankyou.

[simpleman1]

hey, u have a great chance, not because of your grades or scores, but because your experience in the medical field as a nurse for 5 years. They will look into that deeply and appreciate it. Dont worry, u will get in. There were people in ur situation and got in. When it comes to interview time, make sure u explain to them that u r committed!!! Good luck

[Wajaro]

Sure you have a chance. Make sure you do well on your interview!

[paluka]

Thank you so much guys, I have been having sleepless nights these replies will help me through the night. Thank you once again:)

[jasonedward]

Hey,
I have about the same stats as you...Little bit less experience, little bit higher MCATS, and about the same gpa. I just sent out my apps. Good luck!!!

[sukhtinder]

Dreams flow across the heartland
Feeding on the fires
Dreams transport desires
Drive you when you're down
Dreams transport the ones who need to get out of town

Neil Peart

[Compassion MD]

You are in.

[LDK]

Hi guys,
i will have an interview in miami next month. I have gpa 3.22 and mcat 17, a lot of volunteers, no research. Do you know anyone got in with similar stats...thank you much

[ScottsdaleIndian]

hey guys, what does "MERPed" mean?

off-topic:
So here I log on 3 months later and my random post is at the top of the forum cause a billion people visited it. . .not bad

[StarBright]

I have a 3.7 GPA and an MCAT score around 23. I read somewhere that the average GPA to get into Ross is around 22ish; however, I retook the MCAT to improve my score and did very poorly since I was sick. Will my poor score interfere with my first score? Do I still have a chance to get in? Thanks for your help!

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

hey guys, what does "MERPed" mean?

off-topic:
So here I log on 3 months later and my random post is at the top of the forum cause a billion people visited it. . .not bad

a lot of people log onto this site to get info on their chances just like you did and when they see this thread as a sticky and they go thru it, it gives them some insight, thereby reducing the "what are my chances" threads that people get soo mad about. was a good idea to make it into a sticky.

[jconlyway]

does being a chiropractor help in getting admitted. I come from a medically based chiropractic school and got out with a 2.9gpa. my cumulative gpa is a 3.1. I didnt do so hot on the mcat, 16 0, but if i'd answered four more ?'s right, i would have gotten a 19. much more respectable. I know, I know... If "if's" and "but's" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas. I had been out of organic and physics for 6 years when i took the mcat. I was hoping the fact that i've practiced as a chiro for four years would make up for my low mcat. any thots?

[isaacmn2002 ( neuro)]

i think i get the idea of some american premedical sudent getting peaky about school, Ross university does not mean u're in some kinda bondage, if u have a 3.6 even 4.0 Gpa, i don't give a crap u still get the same MD degree as a 2.8, as far as am concern Ross university professor are highly experienced than most U.S medical school professor, thus have seen some Nobel prize winners among them, considering the Gpa, have seen a 2.9 gpa get in U.s medical schools , all it all comes down to his how well did u learn the material and how good a doctor you are, a 4.o and 38 on the Mcat can do poorly in medical school as compared to a 2.8 and 22 on the Mcat, as a matter of fact the previous experience of having a low stats might be a source of motivation for the person in med school. We all have our ups and downs. Gosh if u have other thoughts about Ross u might as not apply but writing some stupid messages about it won't solve anything, if u wanna be a doctoor u might as well ge ur head straight and stop being peaky about schools

[Cyrus951]

Just curious what your college stats were upon being accepted to Ross..

Also, if you don't mind, post your college major and any extracurricular activities.

[Latina74]

32yr old female, BA Business administration, Major in Finance. 3.11 GPA, 3.62 Science GPA. 2 months of volunteer work at a children's hospital.

[uwrtank]

3.4 gpa. 34 mcats. currently majoring in bio.

[glorytome]

3.4 gpa. 34 mcats. currently majoring in bio.

R u serious...tell me u applied to US schools with that GPA and MCAT...

[Mayur999]

I have currently applied or Sept 2007
Stats: GPA: 3.46 MCAT: 27 S (Bio: 11, Phy: 11, Verb: 5 Wri: S)

Goodluck everyone!

[jasonedward]

Hi,
I just interviewed this morning in Miami and it went well. The only thing that scares me is that they calculated my gpa much lower than I anticipated. They put my science gpa at around a 2.5 and my cumulative at a 3.0. My MCAT is a 21 which they said was good....who knew. I have tons of volunteer hours, etc... My question is do you know people with these stats who have gotten accepted, MERP'ed, etc... Should I call the office every so often to check in on the status of my application? I have a feeling these next few weeks are going to be quite long! Thanks guys!

[wordman30]

You chances are better than you think. They accept tons.

[jasonedward]

btw...I applied for the May semester if that makes a difference. Thanks for any feedback!

[traumajunkie]

What are my chances?

I have a
2.8 S.Gpa
2.9 C.GPA
20 MCAT

I have been an ER RN for 3 years now
and also have alot of volunteer experience in the community clinic for the homeless, no research what are my chances?:eek:

[owleyes]

I interviewed on jan 9 and they interviewer said ~2-4 weeks.

Does anyone know what is the acceptance rate after interview?
Are our chances better because we applied early?
I have a 2.9 and a 23M, the interviewer said he'd put in a good word for me but that he wasn't too sure. i have lots of volunteer, research, and recently co-authored an abstract. Anyone been in my shoes before? This wait is killing me.. Any advice?
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[paidmydues]

I think I read somewhere on here that the acceptance rate was ~40%, but I'm not sure if that figure is pre or post interview. You might want to try a search.

Anyway, my husband had very similar stats. He had a 2.9 GPA, 3.1 Science GPA, and a 24MCAT score. He too had a lot of research experience and even co-published an entire journal article, not just the abstract...however, Ross was quick to tell him that his research accomplishments were of little consequence to his acceptance, because Ross is not a research institute. Still, I'm sure it counts for something. Anyway, needless to say he got in, so I'm confident you'll be accepted as well. Good Luck!!!

[sarahtarah]

if the interviewer said he'd put in a good word thats usually a good sign.

good luck dont freak.

apply to other schools just in case

[Aslam_RossMD]

Got into Ross yesterday, GPA 3.2 MCAT 20-O,
I know the MCAT is low, but I crushed the interview, lots of research and volunteer experience at major hospitals, ** in Biomedical Engineering at Case Western Reserve University, (BME is ranked 4 in the USA there)

[Biobabe]

2.91 overall GPA, 3.45 Science GPA, 22N MCAT. ** in Liberal Arts
10 years in the medical field as a X-ray tech, pharmacy tech, and hemodialysis tech.

[Biobabe]

Hi,
I just interviewed this morning in Miami and it went well. The only thing that scares me is that they calculated my gpa much lower than I anticipated. They put my science gpa at around a 2.5 and my cumulative at a 3.0. My MCAT is a 21 which they said was good....who knew. I have tons of volunteer hours, etc... My question is do you know people with these stats who have gotten accepted, MERP'ed, etc... Should I call the office every so often to check in on the status of my application? I have a feeling these next few weeks are going to be quite long! Thanks guys!
Call, call, call.
The admissions commitee meets every Wednesday Ive been told. I called every Wednesday and otherwise wouldn't have known yet! I interview Dec 5th but apparently my acceptance letter got lost in the mail, still haven't recieved it.:confused: Thank god I called every week!!!

[Biobabe]

I interviewed on jan 9 and they interviewer said ~2-4 weeks.

Does anyone know what is the acceptance rate after interview?
Are our chances better because we applied early?
I have a 2.9 and a 23M, the interviewer said he'd put in a good word for me but that he wasn't too sure. i have lots of volunteer, research, and recently co-authored an abstract. Anyone been in my shoes before? This wait is killing me.. Any advice?
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My 2.9 and 22N got me in :)
But call the office you interviewed with because they forget about us sometimes. Oh, and try to relax, I only applied to Ross so I know your stress.

[gglox]

I'm a second semester here. Averages for MCAT are slightly above 7 across the board and average GPA is 3.15 (about that). Admissions into the PACE program is MCAT 25 or above and GPA 3.2. Once in the school to get into pace you need a 3.5 or above in your classes after your first semester.

[iva]

What is the PACE program?

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

What is the PACE program?

from what the above poster writes, i think its the scholars program where students don't attend class. they watch lectures and study on their own. I've read somewhere, i think on this site, that you can ask to be placed in the program after your first semester and i think the person above is referring to the requirements to enter it.

[ydobon]

from what the above poster writes, i think its the scholars program where students don't attend class. they watch lectures and study on their own. I've read somewhere, i think on this site, that you can ask to be placed in the program after your first semester and i think the person above is referring to the requirements to enter it.

Pace = Scholars. You can attend classes if you wish or watch them over the net. You've still got Problem Based Learning and Gross Anatomy to attend.

[hspivey]

Scottsdale Indian, I am a 32 year old white male, just graduated with a 3.1 GPA, 2.9 Science GPA and a 24Q MCAT. I spent 4 years in the Air Force, have been a CT tech for the last twelve years (concurrent with my military service) and was a pharmacy tech for two years before that. I have a couple of volunteer experiences per year for the last 10 years (or so), and I am in for the May '07 class. General GPA, science GPA and obviously MCAT scores count the most. Volunteer experience I think (while necessary) really seem to be more of a separating factor for lower ranked applicants. I may be wrong, but I have yet to hear about anybody with a 2.4 GPA and 10,000 hours of volunteering getting into med school. Not to play the race card, but I don't know of a lot of American Indians that try to get into medical school, so if your stats are a little on the low side (which is why I assume you are looking at Caribbean schools), you should really try to go for American schools. Your race will definitely count for the schools trying to keep their affirmative action statistics high (which is all of them). I'm sure everybody is going to jump my butt for making that comment, but it is something that you should use to your advantage if your name correctly implies your heritage. Good luck to you!

[harsy]

Hi
I keep reading on this forum that the # of clinical spots in the states are way less than the # of students ross takes in every year,so they basically weed ppl out.Does anyone know exactly how many clinical spots they have?

[druzy]

this msg is for any current ross student that can help me out, im a college student in houston and i went to st christophers for a semester, and by now i think everywun and their mamas noes what happened there, ne ways im doin my bachelors before i try med school again, and i was just wondering how competitive this school really is, unfortunatly my gen chem/bio grades are not fantastic, but everything else is okay, im pullin about 3.2 rt now with 3 semesters left in college, in knowing other students at ross, what kind of chance would you give me, amongst other advice if possible, thanks a lot appreciate it

[tik-tik-clock]

a 2.7, and a 26 MCAT

Anyone give me a general idea please?

[DOCplucinski]

a 2.7, and a 26 MCAT

Anyone give me a general idea please?

you'll get an interview

[preintermed]

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[Dru]

I said it before, and I'll say it again...I don't think misdemeanor offenses will keep you out. I think they are more interested if you are a felon or child molestor....otherwise, I think your stats look OK.

[preintermed]

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[Carlota321]

I do not believe a misdemeanor will affect your licensing or getting a visa. If you had a feloney, that would severely affect you. Good luck and stay off the telephone!;)

[chubee_85]

Well hi guys, I'm dominican - the place where ross is located. Um i applied to ross with a 3.0 g.p.a overall and a 3.48 cum. i graduated from andrews university extension campus in trinidad so i did go to an american school for undergrads, i didnt get a chance to do MCATS since its not offered in the caribbean so i was allowed to apply without it. however i got MERPed i guess because my g.p.a didnt have the mcats to back me up. my interview kinda sucked bcuz my mother had died the very same morning of my interview and i didnt know i could postpone it so i went... um well the good thing about being dominican is that we all get full scholarship including all except housing paid for, so thats one loan i dont have to worry about. anyhow hopefully ill be starting in sept 07. with my luck however i got offered a scholarship to go to Loma Linda school of medicine in cali. to do my PhD in Anatomy which is what i want to specialize but i place dit on hold to get my MD done first then move on to that since i want the MD/PhD. good luck to u all

[ScottsdaleIndian]

Scottsdale Indian, I am a 32 year old white male, just graduated with a 3.1 GPA, 2.9 Science GPA and a 24Q MCAT. I spent 4 years in the Air Force, have been a CT tech for the last twelve years (concurrent with my military service) and was a pharmacy tech for two years before that. I have a couple of volunteer experiences per year for the last 10 years (or so), and I am in for the May '07 class. General GPA, science GPA and obviously MCAT scores count the most. Volunteer experience I think (while necessary) really seem to be more of a separating factor for lower ranked applicants. I may be wrong, but I have yet to hear about anybody with a 2.4 GPA and 10,000 hours of volunteering getting into med school. Not to play the race card, but I don't know of a lot of American Indians that try to get into medical school, so if your stats are a little on the low side (which is why I assume you are looking at Caribbean schools), you should really try to go for American schools. Your race will definitely count for the schools trying to keep their affirmative action statistics high (which is all of them). I'm sure everybody is going to jump my butt for making that comment, but it is something that you should use to your advantage if your name correctly implies your heritage. Good luck to you!

Cool, well I'm not American Indian, my parents are from India, the country. Honestly I don't know where you grew up to associate the word "med-school" with native american indians, in stead of Asian Indians, but what were the chances of you coming across an actual Native American on a ValueMD message boards trying to get into a Carrib med school. Hmm. . .I hope there aren't any reading this. . .

[rokshana]

Cool, well I'm not American Indian, my parents are from India, the country. Honestly I don't know where you grew up to associate the word "med-school" with native american indians, in stead of Asian Indians, but what were the chances of you coming across an actual Native American on a ValueMD message boards trying to get into a Carrib med school. Hmm. . .I hope there aren't any reading this. . .

eh, i could see the connection- scottsdale, i think arizona and then indian, so... plus you would be better off being native american than asian indian (i mean, i'm thinkin' finally! i can use my minority status! and then boom! over-represented!!!) since we make up 12% of the med school pop, but less that 2% of the gen pop!!

[gentlegiant3]

3.2 GPA studying for the mcat right now, but I got a 19 on the DAT so I hope I will do well on the mcat as well, any ideas?

[n3rd]

3.34 GPA
NCAA Sports, + numerous ec activities
Lots of volunteering, and shadowing in different areas of health care.

Do I stand a shot?

I haven't taken the MCAT yet and still need about 30 liberal arts courses to graduate. GPA will likely go up. What should My target MCAT be?

[ekimsurfer]

Taken into account just the few things you have posted...a 35 and you won't have to go to Ross. If Ross is your goal, a 22/23 would be solid enough to get you in.

[ausmil]

I currently have a bachelors in Philosophy, with all the premed pre-reqs done. My overall is a 3.5 and my science is a 3.3. I have tons of hospital time, shadowing, service, a published paper, etc.. The downfall is that I I have a 15R MCAT. I know that sucks. I plan on retaking it, but I was just curious with that score what my chances are?

[Carlota321]

There is already a thread like this one so please do some research at that post first and then ask your "what are my chances" questions there along with everyone else.

[DOCplucinski]

I currently have a bachelors in Philosophy, with all the premed pre-reqs done. My overall is a 3.5 and my science is a 3.3. I have tons of hospital time, shadowing, service, a published paper, etc.. The downfall is that I I have a 15R MCAT. I know that sucks. I plan on retaking it, but I was just curious with that score what my chances are?

I know that you're new but you shouldn't post the same thing on multiple threads, people get angry...for me, i don't mind helping newbies.

I have a friend that was applying to Ross around the same time I did for the January semester (January and May semesters at Ross aren't as competitive as September). Anyway, he had really good grades, 3.9 I think and like a 3.8 science. Well he had a 15 P on the MCAT, I'm not sure what happened, he never told me. He got denied and requested MERP but they told him that MERP was not a program for him since he obviously mastered coursework science classes.

So I suggest, as others to retake the MCAT then consider your options.

[brob311]

I see you are fishing in different watering holes (med schools) and seeing if any fish are going to bite. Schools that require an MCAT will probably not take a 15. However a good friend of mine at Ross made a 17 TWICE and he's making mainly A's and a few B's, so it is not impossible. It is no easy task making A's at Ross either. He had a 3.95 in micro at a large univ. 15 is really low though, I would retake the MCAT, or if your impatient, apply to a school that doesn't require an MCAT.

[rokshana]

i noticed the same thing as well- shouldn't this be consolidated and posted to the main med school forum, since the OP wants more general info.

[thesurgeon1]

Hey guys

id also like an opinion on my chances


2.8GPA
will be taking the MCAT in April, but I do expect more than 20 for sure

1 academic scholarship (2000$) for 3rd year grades
2 years of clinical experience as a research student
1 major publication in the American Journal of Cardiology
1 case study on heart failure submitted for publication

[DOCplucinski]

Hey guys

id also like an opinion on my chances


2.8GPA
will be taking the MCAT in April, but I do expect more than 20 for sure

1 academic scholarship (2000$) for 3rd year grades
2 years of clinical experience as a research student
1 major publication in the American Journal of Cardiology
1 case study on heart failure submitted for publication

25+ should compensate for the gpa

[nextdoc]

Hey guys, i am new here and i was just wondering what are my chances if i have 3.17 cgpa and 2.9 sgpa i am taking the mcat in june i applied for september2007 about 2 1/2 weeks ago got a postcard and haven't heard anything since. what score do i need to get on the mcat in order to have a chance?

[medchick999]

how much emphasis does ross put on where you went to undergrad? i'm asking b/c i graduated from a top ten school, but not with the best stats...

overall GPA - 3.1
science - 2.8
mcat - 21Q

what do you guys think? any help would be much appreciated! thanks

[preintermed]

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[monsoon338]

Hi,

My stats are:

2.9 Cum GPA
31 MCAT
Chemical Engineering Bachelors
Lots of Volunteering

What do you think are my chances?

[vaneleus]

Hi,

My stats are:

2.9 Cum GPA
31 MCAT
Chemical Engineering Bachelors
Lots of Volunteering

What do you think are my chances?


Nice MCAT. You shouldn't have any trouble, but there's only one way to find out.

[Shadowstar]

2.9 Cumulative
2.8 Science
15O MCAT (2 in verbal, 6 PS, 7 **)
B.S. in Biology
Currently in pharmacy school (2nd year), cum gpa pharmacy: 2.25
Just had my interview today, it went pretty ok (not great but ok).

My interviewer said they'd get back to me in about 2 weeks.

I applied for May, think I have a chance waitlisted till sept or merp in april at least?

[jade909]

I will come to Ross in this Sep. Are you truely satisfied with your experience with Ross, i mean, in terms of the tuition, teaching quality, outlook of your career in the U.S.? I started to question myself if it will work for me. I know it's too late now for me to change my mind because I already paid $1000 deposit. I just want to be more convinced by people like who went through and did not regret about this tough choice. In your mind, what qualities of ross students are competitive with students in the states? Do you need to be super good and nearly perfect in order to survive for competing with students in the states? Or as long as you pass everything in ross, you'll have the future in the U.S.?

[pruner002]

I recently just applied for the fall 2007 class, my stats are: 3.6 GPA and a 23M on the MCATs. What are my chances? Also, for those of you that have got accepted for the fall what are your stats that got you in.

[islandthrift]

There is already a thread for this quesion but I would say you wouldn't have to worry too much ;)

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

retake MCAT and apply to US schools...why do i say this? cause ur stats are good enough for Ross so work on it for US schools

[UGAThug]

Your stats will get you into Ross easily. But really I would apply to SABA, SGU, AUC, or SMU. Ross really isn't worth it because it's full of political nonsense which makes it a environment prone to induce hatred towards fellow classmates and the world.

[MusicalDoc]

Hello! I'm new here. I have yet to send in my application to Ross -- I've been contemplating this for quite some time now, since I wasn't sure whether my stats were good enough:

overall GPA: 3.7
science GPA: 3.9
MCAT (most recent): 25R

Is it too late to apply for the September 2007 term, you think? Anyone?...

[islandthrift]

Please please please do yourself a favor and retake the MCAT! With that GPA, especially the sciencs, if you get a few more points you can have your pick of US med schools! If you do not want to retake the MCAT, I would not worry about admissions to Ross. :bestwishes:


Hello! I'm new here. I have yet to send in my application to Ross -- I've been contemplating this for quite some time now, since I wasn't sure whether my stats were good enough:

overall GPA: 3.7
science GPA: 3.9
MCAT (most recent): 25R

Is it too late to apply for the September 2007 term, you think? Anyone?...

[blaze1984]

Hello! I'm new here. I have yet to send in my application to Ross -- I've been contemplating this for quite some time now, since I wasn't sure whether my stats were good enough:

overall GPA: 3.7
science GPA: 3.9
MCAT (most recent): 25R

Is it too late to apply for the September 2007 term, you think? Anyone?...

well I applied in late July for the September semester and got wait listed... they eventually bumped me to the January semester... So i'm pretty sure you should still be able to get in to September... with your stats, they should take you easily. Also, consider retaking your MCATs and try to apply to a US school... if you can avoid the rock, you should :) -- (it's not soo bad down here)

[MusicalDoc]

Thanks, islandthrift, for your response (not to mention the cute icon at the end of your post!). Right now, though, my options are pretty limited: either US DO schools or the Carib MD schools with the current stats. Although I appreciate your suggestion for me to retake the MCAT, I seriously doubt it'll do me any good, since I have taken it multiple times (too ashamed to say exactly how many times), all in the mid-20s...*sigh*...

Anyway, I found your words encouraging -- THANKS!

[MusicalDoc]

Thanks, blaze1984, for your response as well. I find your words also encouraging. I JUST had a thought...do you, islandthrift, or anyone out there think that the multiple mediocre MCAT scores will keep me out of Ross?... I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. Thanks!

[islandthrift]

It shouldn't keep you out of Ross because I've had multiple MCAT scores in the lower 20's! You should have your choice of carib med schools!

[Shadowstar]

Thanks, blaze1984, for your response as well. I find your words also encouraging. I JUST had a thought...do you, islandthrift, or anyone out there think that the multiple mediocre MCAT scores will keep me out of Ross?... I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. Thanks!

With those stats, you should be able to make Ross without any problems.

[MusicalDoc]

Thanks, islandthrift and Shadowstar, for your input - I hope you two are right! I suppose I'll just have to wait and see how it'll all play out in the end...

[dlev]

What is the GPA cut-off for an applicant to be considered by Admissions at Ross University?

[john-doe]

i dont think there is a cut off, but prob need at least a 2.5 or above to even have a chance i think.

[civicmd]

What are my chances?

GPA 3.25
science GPA 3.1
Major: Bioengineering
MCAT 22P
Plenty volunteer work at hospital, hospice, and community centers
as well as 1 year of research experience.

Please let me know.

Thanks

[Dru]

The last stat cut-off's I heard were 2.9 for general and science GPA and 21 on the MCAT and positive LOR's and activities....BUT it's been a while, so what are the latest stat cut-off's.

[Shadowstar]

What are my chances?

GPA 3.25
science GPA 3.1
Major: Bioengineering
MCAT 22P
Plenty volunteer work at hospital, hospice, and community centers
as well as 1 year of research experience.

Please let me know.

Thanks



You should be ok...I know you'll get at least merp. Try and rock the interview...oh and do you have a **? A ** would look really nice on that app. But otherwise...everything looks good...I'd say you have a good chance at Ross.

[islandthrift]

I can't remember my science GPA off hand but mine was a drop lower than the cut off you posted Dru. My total GPA was a 3.0 and my Mcat was a 23 (I don't remember the letter). I also had a lot of extra curricular activities. If you have a unique story about how you became interested in medicine or how you helped someone, they really like those. I was an EMT-cc in NY prior to coming down here and on vacation one time, I ended up resusitating someone in respiratory arrest on the plane ride TO vacation (talk about starting a nice relaxing vacation with chaos!). The airlines wrote me a letter of thank you and I brought that with me to the interview. They really liked that. This is my example of a unique event so if you have one, share it with your interviewer!

[SGMD1]

Hi everyone...I just submitted my app to Ross today for Fall '07 after getting my final rejection letter yesterday from a US school I was holding out hope for.

Cumulative/Science GPA: 2.7
MCAT: 25Q
Extensive research, volunteering, shadowing, extra-curriculars.
Illinois resident

I'm sure you're wondering why I bothered with US schools in the first place, but I was holding out hope for my hometown school where I had a few loose connections. At least they gave me a courtesy interview :roll:

I'll keep you all posted on my progress...my app probably won't be complete for two weeks anyway since I need to get my recommendations sent down there...I know my GPA is pretty low but I'm hoping the MCAT score will compensate...wish me luck

[MusicalDoc]

Hi, SGMD1.

I'm on the same boat as you -- my MCAT => 25R, and I submitted my application just last Saturday, hoping to get into the September 2007 term.

Good luck to you, SGMD1, and may we both get accepted! :)


MusicalDoc

[SGMD1]

Hi, SGMD1.

I'm on the same boat as you -- my MCAT => 25R, and I submitted my application just last Saturday, hoping to get into the September 2007 term.

Good luck to you, SGMD1, and may we both get accepted! :)


MusicalDoc
LOL you're definitely not in the same boat as me with that 3.9 GPA!!! You're pretty much a shoo-in. Honestly, if I were you I'd retake the MCAT because you'd have an amazing shot at US schools.

But thanks for the wishes and good luck to you too!

[qechan2003]

Hello there. I’m a new user and I’m finishing my final quarter to get my ** in Biochem. At of the UC campus. My cumulative GPA is currently 2.83. :confused: I would like to ask for opinions of what my chances are for Ross. I have not taken the MCAT yet but will plan to do so in a couple of months. :rolleyes: Do you know how the schools calculate our GPA, do they take into account our science or overall GPA. It would help me a lot if you would kindly reply with your honest opinions. Also how did you guys study for the MCAT? Self-directed studies, took a review course with Kaplan or Princeton, and numbers of hours dedicated? Any tips would be appreciated. Thank you so much and have a great day everybody. :p

[surfermd]

Before anyone blasts you for asking that banned question (very common question on this site) I'll give you a straight answer. First of all, there are many factors that go into consideration when applying to med school. It's obvious that gpa and mcat are a big factor, but letters of recommendation and essays also play a role. With a gpa like that, my suggestion would be to redeem yourself with the mcat. I would suggest aiming for a score in the high 20s...like a 26 or above to compensate for the low gpa. Also, make sure you find somewhere in your essay to explain your gpa. As far as studying for the mcat, that really depends on you. I scored a 28 by just getting some study books at barnes and noble and studying on my own time. I would say I studied a good 2 hrs a day (4 hrs each on Fri and Sat) for 3 months. But again, that all depends on you. Hope this helped!

[qechan2003]

thanks surfermd, and sorry for putting out this redundant post. so don't blast me senior posters!;) It's just that I needed to get it off my chest..

[phisigman03]

what are you people thinking why don't you apply to somewhere else. Don't worry abt getting in at Ross be glad if they turn you down.

[gohoyas]

ok. interviewed, wondering for Sep 2007.
3.04 overall/2.3 science from top 10 undergrad
3.02 law school gpa from top 15 law school
40T.
possible to still get rejected?

[SGMD1]

ok. interviewed, wondering for Sep 2007.
3.04 overall/2.3 science from top 10 undergrad
3.02 law school gpa from top 15 law school
40T.
possible to still get rejected?
did you work after undergrad by chance? or are law schools more forgiving of bad undergrad gpa's?

[gohoyas]

no work. have been doing research this past year. but well, the grades were really bad in a couple classes--physics, and orgo, which i retook. and as for law schools, they forgive your 2.6 science gpa if you have a 3.6 gpa in everything else and you rock the lsat.
i'm hoping that the mcat serves as my most recent science "grade" since it does cover all those requirements.

so--chances?
it seems like 2.9 science/28 will get you in...not 2.6/40?

[blaze1984]

no work. have been doing research this past year. but well, the grades were really bad in a couple classes--physics, and orgo, which i retook. and as for law schools, they forgive your 2.6 science gpa if you have a 3.6 gpa in everything else and you rock the lsat.
i'm hoping that the mcat serves as my most recent science "grade" since it does cover all those requirements.

so--chances?
it seems like 2.9 science/28 will get you in...not 2.6/40?


you should not have any problems getting in... people in my class have had similar GPAs with about 15 points lower on the MCATs... btw, G-town is not a top 10 college :) USNews.com: America's Best Colleges 2007: National Universities: Top Schools (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php) all the way down at 23...

[Shadowstar]

ok. interviewed, wondering for Sep 2007.
3.04 overall/2.3 science from top 10 undergrad
3.02 law school gpa from top 15 law school
40T.
possible to still get rejected?


Wow thats a crazy mcat score...and being in law school will definitely help your application in such a way as to demonstrate your intellectual capacity...but that low science gpa could be an indicator that you need a stronger science background. Yes law school is tough and probably every bit as demanding as med school, but they are two completely different fields and you learn completely different things. But again, your mcat score shows you have mastered the sciences...I think they'll at least give you merp.

[longlashes]

I graduated from the University of California, Davis back in 2005. My cGPA is 2.92 and science is probably 2.8. I failed two courses in college but made them up with passing grades. I also had 2 Ds. Ever since graduating from college I have been taking classes at a JC. My first semester at JC I got a 4.0. I took 4 classes that semester-Anatomy and Physiology I, Ochem II, Biological Psychology, and Anatomy and Physiology II. My second semester I took one class and got a C (Animal Bio). My third semester I took one class (Microbio) and got a B. I took the MCAT and got a 23. I have been volunteering at soup kitchens, covalescent homes and is in the process of applying for a volunteer position at a hospital. I want to apply to Caribbean medical school for the May term. What do you think my chances are at AUC, Ross, St.George, Saba? Thanks!

[Shadowstar]

If you graduated then I'm assuming you have a B.S? If so then that would help your application alot. Other than that...I'd say go ahead and apply to Ross at least. Ross is more forgiving than the other schools (maybe at the same level as AUC). St. Georges and SABA are pretty tough to get into now. Hopefully you'd get at least merp for Ross...I think you just might with those stats. Try to really impress them at the interview if you can.

[RossMD2006]

I graduated from the University of California, Davis back in 2005. My cGPA is 2.92 and science is probably 2.8. I failed two courses in college but made them up with passing grades. I also had 2 Ds. Ever since graduating from college I have been taking classes at a JC. My first semester at JC I got a 4.0. I took 4 classes that semester-Anatomy and Physiology I, Ochem II, Biological Psychology, and Anatomy and Physiology II. My second semester I took one class and got a C (Animal Bio). My third semester I took one class (Microbio) and got a B. I took the MCAT and got a 23. I have been volunteering at soup kitchens, covalescent homes and is in the process of applying for a volunteer position at a hospital. I want to apply to Caribbean medical school for the May term. What do you think my chances are at AUC, Ross, St.George, Saba? Thanks!

Longlashes,

If I was on the committee, I would be thinking the following. Your undergrad gpa is low, but I see you took some basic science classes after graduation (which is good). It's good to take classes in subjects you will be taking in med school (like biochemistry, physio, pathology, microbiology, pharmacology<--the ones most students have problems with) and do well on them.

I would ask you why you took one class in one semester and not more? I see you took one class in 2nd semester and got a C. 3rd semester you took one class and got a B. All of this after having taken 4 classes in difficult subjects in the first semester and receiving a 4.0. You may have to explain that. I would want to know if you are prepared for the medical science curriculum at Ross. You have demonstrated you can handle a full load of courses in your first semester of JC. However, the 2nd and 3rd semester may be a red flag. Are you taking anymore classes in JC?

Your MCAT is alright for acceptance into Ross, maybe on the lower end.

Go ahead and apply. If it was me I would only apply to SGU or Ross. If you want to apply to AUC and SABA, go ahead. I dont know how the admissions process is like in regards to AUC and SABA, so I wouldnt be able to tell you what your chances are. Apply to all, if you get into SGU and can afford the higher tuition then do it. If it was me, I would go to either Ross or SGU.

Good luck

[phisigman03]

No problem getting into Ross because they'll take anyone. A little difficulty with SGU maybe SABA then again maybe not.
If the previous two decline your application you can always fall back on Ross.

[longlashes]

Hello all,

Thank you all for your comments and encouragement. I have another question. If I repeat a course, will Ross allow me to calculate my repeated grade or will they average the two grades? If they average the two grades, then my GPA will be lower than a 2.92 :oops:.

[Shadowstar]

On your application only the newer grade will show but once your transcript arives at their office they will calculate your gpas and average out everything unfortunately. At the interview the interviewer will be looking at your gpas...make sure to tell him/her that you retook those classes and scored better on them, that'll help alot. Every little bit helps.

[otanis]

hey guys any feedback on my stats would be greatly appreciated:

science gpa 3.1
overall 3.3
mcat 23P

Tons of ECs and Volunteering like founder and president of Asian American Association, implementing a general elective course to combat obesity and diabetes through healthier lifestyles, and your typical hospital volunteering and shadowing.

Strong LORs

[RossMD2006]

hey guys any feedback on my stats would be greatly appreciated:

science gpa 3.1
overall 3.3
mcat 23P

Tons of ECs and Volunteering like founder and president of Asian American Association, implementing a general elective course to combat obesity and diabetes through healthier lifestyles, and your typical hospital volunteering and shadowing.

Strong LORs

good chance go ahead and apply.

[DayMD]

2.7-2.8 GPA and a 27 on the mcat and some volunteer work

[DayMD]

What are my chances?

[Shadowstar]

Nice mcat...gpa is a bit on the low side...you'll probably get merp at least though. Do you have a **? If so that would help, also some good volunteer/shadowing experiences will work in your favor. Should get merp though.

[don1]

I agree; you may get into meds if you have some grades that are holding back your overall gpa. for example, if you did poorly for your first half of education but pulled your socks up later on you will likely get in.

you should for sure apply.

Nice mcat...gpa is a bit on the low side...you'll probably get merp at least though. Do you have a **? If so that would help, also some good volunteer/shadowing experiences will work in your favor. Should get merp though.

[04shaikj]

Hey everyone,

Your feedback is amazing and it is really helping. I go to U of T and am doing a Neuroscience specialist Honours degree. In my 1st year I had an 80% course load and a cGPA of 3.05. My 2nd year was extremely rough with a full 100% course load and cGPA of 2.6. However, maintaining a full course load, I have worked hard in my 3rd year obtaining a GPA of 3.26 in the 1st semester and 3.4 in the 2nd semester bringing my cGPA to 2.9. By 4th year, I can bring it up to 3.0 and above. However, I have heard that med schools don't look at your 4th year but only up until the 3rd year when you apply. It is critical for me that they look at my 4th year it so that I can show them that from 3rd year and onwards I have definitely shown improvement. I want to get into med school in Ross or the other top 4 for Fall 2008. Do you think that they will look at my 4th year marks and notice the improvement? I am also taking the Kaplan MCAT course and am registered for the August exam and understand that my chances will increase if I excel on the MCAT. Can you also tell me what MERPed means and what is a science GPA (is it the GPA for all the science courses you have until now or the GPA of the prerequisite science courses the Med school wants)?

[trb_5]

3.4 with 30 mcat :confused: but its a BA not a **

[stateofequilibrium]

3.4 with 30 mcat :confused: but its a BA not a **

You should be trying for a US med school.

[islandthrift]

Hey everyone,

Your feedback is amazing and it is really helping. I go to U of T and am doing a Neuroscience specialist Honours degree. In my 1st year I had an 80% course load and a cGPA of 3.05. My 2nd year was extremely rough with a full 100% course load and cGPA of 2.6. However, maintaining a full course load, I have worked hard in my 3rd year obtaining a GPA of 3.26 in the 1st semester and 3.4 in the 2nd semester bringing my cGPA to 2.9. By 4th year, I can bring it up to 3.0 and above. However, I have heard that med schools don't look at your 4th year but only up until the 3rd year when you apply. It is critical for me that they look at my 4th year it so that I can show them that from 3rd year and onwards I have definitely shown improvement. I want to get into med school in Ross or the other top 4 for Fall 2008. Do you think that they will look at my 4th year marks and notice the improvement? I am also taking the Kaplan MCAT course and am registered for the August exam and understand that my chances will increase if I excel on the MCAT. Can you also tell me what MERPed means and what is a science GPA (is it the GPA for all the science courses you have until now or the GPA of the prerequisite science courses the Med school wants)?

If you can get around mid 20's on your MCATs you have a good shot at Ross.

[Shadowstar]

Hey everyone,

Your feedback is amazing and it is really helping. I go to U of T and am doing a Neuroscience specialist Honours degree. In my 1st year I had an 80% course load and a cGPA of 3.05. My 2nd year was extremely rough with a full 100% course load and cGPA of 2.6. However, maintaining a full course load, I have worked hard in my 3rd year obtaining a GPA of 3.26 in the 1st semester and 3.4 in the 2nd semester bringing my cGPA to 2.9. By 4th year, I can bring it up to 3.0 and above. However, I have heard that med schools don't look at your 4th year but only up until the 3rd year when you apply. It is critical for me that they look at my 4th year it so that I can show them that from 3rd year and onwards I have definitely shown improvement. I want to get into med school in Ross or the other top 4 for Fall 2008. Do you think that they will look at my 4th year marks and notice the improvement? I am also taking the Kaplan MCAT course and am registered for the August exam and understand that my chances will increase if I excel on the MCAT. Can you also tell me what MERPed means and what is a science GPA (is it the GPA for all the science courses you have until now or the GPA of the prerequisite science courses the Med school wants)?

They will definitely look at your 4th year. Whatever grades are on the transcript that you send them, they will look at it and calculate your total and science gpas. When I went to the interview, my interviewer had my transcript right in front of him with ALL my grades, and my calculated science and cum gpa. Science gpa is the gpa of all your science classes. Trust me when I say, they look at EVERYTHING.

Merp is a 3 month premed prep program they give to borderline students. If you're on the borderline but show potential they enroll you in the program and if you pass you get automatic entrance into the island the following semester.

Good luck with the mcat...seems your application is decent from what you have listed so far...if you do well on the mcat, you're golden. Just give kaplan your all and you should be good to go.

[Queensstudent]

Hi, I'm new to the board. As my name says, I'm from Queens in Kingston, Ontario. I completed an honours degree in Biology (cellular+molecular biology), but also completing a lifesciences degree in May 2008. This is a common question and its great there is a thread devoted to it. What are my chances with these stats:
- accumulative GPA - 3.6
- upper year science GPA - 3.9

My GPA is first year was fairly low (just above three) and consisted namely of general sciences; furthermore I failed a single 1/2 credit course in first year. 2nd year was somewhat better with a GPA of 3.38.
But my third and fourth year GPAs were 3.83 and 3.94 respectively and consisted solely of medical science courses (go figure the transition).

I have still to write the MCAT, which I'm sitting for in August. I have an abundance of extracurriculars in my resume, so I am happy with those.
Can I get an honest assessment

[islandthrift]

If you were from the US I'd tell you that you're a perfect candidate for a US med school. As for Canada, I know it's much harder to get into Med school there but with your stats have you thought of trying? As for Ross, I'd say you're in.

[Queensstudent]

Its a possibility of applying...but that failing grade kills me. Also in 1st and 2nd year I only took an 80% course load. 3rd and 4th year I took full course loads + then some.

How does the GPA scale work for caribbean med schools?
I'm assuming all marks above 80% or A, are considered 4.0 out of a 4.0 scale.

[mike james]

queensstudent u have competitive stats for north american schools, i'd really suggest just getting that top mcat score

[flesheater]

Hi wondering my chances for the next starting semester as well as Spring 08.
I have a ** in Information Technology from American InterContinental University. Graduated with a 4.0- Summa Cum Laude.
Took some med school pre-reqs from community college, maintained 4.0 with full-time course load and full-time job.
Took remainder of pre-reqs at 2 universities, part-time course load, and have a total of 3 **, the rest all As. The ** were all in science pre-reqs though. That gives me a total gpa of about 3.8.
Have shadowing and hospital paid work and volunteer experience.
Made 23O on MCAT last August, am scheduled to retake in July this summer. Applied to local state MD school and was rejected w/o interview.
I am a little older than traditional student and married with children.
So what do ya think? ;) Thanks!

[Shadowstar]

You're definitely competitive for Ross if all your prereq science and math classes are completed. Your mcat isn't shabby for Ross either. Only thing I'd be looking for in your application would be where you took your prereq classes at...if its a good accredited university then you're golden.

[rokshana]

Hi wondering my chances for the next starting semester as well as Spring 08.
I have a ** in Information Technology from American InterContinental University. Graduated with a 4.0- Summa Cum Laude.
Took some med school pre-reqs from community college, maintained 4.0 with full-time course load and full-time job.
Took remainder of pre-reqs at 2 universities, part-time course load, and have a total of 3 **, the rest all As. The ** were all in science pre-reqs though. That gives me a total gpa of about 3.8.
Have shadowing and hospital paid work and volunteer experience.
Made 23O on MCAT last August, am scheduled to retake in July this summer. Applied to local state MD school and was rejected w/o interview.
I am a little older than traditional student and married with children.
So what do ya think? ;) Thanks!


get the mcat up to a 30 and apply to US schools- apply to offshore as back up and if you don't get in, THEN go down there- but if your MCAT was competitive- you should have a good shot at a US school.

[ILPsychDoc]

Question: Does Ross average graduate GPA with Undergraduate? I hope so...

Another Question: Is the science GPA the same as the AAMCAS science GPA or do they count upper level math courses as well (ie. advanced stats).

Thanks!

[PHARMDMD]

Hello all,
I'm new to this website. I was wondering of my chances with my profile: BA in Chem. (3.2 GPA), PharmD (Doctor of Pharmacy) with GPA of 3.3, Practicing at Mayo Medical Center, with a poor scores in the MCAT of 16 quite embarassing. Anyway feedback would be appreciated.

[islandthrift]

Your GPA looks good and Ross does not wiegh the MCAT as heavily as other schools do. In addition, they do like students that already have some experience in a medical field. Good Luck!

[fkajoshaj]

Hey guys, I currently graduated SJU with a 3.01 overall gpa. I majored in bio and minored in chem. I am to take princeton review for my mcat. With my current gpa, what mcat score should grant me admission to Ross? I am also a certified EMT, but I have yet to work as one. But if i added in my resume that i took a 2.5 month EMT course last summer, show any kind of motivation? (I spent my summer doing something extra instead of enjoyin myself)? If someone can answer my questions id greatly appreciate it. Thank you.


-Fred

[islandthrift]

Try to aim for a score around 25 on the MCAT. Also, join a volunteer EMS agency and put your skills to use. If nothing else, volunteer at a hospital near you. Look for an EMS agency that is JUST EMS and not Fire and EMS which would cut down on the amount of training time you need to do before you can go on calls. This will show a continued interest in medicine. Good Luck!

[Wajaro]

IMHO I would concentrate on the MCAT and forget about the EMT thing for right now. As far as what MCAT score you need to get in to ROSS, I can't really say, people have gotten in with 12 and there are people there with 35. I would say after you take the MCAT Kick back and enjoy yourself because their will not be much time for that after you start medical school. Best of luck

[bada bing]

hey,

I currently re-enrolled into school to pursue a career in Medicine. My first major was in Engineering Physics. Right now I have enrolled into Biology. However, my Engineering GPA is pretty bad since I had a big responsibility at home with taking care of a disabled parent and working close to 30 hours/week while enrolled fulltime in school.

But right now, my average in Biology is up. My MCAT scores is a 32.

Engineering GPA: 2.4
2nd Major GPA (Biology): 3.7
MCAT: 32

where do i stand guys? I am planning to apply for the January 2008 or May 2008 semester.

[AJ.]

Hello Everyone,
I just want to share my stats with those who are either wondering about their chances or waiting for a reply. I just found out that I was accepted. From the moment my application was complete, I got my interview within less than 2 weeks and after the interview, 2 weeks later I got my acceptance phone call.
My stats were as follows: 22Q, 3.4 overall, 3.2 science, several thousand hours of research, shadowing, publications, and the interview went really well lasting over an hour.
Just as a note to all those worrying out there... Research your school really well, but no matter where you'll get in, just remember... It's not the school but the individual that makes the Doctor.

[surfermd]

hey,

I currently re-enrolled into school to pursue a career in Medicine. My first major was in Engineering Physics. Right now I have enrolled into Biology. However, my Engineering GPA is pretty bad since I had a big responsibility at home with taking care of a disabled parent and working close to 30 hours/week while enrolled fulltime in school.

But right now, my average in Biology is up. My MCAT scores is a 32.

Engineering GPA: 2.4
2nd Major GPA (Biology): 3.7
MCAT: 32

where do i stand guys? I am planning to apply for the January 2008 or May 2008 semester.


I would definitely say you have an interview with those stats. Depending on how you do (I doubt you will screw up) will then determine if you get accepted or wait listed. If wait listed, you will automatically be accepted into the next semester (Jan in this case), that is of course if you don't get in this fall. Good luck.

[txdoc22]

I have to agree with Wajaro. Do your best on the MCAT because the numbers really are the first thing looked at by any school, regardless of what they say. (There are thousands of applicants, they can't look at every one's extra curriculars and LORs.) After the MCAT, if you're really interested, pursue the EMT thing. But don't burn yourself out if you plan on going to med school in the very near future!

[gentlegiant3]

What does IMHO mean?

[ILPsychDoc]

What does IMHO mean?

In my honest opinion

[gentlegiant3]

Oh, Thanks!

[sonnyC]

hey,

I currently re-enrolled into school to pursue a career in Medicine. My first major was in Engineering Physics. Right now I have enrolled into Biology. However, my Engineering GPA is pretty bad since I had a big responsibility at home with taking care of a disabled parent and working close to 30 hours/week while enrolled fulltime in school.

But right now, my average in Biology is up. My MCAT scores is a 32.

Engineering GPA: 2.4
2nd Major GPA (Biology): 3.7
MCAT: 32

where do i stand guys? I am planning to apply for the January 2008 or May 2008 semester.

with that score....I think you can get in U.S. schools !!!

[Athena773]

whats the avg stats of students getting into Ross?
GPA, MCAT scores?


thx guys:confused:

[Chicagostyle]

I graduated from Loyola U Chicago in May of 2005 with a science degree in Economics. I've completed my Biology Courses and got A's in both of them. I decided that I wanted to go to Med school so I enrolled at a jr. college to complete my pre med courses and I'm still working full time. I got an A in inorganic 1 and 2. I haven't completed the rest.
What do you think my chances are?
I'm looking for any good advice to help me out.

Here are my stats.
Overall GPA 3.15
4 summers of volunteering in the ER and continuing to do so.
founder/member of economic club
Haven't taken the MCAT yet......

[islandthrift]

It sounds like you are on the right track. Keep plugging away and good luck!

[Chicagostyle]

What do you think I will need to get on the MCAT to strenghten my chances.....?

Also what is this MERP program I keeping hearing of ?

[islandthrift]

Do a search for the Merp program as I have, as well as other, explained what it is many times. As for the Mcat score, the higher the better! I would say you want somewhere in the mid 20's if possible although they do not put as much emphasis on the MCAT as other schools. There are people here who have a 16!!! Not a lot but a few. Basically, any clinical experience is great and you already have a few years so keep it up!

[Chicagostyle]

Thanx you've been a lot of help.....

[alasti]

I am thinking about going to med school in the caribbean. I have a overall GPA of 3.1 and math / science GPA 2.5. What are my chances of getting into MUA -Nevis? Should i take more science courses to bring up my science GPA?
Lastly does it matter if the prerequisite courses were taken at a community college?

[Moe2185]

Hello all, I wanted to ask some of you a question about my situation. I started undergrad a while ago and things to start went pretty bad for me in terms of marks. I started off with year 1 completing it. Then in year 2 while registered in a Chemistry program I completely bombed and didnt pass any of my classes. I was put on probation for the third year and ended up having to withdraw from the school for a year because of a failed course.

To say the least the start was undeniably horrendous. This was due to some personal issues outside school as well as some immaturity on my behalf since that I needed to take account for it.

Now that I am back at the university and dedicated myself to it with all i possibly can, I am averaging approximately 85% in my upper year courses (biology degree) and I have scored a 29 on my MCAT.

My question is, is there any hope at all? I have been getting pretty good grades in my upper year classes but I dont know how Ross will calculate my overall undergrad GPA with years 2 and 3 being so bad. My overall advanced science GPA on my schools scale is about a 3.5 (80%=3.3, 90%=4.0). Ive heard Ross is very forgiving but when I look at my past I just feel so discouraged and ask how forgiving can a school really be? Thanks in advance for the replies.

[shutterbugmd]

just APPLY! We all make mistakes and have falls in our careers. Just don't give up!!! They will calculate all your classes but you have a good MCAT. Good luck!

[Liston]

My first college endeavor I didn't take seriously, 2 consecutive semesters of 0.0 GPA's. Probation then dismissed.....I had many non-academic interests at the time, lol. I returned to college full-time at a different university 8 years later and completed a Bachelor's in Biology with a 3.55 GPA. MCAT 22, good volunteer work, and some solid LOR's and Ross took me. I also got held as an intermediate for interviews at SUNY Buffalo Medical and Georgetown as well. All schools received transcripts for the 0.0 semesters. In my personal statement I emphasized learning from my past indiscretions and in doing so discovering the value of education. In your case I'm not sure when or how they recalculate GPA's for past performance or if there's a cut-off, but with your current stats and a 29 MCAT I think you shouldn't have a problem getting into Ross.

[mike_ross]

I did horrible in my Freshmen year as well (UC Davis) -- first 2 quarters I had a C average and the 3rd quarter I failed all my classes. I had to withdraw from school, attend a community college for a semester and then I was re-admitted. I finished with a 2.5 Science GPA and a 3.0 Overall. I took the MCAT and got a 23 which was my fault because I didn't take the test as seriously as I should have.

I got MERP'd and now I'm in my 4th semester on the island with a 4.0.

You will most probably be accepted. Good luck.

[Shadowstar]

Make sure you tell them at the interview (if you decide to apply which you should) that the first two years were bad cause of personal troubles and make it absolutely CLEAR that you improved and am now extremely dedicated and they will definitely take that into consideration.

[medskoolhopeful]

Hi guys, im thinking of applying for fall 2008 and im wondering if u guys can tell me my chances based on my marks... i really bombed first year as i never went to class and just made the worst decisions so because of that my overall science gpa is around 2.35 wheras my non science gpa is around 3.35.. 2nd year i brought up my gpa to 3.3 and 3rd year to 3.7 but still my overall sits at science 2.35 and non science 3.35 .. i still have to take the mcat this september and i have tons of volunteer experience... do u think i have a chance? thanks! :)

[doc883]

with a 2.9gpa and 18N on the MCAT ..is that sufficient to get in, with good amount of volunteer work and a real job? Any constructive thoughts will be helpful thank you

[rokshana]

with a 2.9gpa and 18N on the MCAT ..is that sufficient to get in, with good amount of volunteer work and a real job? Any constructive thoughts will be helpful thank you


dude! :lolup: "what are my chances?" is a sticky here like the auc forum.

and my advice is the same- retake those MCATs and aim for mid 20s

will be the same advice for sgu and saba if you post there too.

[Dude Where's My MD?]

I did horrible in my Freshmen year as well (UC Davis) -- first 2 quarters I had a C average and the 3rd quarter I failed all my classes. I had to withdraw from school, attend a community college for a semester and then I was re-admitted. I finished with a 2.5 Science GPA and a 3.0 Overall. I took the MCAT and got a 23 which was my fault because I didn't take the test as seriously as I should have.

I got MERP'd and now I'm in my 4th semester on the island with a 4.0.

You will most probably be accepted. Good luck.



I have a question for you though. Do you feel that MERP has helped you alot for your preparation for the island, and how hard was it? I looked at the papers they sent, it says 60 (lowest score in any class) and 70 (overall average). That doesn't seem too bad. Were you satisfied with MERP, and do you think you'd be doing as well right now if you hadn't gone? Gracias amigo grande.

[GoingMed]

Hey everyone, I was wondering what you guys think about my chances:

I have a B.S. in Chemical Engineering (Biochemical emphasis), my overall GPA is around a 2.8-2.9. My Science GPA is slightly higher.

In my my first few years of college, my GPA was a little like (2.5-2.7), then in my last few years I picked it up and averaged about 3.2-3.5, leaving me with an overall of about 2.8-2.9

I just took the MCATs, but I didn't do as well as I knew I should have...I got a 21O. I took Princeton Review.
I have maybe about 250-300 hrs of volunteer work in a clinic as well as Medical Assitant training, 25 hrs doctor shadowing. I will be able to also get some rec's.

I'm wondering if I should just apply with these stats to the Jan 08 class, or if I absolutely need to retake the MCAT. Retaking the MCATs would delay me for maybe about 4-6 months, which isn't terrible, but if I could get in with my current score, I'd rather do that. I appreciate everyone's opinion. Thanks again for all your advice...

[medskoolhopeful]

hey im taking princeton review right now too.. did u think it wasnt very effective? or was it for other reasons that you think u didnt do as well as you hoped to?

[akwasiatta]

i was just wondering if anyone would have an idea of my chances at Ross with the following Stats.

B.S in Biology cum 3.29 science 3.36
Almost a year as a chemical lab technician.
BSN (B.S. in nursing) at Thomas Jefferson University-cum GPA 3.46

currently R.N since may 2006, at Thomas jefferson University hospital.

MCAT wasn't great VR 4 Phys-7 Bio-7 .... 18L

thanks.

[Shadowstar]

The low mcat is balanced by the decent gpa and the nursing and ** degrees I think you would make it...definitely apply.

[akwasiatta]

thanks for your input

[phisigman03]

I don't understand why people are not understanding the multi-issue that is going on at Ross. WHy do you want to go here after knowing the fact that the school doesn't care about its students? They are running low on clinical sites, they are increasing # of acceptance, they don't increase the resources on the island campus. What more do you need for you to understand that this school is going down hill.

[chriscam8]

I don't understand why people are not understanding the multi-issue that is going on at Ross. WHy do you want to go here after knowing the fact that the school doesn't care about its students? They are running low on clinical sites, they are increasing # of acceptance, they don't increase the resources on the island campus. What more do you need for you to understand that this school is going down hill.

I can't speak about clinicals, but everything on the island is fine. Don't let one person influence you.

[islandthrift]

They are actually in the process of building a new gym as well as a few other buildings. Progress is slow because it is Dominica but both construction sites are worked on almost every day. They are also expanding the mailroom so we can receive our packages on campus again!

[pocaface]

Hi All ~

I'm applying to Ross for Jan 2008. I'm wondering if I should apply to any other schools based on my scores/EC's/etc. or if I have a chance at Ross??

Undergrad GPA: 3.2
Science GPA: 3.1
Grad GPA: 3.5 (currently enrolled in a Clinical Psych Doct. program)

Extensive ECs

Any feedback would be appreciated!

Thanks!

[numb]

I think you've got a really good chance, since you've gone to grad school, you have plenty of experience in health care and other extracurricular activities (from what I've heard, Ross really likes applicants who have health care experience). The January class should also be easier to get into, as well. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to apply to 1 or 2 other schools just to be on the safe side, if you absolutely need to get in somewhere for January (and can't risk waiting until May).

[dshah]

Hi guys,
I just graduated with my ** from USC. I took the mcat in may and didn't do very well(21). My overall GPA is about a 3.1 but my science is lower than a 3.0( not sure exactly but probably between 2.7-2.85). I am taking a couple classes this summer to boost that and if needed I'm willing to take about 3-4 more this fall to raise it. Just wondering what i should expect and if u have any advice... thanks

[aggiebennet]

Hi all,

I just got my acceptance letter today! 3.2 GPA and 28 MCAT. Whew, I was worried, but now I'm so happy!

[Yogesh812]

Hey everyone need your help i m trying for Jan 08'. I am one of those coming back to school old fart students.
here are my stats.

Ages:25
GPA:2.98
MCAT:11K

extra stuff: Engineering degree, Ameripath(Pathology lab experience), american cancer society, AMSA.

Do I have a chance at all to get into Ross?

[pocaface]

congrats! :)

[pocaface]

you think 25 is old?? ...

Hey everyone need your help i m trying for Jan 08'. I am one of those coming back to school old fart students.
here are my stats.

Ages:25

[Yogesh812]

I'm Indian and in my culture I should be married and well settled in a career by now...lol

so, do you think i have a chance? I finished my engineering degree in 02', so right now i m pretty much finishing off pre-reqs: I have a Organic chem II left.

[Shadowstar]

You might want to retake the MCAT to have a chance...

[Yogesh812]

Thanks! I m planning on taking it sometime soon

[xMC85]

I hate posting here without my final MCAT but here it goes:

UC Berkeley: Bio major
GPA: ~2.85
MCAT: scoring on practices 27-28 (3R,5R) (taking MCAT in less than 2 weeks)

Good LORs, some volunteer/clinical, shadowed doctor, no science research.

What are my chances?

[ducebiggalo]

DO NOT go to ROSS UNIVERSITY. IT is the worst school in the caribbean, they do not care about there student and there needs, all they want is your money. There are so many things they are not telling you when you apply. I am a current student. If you have any question just ask. Bottom Line DO NOT go to ross.

[princey0gi]

GPA:2.9sci/3.0cum...
MCAT: scores released July18th. *pract were 28-30*
Clinical Exp: Shadow/Volunteer @ Hospital
Research: Prostate & Ovarian Cancer Research (no pubs though:()
Clubs: AMSA
State Res: NJ

thanks guys.

[Shadowstar]

You guys with the sub 3.0 gpas - unless you get 30 or above on the mcat, I'm predicting you will be offered merp.

[Aggiemd2b]

Wow, 3.0 undergrad GPA and a 30 MCAT and you can't get into a US school at least a D.O.? I am surprised. I was wait listed at TAMU COM 2 yrs in a row with much lower scores. I do however, have an Anatomy Graduate degree from TCOM (D.O. school). I am just now starting the research part of these caribbean schools to decide which one is my preference. I do not want to retake the MCAT as I have been out of undergrad for 16 years and grad school 10 years and I would have to start over with studying physics etc. My MCAT score is too old for US schools. However, I do have some great experiences, multiple publications and have taken histo, anatomy, biochem, pharm and embrology at a medical school level. (I even tutored the med students in my class!) I am closing in on 40 and do not want to be MERP'ed! Are the Caribbean schools that competitive! I got the impression they let in scores of students (second chance) and lots get kicked out or drop due to grades etc. and that was the weed out. I guess that is no longer the case! I sure hope I can get in!

[Shadowstar]

Nowadays you can't get into US schools with a 3.0 gpa and 30 MCAT. The reason is because almost EVERYONE applying to US med schools have a 30 MCAT...except all of them have like 3.8 GPAs. Thats why US schools are so hard to get in to. As for caribbean schools, they like to see good scores overall...like a 3.3 or 3.4 at least with a 25 mcat. When one of the scores are sub par, then the other score must be excellent to balance the overall profile. If you've been noticing the Ross applicants, almost all of the accepted students have decent gpa's and mcat scores...the ones lacking in one of these fields are usually given merp.

[nextdoc]

hey guys,
i just got my mcat score and i am really upset with the results I got a 19K. my overall gpa is 3.166 and my science gpa is around 2.9. do you think i should submit my score to ross or should i retake the mcat again and then submit? what are my chances with these stats? i greatly appreciate your replies. thank you

[gentlegiant3]

hey guys,
i just got my mcat score and i am really upset with the results I got a 19K. my overall gpa is 3.166 and my science gpa is around 2.9. do you think i should submit my score to ross or should i retake the mcat again and then submit? what are my chances with these stats? i greatly appreciate your replies. thank you


Retake the MCAT!

[strongy16]

You guys with the sub 3.0 gpas - unless you get 30 or above on the mcat, I'm predicting you will be offered merp.

I don't know about being merped. I had a subpar gpa -2.8 and only a 23 on the mcat and I wasn't merped.

[islandthrift]

You guys with the sub 3.0 gpas - unless you get 30 or above on the mcat, I'm predicting you will be offered merp.

Ross generally does not care about MCAT score. A gpa less than about a 2.8 - 3.0 can be made up by having volunteer or work experience in the medical field.

[cooolguy]

here goes it

3.67 cgpa
3.65 sgpa
27 mcat first time (10ps, 5v, m, 12bs)
26 mcat second time (9ps, 6 v, m, 11bs)

The only reason my gpa isnt at a 3.8 is because i received an F in a 3 hour course which I can explain at the interview. All other grades are only A's and B's.

Great letters, research, shadowing, etc.

I really want to get into one of the top 4, please give me some insight about when to apply for jan. 08 class.