Agu/ Belize /mua

[clevelandkrish]

What is with this AGU school. I am very curious to know how many Profs and Students since the place is new and I cannot get a straight answer, much less any answer??????????????????? Also, MUA is in san pedro which is known as being a great place to live (along with caulker caye), I seriously doubt Belmopan is that nice. Can anyone enlighten me on this.

[BillyBill]

San Pedro is a great place to live!!! it's very tourist oriented and very safe. Students from the other schools actually come to san pedro on the weekends, because they bored out of their minds and plus Belize "mainland" is rough and inhospitable. I'm a clinicial student at MUA belize, which is an accredited school and already has it's own permanent campus.mua belize has been in san pedro close to 6 years now. BE VERY CAUTIOUS and weary of these "new schools" popping up, they do not have credentials and are at best temporary. plus living in belize mainland is risky, high crime, disturbances, haressment, where' you'll find no such thing on the island of ambergris caye.:D

[StodeMD]

don't really know what you are asking, but MUA Belize has nothing to do with MUA Nevis, and Saba.... some past history together, but it's moot. MUA belize is very not accredited by anyone (California, NY, anyone). MUA Nevis is very legit. I would be wary of posters here acting like students, etc. who are actually trying to get a school off the ground (could be legit. school or not).

Do a bit of research and you'll see that the only real options for a comfortable sense of future licencing (btw, you can get a residency after going through something online like UHSA, this is on a whole different order of importance) is MUA Nevis, SGU, Ross, SABA, and AUA (if I have initials right, sorry, the real legit on on Antigua), St. Mathews (SMU), maybe St. Eustacius (not sure).

Good LUck

[mozman]

BillyBill you sound like an ad for the school!! But you are right about AGU. It's a new school and regardless of anything else, let it season for 3-5 years and maybe it will be better or stable...................

[Scrunter]

MUA Belize is a legit school. They had some rough times recently, but things are back to normalcy.

It is only fair to say that the school makes a good attempt to assist students in fulfilling their dreams. It is up to you (the student) to enjoy beautiful and enchanting San Pedro, but focus on your studies (use the kaplan books in the library and make the first aid book your wet-dream).

[BillyBill]

i'm A STUDENT at mua belize..nothing more..nothing less..mua belize is ACCREDITED and listed with the governing bodies. Belmopan is real rough, and not very safe, stay away from MUA NEVIS, my sister GOT SHAFTED when it was rotation time..THEY SHIPPED HER OFF TO IRELAND, otherwise she was told there are NO available clinical spots in USA, she excelled on boards, she was told there is a 9 MONTH WAIT LIST for clinicals in USA, whereas i attended mua belize and i went direct into clinicals in USA with very minimal wait, be weary of these so-called students from mua nevis posting here, they are nothing more but recruiters as nevis is plagued with problems and they are in need of vulnerable students.

[clevelandkrish]

Billybill, 3 questions if you please.

Are MUA nevis and belize associated with each other??????????

If one excels on the USMLE, I am assuming that is not a gaurentee of a clinical????????????????????

How many students are at AGU and how many profs>

[medical17]

Ask current students who are trying to complete their rotations in the US and belong to MUA-B . . . Students have to pay their own way (including getting their own medical malpractice insurance) because . . . well . . . everyone in the US knows that MUA writes bad checks and no one will do business with them, so in turn . . . "belonging to this so called professional medical school" . . . students pay their tuition to MUA, are left on their own to try to get their own rotations and then in addition to paying their tuition to MUA, they have to also pay hospitals and insurance companies directly just to try to get their clinicals taken care of . . . There are two (large) placement services in the US and one (smaller) placement service in Chicago, IL . . . Ask them if they will accept a check from MUA-B . . . To find out the truth about MUS-B's clinical rotations . . . contact the MUA-B administration . . . ask them where they have contracts to place students in clinical rotations. When they tell you . . . ask for the direct names and telephone numbers of the persons who signed the contracts from the hospitals . . . make a few telephone calls to make sure these contracts are legitimate and of course ACGME . . . always do your own homework . . . there are a lot of people posing to be students having a wonderful time with a university and in reality . . . are only plants from the schools themselves.

[BillyBill]

it is sad indeed, a lot of "newbies" who are students at other universities come on this forum only to negate the competeing school, and spread negativity. I AM DOING CLINICALS WITH MUA BELIZE as of now, and i checked everything out, and i will not compromise my future, and i'm confident that muab is on a solid footing. sadly some "newbies" come here to bash our school after being expelled and our themselves "planted" by their new school only to bash us in exchage there elevate there status.

[jadedKnight]

I may be a "newbie" but I am not a student at another school. I have never been expelled from any school, in fact I have always had at least a "B" average. I do not represent any other school.

[medical17]

Where are you completing your clinicals? What cities? What hospitals?

[mutt]

Hello, just wanted to add my own experiences, graduated from MUA-Nevis in June along with about 60 classmates who all got great residencies (see mua nevis website) I don’t think the same can be said for MUA Belize. When I was on Nevis MUA-B was where everyone went when they couldn’t cut it at MUA-N. Not to say that it’s in any way similar today. MUA-N was and probably still is the place for people that can’t cut it at or weren’t accepted to SABA. I would definitely not consider MUA-B unless you don’t have the option of going to any of the major Carib schools. Their association with S.C. is a major drawback. Going to a Carib. School already puts you at a disadvantage so don’t make it worse by going to a school that has obvious and well documented negatives. This goes for any of the less well-established schools. If it’s your only option than I wish you the best of luck and hopefully things well work out. All schools have to start someplace and the building process often gives people an opportunity that otherwise wouldn’t be available.

[tinkywinky]

:D I may be a newbie. But I never act like a licened advertizer of my own school.

[k_tanaka]

it is sad indeed, a lot of "newbies" who are students at other universities come on this forum only to negate the competeing school, and spread negativity. I AM DOING CLINICALS WITH MUA BELIZE as of now, and i checked everything out, and i will not compromise my future, and i'm confident that muab is on a solid footing. sadly some "newbies" come here to bash our school after being expelled and our themselves "planted" by their new school only to bash us in exchage there elevate there status.

i'm A STUDENT at mua belize..nothing more..nothing less..mua belize is ACCREDITED and listed with the governing bodies. Belmopan is real rough, and not very safe, stay away from MUA NEVIS, my sister GOT SHAFTED when it was rotation time..THEY SHIPPED HER OFF TO IRELAND, otherwise she was told there are NO available clinical spots in USA, she excelled on boards, she was told there is a 9 MONTH WAIT LIST for clinicals in USA, whereas i attended mua belize and i went direct into clinicals in USA with very minimal wait, be weary of these so-called students from mua nevis posting here, they are nothing more but recruiters as nevis is plagued with problems and they are in need of vulnerable students.

9 month wait list???? That's Baloney. My house mate who took Step 1 sometime August started his first rotation in Michigan beginning of this October. That was just a little bit over a months wait. It took that much time for him to verify his scores and submit it to the school (MUA requires every student to pass step 1 in order to start clinicals) in order for the school to place him into Clinicals. The only ones who get shafted outside of the US are the ones who didnt pass the USMLE's and insist on starting their rotations (As some of these centers actually require passing the step 1), or the ones who specifically chose to have some clinical experience outside of the US.

In need of vulnerable students?????? C'mon.....do you actually think non US accredited schools would be an educated first choice when applying to a medical program or would it be a US accredited medical school???? Where's the logic........ Where do you think would students that were turned down by these US accredited medical schools go then????? Who do you think (students) is more vulnerable, the one's who made the cut or the one's who are frustrated they didn't???

Lemme get this straight tho, I am not lambasting MUA-Belize....... I think MUA Belize will be a good school maybe in the future, depending on how their administration run the school and how well the students work hard to achieve their dreams. But when you start comparing a furnished house to a partially completed one and then start talking bad about the furnished house (when you have not even completed your own house), that's not right. You cant put them side by side. You have to wait until the other one gets done and fully furnished, before you could justly compare. when that actually happens??? time will tell........

[StodeMD]

it is sad indeed, a lot of "newbies" who are students at other universities come on this forum only to negate the competeing school, and spread negativity. I AM DOING CLINICALS WITH MUA BELIZE as of now, and i checked everything out, and i will not compromise my future, and i'm confident that muab is on a solid footing. sadly some "newbies" come here to bash our school after being expelled and our themselves "planted" by their new school only to bash us in exchage there elevate there status.

GIVE ME A BREAK....
1. THERE IS NO "ACCREDITATION...", accreditation by a local govt. means nothing, simply means the school is a business.
2. MUA Belize has no "ACCEPTANCE" with NY, CA, or anybody else.
3. Billy Bill probably has got some motivation for saying what he is saying, because there is so much hogwash in it. This is not from a newbie, I have checked schools out. MUA Belize is not one you want to attend, RIGHT NOW...WHEREAS MUA NEVIS is a completely legit. school, (it's as legit. as U. of I Chicago as far as it's doc's getting licencure)...maybe he is one of those FREE STUDENTS.. who will be a future good prospect for a future legitimate school
4. That last paragraph makes no sense, why someone would get expelled from Belize, then get acceptance to another school? Belize does not require any bashing.

I am very sorry to see this kind of blather/hogwash/idiocy posted. IT IS MISLEADING.

[KVarner]

To each their own. I'm going there, I've thoroughly researched it, and have decided that it's right for me. Other people have made other judgements. I'm not going to argue with them about it, and I'm not going to argue with them about my choice.

Basically: chill out, people. Go have a drink or something (which is what I'm going to do).

[StodeMD]

Good luck to you , whichever you choose, sincerely. But, if you have the scores, ability, why not consider another school that will make your life easier.

Most who've been there and done it (lesser qualified schools) will caution you. I AM SAYING THIS FROM A QUALIFIED POSITION...I have been mailed to for years by UHSA (Antigua, mostly internet programs) and that is waht got me interestred in Med. School.

I was gunho to prove that UHSA could get me into residency, which at that point sounded like heaven. Then got some posts back from rrod, genosa maximillian (sp), gbono (ex student) who basically clued me in that -yes, I may be able to do it
-true there's no law against any kind of education, except that the states have the right to deny anyone, including US grads.
-yes, there were one or 2 licencees, etc....
............Then I accepted the truth, it was really a long shot, and did I want to put my family (not to mention myself) through that?

I don't know MUA Belize all that well, but it's pretty clear BELIZE IS TROUBLED. If it were a bank, would you put your money in it? I am not bashing it, I am just humbly warning others to see the long picture.

[jadedKnight]

I also wish you luck. But please, before you make a final decision, take a good look at the amount of money and time you are investing. At the tuition rates posted on their website (which are set to be raised in January), you will be paying them over $102,000. If you were investing this money in the stock market or a mutual fund, is a company like MUA-B where you would put your money? Do you have that much cash? They will tell you that money's no problem, you can get a student loan. Please remember, loans must be paid back. If you borrow that amount for 10 years and can get a loan for 5%, you will be paying another $28,000 in interest and will have monthly payments of over $1,000 per month. And that is just for tuition. What are you going to live off of for 4 years? Add housing, transportation, food, books, utilities, etc and you can come close to doubling that amount. Can you afford that on the salary of a resident? What if you don't finish the program, whether it is your fault or theirs? You still owe the money you have borrowed. Please take a hard look at the realities before you decide to attend any school. Education is an investment. Do you want to invest in junk bonds or a fortune 500 company?

[KVarner]

Once again, I've looked at all of those things, and have made a decision that I believe to be the best one for me.

I wish all of you luck with your endeavours.