Why Ross is $30K more expensive than AUC?

[FutureDocMan]

Why Ross is $30K more expensive than AUC? What do I get more for paying the extra money?
Is it better clinical? Or, better basic science?

P.S. Please do not turn this into a flamewar. I just need to know why Ross costs so much more money.

[rokshana]

Why Ross is $30K more expensive than AUC? What do I get more for paying the extra money?
Is it better clinical? Or, better basic science?

P.S. Please do not turn this into a flamewar. I just need to know why Ross costs so much more money.

because they charge more?

really, would ask this same question about US schools- do you think GW at 50,000 a year is a better school than UNC-CH, whose tuition is 10 times less?

[anencephalic]

Why Ross is $30K more expensive than AUC? What do I get more for paying the extra money?
Is it better clinical? Or, better basic science?

The opportunity to drop any reference to the "Caribbean" in your medical degree...:p

Other than that....not much in terms of education.

[skull]

The opportunity to drop any reference to the "Caribbean" in your medical degree...:p

Other than that....not much in terms of education.
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[spyyder]

One word: Devry

$30,000 x students = happy shareholder

[MylifeatDominica]

they are like those big oil companies run by bush and his kind, they are monopolies, so they think that they can charge students whatever they want. and after all, no one can do anything about it. it is out in the caribbean, there is no rules of regulations. the shareholders are getting richer and richer while the real workers of dominica who work at the school are getting paltry salaries.

[jim]

at ross, you get licensure in ALL states. AUC does not.

[DRJJ1]

Why Ross is $30K more expensive than AUC? What do I get more for paying the extra money?
Is it better clinical? Or, better basic science?

P.S. Please do not turn this into a flamewar. I just need to know why Ross costs so much more money.

You didn t hear why Ross is so much more? They have buildings made
of gold bricks and the teachers use gold chalk. Worth every penny or in this case 200k worth. The tuition will prob go up soon again too.

[Dru]

I'm having trouble with your math:
Assuming that Ross costs $128 in tuition ($12,125 per semester X 4 semesters plus $13,250 per semester X 6 semesters =$128,000) and ACU costs $110,000 in tuition ($11,000 per semester X 4 semesters plus $12,000 per semester X 5.5 semesters = $110,000) Ross would only be $18,000 more in tuition BUT you would save an amount by living cheaper in Dominica than on St. Maarten, so it would be a wash or about equal.

I'm basing these numbers on the latest tuition figures on VMD without going to the individual sites for info (The Ross site is down right now). Please correct me if I'm incorrect, but the difference is not $30,000.

Depending what you want as a consumer of education and what is important to you, it is vital that you consider the differences between the foreign medical schools. Licensure, expertise, environment, philosophy, and potential income all are important factors...not just the money.

[MylifeatDominica]

do those locatl dominicans who work at ross get a raise everytime the tuition increases? not really.

[rokshana]

at ross, you get licensure in ALL states. AUC does not.

not true anymore- texas put both sgu and auc on the list, same as ross.

[avocado]

not true anymore- texas put both sgu and auc on the list, same as ross.
That wasn't even true before AUC was placed on the equivalency list. There are plenty of AUC grads licensed in Texas, they just had to jump through a few hoops first (which, as you point out, is no longer the case.)

at ross, you get licensure in ALL states. AUC does not.
Seriously dude, you should check your facts before you post disparaging and false information.

Ross would only be $18,000 more in tuition BUT you would save an amount by living cheaper in Dominica than on St. Maarten, so it would be a wash or about equal.
I've said this before: the difference in cost is greatly exaggerated, IMO. Yes, rent is more here and some students don't shop around. But I pay $675 for a very nice studio, I know 3 people who share an amazing house for $600 each, etc. OTOH, I also know some people who pay $1300/month for a 1-bedroom apartment, but again, that's a choice or the result of poor research. (No way in hell I could afford that.) When I was researching Ross, I figured I would spend about $600 on rent for a nice place (I'm too old and set in my ways for RUH-type living.) So the disparity in rent is not that great.

Maybe some food or amenities are more expensive here; I don't know. But I do know everything I need can be purchased here, so no need to ship stuff. Also, I don't need to worry about customs charges if I do bring/order something from home. While I did end up getting a car here, it's not necessary since I live a 5 minute walk from school; most of the places I looked into on Dominica required a vehicle. I will save money on visits home since my friends and family actually want to visit me here. All things considered, I determined AUC to be significantly cheaper than Ross, and I also get far smaller class sizes for my dollars. That was, and remains, my bottom line.

[FRNC]

they are like those big oil companies run by bush and his kind, they are monopolies, so they think that they can charge students whatever they want. and after all, no one can do anything about it. it is out in the caribbean, there is no rules of regulations. the shareholders are getting richer and richer while the real workers of dominica who work at the school are getting paltry salaries.


LOL !! I guess I'll never understand why some people whine about other people's success. Ross is not a monopoly...you can apply to a US Med/DO school or lower priced foreign med schools....you have lots of choices. Ross is very successful at producing a quality product....which is why admission to Ross is in high demand. They have no trouble keeping the enrollment up. If you think the price is unfair, move aside so the applicant in line behind you can have a shot at your spot.

[teratos]

There is no good explaination....

[MylifeatDominica]

yes, it is a monopoly for both students and dominican workers.

students in the states can organize and protest whether the institution is a public or a private school. at ross, students just have to pay for whatever devry shareholders ask for. at the same time, their eduction remain the same. the school built another big classroom - annex not for the students, but for devry to make more money.

only the shareholders are getting rich, the poor dominican workers at ross are not getting rich at all. They are still living in 3rd world living condition, and they don't get paid as well as those who work in med. schools in the states even though they work the same amount of time and same work lord.

has any of the students who claim to want to help people ever thought about helping the dominican workers? why aren't they getting equal pay for equal work? After all, students are the ones that are paying.

[Clad128]

MylifeatDominica, enough about the Dominican workers! Most of them (not all) are lazy people who do not work hard enough to deserve our defination of minimum wage. Stop trying to change the world and instead focus on the reason that you went to Dominica in the first place, which was to study medicine.

[MylifeatDominica]

MylifeatDominica, enough about the Dominican workers! Most of them (not all) are lazy people who do not work hard enough to deserve our defination of minimum wage. Stop trying to change the world and instead focus on the reason that you went to Dominica in the first place, which was to study medicine.

calling the local dominican people "lazy" is no different as those white masters calling black slaves lazy. I have heard it before. you should be ashamed of yourself.

Giving local dominican employees the same minimum wages according to the US standard is only humane. there are about 1266 students at Ross, the school gets $15,350,250 every four months. Asking Devry shareholders to share the profit with the Dominican people should not be a hard task.

The tuition will continue to increase no matter what the students do.

Why give more money to those rich shareholders, what did they do to deserve that money? How many of them are willing to come down to dominica to clean the dirty bathrooms which students "create" daily!

[rokshana]

calling the local dominican people "lazy" is no different as those white masters calling black slaves lazy. I have heard it before. you should be ashamed of yourself.

Giving local dominican employees the same minimum wages according to the US standard is only humane. there are about 1266 students at Ross, the school gets $15,350,250 every four months. Asking Devry shareholders to share the profit with the Dominican people should not be a hard task.

The tuition will continue to increase no matter what the students do.

Why give more money to those rich shareholders, what did they do to deserve that money? How many of them are willing to come down to dominica to clean the dirty bathrooms which students "create" daily!
key word - US standard- they are NOT in the US. The whole world does not have to follow the US standard (and I am a life long republican, thank you)- it is quite colonialistic and imperialistic of you to think so. I'm sure the Dominicans had enough of that from the British. Like Jim said earlier in a post- by pushing 1st world standards on a 3rd world country, you do them no favors and in the end cause them more harm.

and lazy is as lazy does-- if someone is lazy, they are lazy- playing the race card is inappropriate.

[MylifeatDominica]

the students are not paying their tuitions at the 3rd world rate. the profit which the school generates is not 3rd world standard, either.

the dominican professors are not getting paid according to dominican standard.

it is ultimate selfish captialist speaking to say that giving the poor dominican employees more money will cause them more harm!!!

That is the reason why all the shareholders in the US are getting richer and richer while the local dominican employees are still living in very poor conditions!

None of you can live like that for one day when they have to live like that for their lifetime!

[DRDRWMD]

key word - US standard- they are NOT in the US. The whole world does not have to follow the US standard (and I am a life long republican, thank you)- it is quite colonialistic and imperialistic of you to think so. I'm sure the Dominicans had enough of that from the British. Like Jim said earlier in a post- by pushing 1st world standards on a 3rd world country, you do them no favors and in the end cause them more harm.

and lazy is as lazy does-- if someone is lazy, they are lazy- playing the race card is inappropriate.Some things are not race related, but rather cultural. Americans are better at being amoral, business only, no nonsense executives. Foreign companies hire Americans to work in other countries to assure the bottom line is achieved and profits are made. Our spacious suburban American houses are paid for by an economy that feeds on the less fortunate parts of the world. The United States may not be on the top of the economic food chain forever; however, I am glad it is while I am around.

[rokshana]

None of you can live like that for one day when they have to live like that for their lifetime!

in what I am sure is your very white-bred, upper middle class world, you would think no one else would have any idea what it is like to live in a 3rd world country, under 3rd world conditions. You forget, many of us are either from said third world countries or are 1st generation with strong ties to our parents countries. Many of us (or our parents) fled extreme poverty or war-torn countries and have lived through horrors that YOU will never understand- don't presume to think that you know what is best for those you superiorly and arrogantly see as the misfortunate that are so unable to take care of themselves that they need you, the shining "white" knight, to come and rescue.

[MylifeatDominica]

If you think that you understand the meaning of being poor, then you should fight for this injustice. the only reason that you think that you should not fight for this is because you think that you will have to open up your own pocket.

Students who are studying on other rich islands pay about the same amount of tuition, and those local workers certainly get paid at a much higher rate. Look at SMU at Cayman island, they certainly can't pay those local employees 1000 EC/month!

So for those rich capitalists who invest in devery, they are certainly happy that their profit margins are much bigger comparing with SGU, SMU, etc.

Asking the shareholders to share their profit with the local Dominican people is only a humane thing to do! And whoever says that paying them more is harming them is no different than those white masters claiming that black slaves can't be freed because they are too lazy, etc, etc!

For all those who disagree with me, you simply have to realize this simple fact - the tuition will continue to increase no matter what. The school will certainly not stop increasing your tuition just because you don't care about the poor living conditions the local dominical employees have.

[stephew]

you've already a thread on this topic. hijacking threads and multiple threads on a topic is not permitted and feeling really really strongly about the issue doesnt make it alright.