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future_doc
09-24-2006, 04:15 PM
What is AOA? Is there AOA chapter at Ross? I came across this as I started filling out my ERAS. I know I am late, but things just didn't work out earlier. Can someone please tell me this?

popozao
09-24-2006, 04:20 PM
no.........................

Alpha Omega Alpha (http://www.alphaomegaalpha.org/)

anencephalic
09-24-2006, 04:21 PM
What is AOA? Is there AOA chapter at Ross? I came across this as I started filling out my ERAS. I know I am late, but things just didn't work out earlier. Can someone please tell me this?

If you have to ask, then you're not in it...but hey, neither am I.

Shah_Patel_PT
09-24-2006, 04:27 PM
What is AOA? Is there AOA chapter at Ross? I came across this as I started filling out my ERAS. I know I am late, but things just didn't work out earlier. Can someone please tell me this?

When I was on the island, I personally tried getting a Ross chapter for AOA. There is 1 program outside USA that has been permitted to establish a chapter. I think it is in one of the countries in europe.

Anyway...I was REJECTED! There main reason...."your school is not LCME accredited..."

After that..i was like ...whatevaaa...screw them....

stephew
09-24-2006, 04:34 PM
non lcme schools dont have aoa standing period.

Shah_Patel_PT
09-24-2006, 04:38 PM
non lcme schools dont have aoa standing period.

It is unfortunate....but true....

It is like a monopoly.....that is for the elite few....even some US allopathic schools are not part of AOA.

stephew
09-24-2006, 05:50 PM
well not quite. some schools like harvard do not believe in aoa. so on transcripts if youre from one of those schools there is a note to program directors that they dont have aoa so dont worry if the student isnt a memeber. but its not tht they're not allow; they jsut dont want it. sgu has its own honor society but no one in the real world cares about it.

rokshana
09-24-2006, 05:59 PM
non lcme schools dont have aoa standing period.

not true- there is ONE non-lcme chapter - American University in Beirut - it was granted alpha chapter status in 1958 and still exists.

https://labmed.aub.edu.lb/plm/alpha/

Shah_Patel_PT
09-24-2006, 06:03 PM
not true- there is ONE non-lcme chapter - American University in Beirut - it was granted alpha chapter status in 1958 and still exists.

https://labmed.aub.edu.lb/plm/alpha/

Thanks roskshana for backing me up.....thats the one example I had seen before I tried getting Ross into it in 2003.

singer
09-25-2006, 07:49 AM
Here's how it works at least at my youngers sons school. At the end of the second year the curent AOA members vote it somewhere between 7-10 students to AOA. The students must have a straight "A" average and have done other noteworthy things. At the end of the 3rd year the top 25% of the class is eligible for AOA but only 15% will be elected by the current members. The criteria is grades, resarch, community volunteer work and probably a good rapour with the current members who are voting.

After being elected to AOA I personally kn ow someone who is now doing aresidency in Thorasic Surgery at a top New York Hospital who actually recived info from many top hospitals looking for him to do residencies.

Surely beats applying through ERAS etc. I guess its an advantage of being a top US MEdical student.


Hope this helps answer the questions on AOA

rokshana
09-25-2006, 10:18 AM
Here's how it works at least at my youngers sons school. At the end of the second year the curent AOA members vote it somewhere between 7-10 students to AOA. The students must have a straight "A" average and have done other noteworthy things. At the end of the 3rd year the top 25% of the class is eligible for AOA but only 15% will be elected by the current members. The criteria is grades, resarch, community volunteer work and probably a good rapour with the current members who are voting.

After being elected to AOA I personally kn ow someone who is now doing aresidency in Thorasic Surgery at a top New York Hospital who actually recived info from many top hospitals looking for him to do residencies.

Surely beats applying through ERAS etc. I guess its an advantage of being a top US MEdical student.


Hope this helps answer the questions on AOA

AOA is not another process for application- AOA students process through ERAS just like everyone else(unless they are doing the SF match, but that's another story)

Junior AOA aren't elected- its the top 5% of the 3rd year class after cores (chapter guidelines). Then the Junior AOA students, during 4th year elect the senior AOA members from a list of students in the top 25% of the class. Here is where extracurriculars, research, etc come into play, not just GPA. Each chapter can have different numbers inducted into AOA, depending on the class size. (had a boyfriend who was Jr AOA, so I was in on the "secret" process while they voted on the Sr AOA members!!)

But to those of you who want AOA, you can become a member later in your training- AOA membership is available, through nomination, while you are a resident and as an attending.

anencephalic
09-25-2006, 04:24 PM
But to those of you who want AOA, you can become a member later in your training- AOA membership is available, through nomination, while you are a resident and as an attending.

Oh joy...there's still hope for me!:rolleyes: