Mt. Sinai, Chicago

[Junito]

Residency: OB/GYN, Pediatrics, Family Practice

Clinical Rotations: OB/GYN, Psychiatry, Family Practice, Pediatrics, (Surgery if offered).

Website: Welcome to Sinai Health System (http://www.sinai.org/)

[kanson]

Residency: Internal OB/GYN, Pediatrics, Family Practice

Clinical Rotations: OB/GYN, Psychiatry, Family Practice, Pediatrics


Website: Welcome to Sinai Health System (http://www.sinai.org/)






Thanks Junito!! After the basic sciences I don't pay attention to the other posts anymore, just your info. Thanks for all your posts.

[cocoa18]

Residency: OB/GYN, Pediatrics, Family Practice

Clinical Rotations: OB/GYN, Psychiatry, Family Practice

Website: Welcome to Sinai Health System (http://www.sinai.org/)




We also have Pediatrics rotation (green book). I'm actually going to be starting that rotation in a couple of weeks in chicago.

[silverfish]

We also have Pediatrics rotation (green book). I'm actually going to be starting that rotation in a couple of weeks in chicago.

How long did it take you to get assisgned to this spot? Thanks

[cocoa18]

How long did it take you to get assisgned to this spot? Thanks

Hi Silverfish,

I actually just got assigned it recently, last week. I didnt get my Step scores til a couple of weeks ago, so the semester already started, and chicago was pretty much booked. I almost thought i wouldnt get any rotations for the semester but luckily my advisor pulled thru and was able to get me a green book rotation in time. All in all took about a week to get assigned.

take care.

[silverfish]

Hi Silverfish,

I actually just got assigned it recently, last week. I didnt get my Step scores til a couple of weeks ago, so the semester already started, and chicago was pretty much booked. I almost thought i wouldnt get any rotations for the semester but luckily my advisor pulled thru and was able to get me a green book rotation in time. All in all took about a week to get assigned.

take care.

What was your score?

[UFTim]

I know everyone is saying Peds is Green at Mt. Sinai, but on the official list, that was just re-updated, it states that it's not. Can anyone clarify this?

[Junito]

Your best bet would be to contact the school or post the question on the school's forum (the clinical subforum). The peds residency program at Mt. Sinai is ACGME. The school may not list it because peds may be offered occasionally (that is my guess).

[dadofsmustudent]

He was with preceptor that was affiliated with Mt. Sinai and had her own clinic. Her fellowship was in IM-Pediatrics. Expect to work hard and see a ton of cases. He also worked one day a week with her at a charity clinic.

[Junito]

He was with preceptor that was affiliated with Mt. Sinai and had her own clinic. Her fellowship was in IM-Pediatrics. Expect to work hard and see a ton of cases. He also worked one day a week with her at a charity clinic.

So was the rotation at an outpatient clinic? Or are students allowed to actually rotate physically at the hospital for part of the rotation?

[cocoa18]

Hi,

You do mostly outpatient, and let me tell you its a whole lot of patients. But you do go to the hospital and do rounds in the morning for inpatients there are also grand rounds on wed. And depending from rotation to rotation with her, you may get the opportunity to go to fast track (urgent care) at the hospital as well. There isn't much observation in this rotation, which is good, because its all pretty much hands on experience. Your expected to go in there and learn.

[Anonymous123]

anyone recently been to mt sinai for peds? is it still the same i.e, u rotate with a doctor who has her own clinic or different? ...any tips on where to live, if u need car or not...anything....thanks in advance

[Jeep23Guy]

Did my peds with Dr. T there in June. I would say you definitely need a car for the rotation. One clinic is close to Mt. Sinai hospital and the other is around 30 miles south of Chicago (and no good public transport to get there). I rarely went to the hospital, but you see tons of patients. It's more like a med-peds rotation. You have to write up a long-form H&P each week and give a 5-min presentation each week (without notes).

[dangrr]

Mt. Sinai Hospital is located in the Lawndale area, a few miles west of downtown Chicago. The unmanned Metra train station at Western Ave. is a one mile walk or Bus #38 ride from the hospital. There also is a fee based shuttle from downtown Union Station; I believe it's $1 or $2 each way.

This large, busy hospital is located in an industrial section of Chicago; there is a park across the street but beware this is the "Latin Kings" territory. I walked to/from the hospital most days and had no problems.

I hope this information helps SMU students who follow me:

1) The rotation is green and is sponsored by the Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University.
2) Eleven other students( Mostly Chicago Medical, SMU,and AUA) were on the rotation with me. I felt that the SMU students were equally prepared for this rotation.
3) Most patients are on state public aid, Medicaid, Medicare and some private insured.
4) Hours are 8-5 pm. I had two calls during the six weeks until 10 pm.
5) The rotation was divided into two weeks of inpatient, out-patient and consultations.
6) For inpatient you are assigned two clients which you follow, interview and keep progress notes on. From 1-5 pm each day you have lectures and student presentations. Out-patient is at the hospital or a clinic two miles away; no lectures. Consultation is with the internal medicine staff; lectures from 1-5 pm.
6) I had to give two presentations and one group project presentation. Each student also had to interview a patient in front of the attending, residents and medical students.
7) My preceptor was Dr. W; she was very friendly, talkative and pimped us all with deep,complex questions. However, there was no scut work.
8) The final exam was on the last day and was right from the lectures we sat in.

In summary, the hospital was very busy and the rotation was very educational. I took the shelf exam in the final week at Rockford, Illinois and most of the question matter had been discussed during the lectures we received at Mt. Sinai.

DANGRR

(X) OB/GYN, Michael Reese Hospital, Chicago
(X) PSYCH, Mt. Sinai Hospital, Chicago
(Jan08) FAMILY, Mt. Sinai Hospital, Chicago
(Mar08) IM, Cleveland Clinic's Huron Hospital
(Jun08) SURGERY, Cleveland Clinic's Huron Hospital

[dangrr]

This is a "green" rotation #120-16-31-618 sponsored by Mount Sinai Hospital Medical Center of Chicago. Dr. A is the program director and Dr. B was the attending. You will work six days a week;however, you are off Sundays and one Saturday during the six weeks( 4 weeks are considered core and 2 weeks is electives). Us three SMU studends alternated assignments with U. of Chicago students at two locations:

CLINIC

Two days a week from 9 am- 5 pm and Saturday 9-12 we worked at the clinic which is located in the Garfield Park area of Chicago. You can reach it by taking the #20 bus to Madison and Hamlin or take the Green Line train to Conservatory & Central Park. .7 mile walk to the clinic. There is no free parking at the clinic.

Most of the patients did not have insurance but paid a small fee. At the clinic you were personally responsible for up to ten patients each day. Take vitals, write histories, etc. Then you would see a resident and he would review and then sign the paperwork and prescriptions. If you had questions the residents would help or consult. Great residents and nurses. No scut work or pimping.

For lunch a Subway or White Castle were nearby. Since the area was super ghetto we didn't explore for lunch.

MT. SINAI HOSPITAL

On the other days we were at hospital admissions from 2 pm- 8pm. Friday we had lectures in the morning and afternoon and were done by 5 pm. You would write up H & P for one or two patients. Take the information to the attending and write the orders. Definitely not as busy as the clinic. The hospital has a student parking lot; use it or your car will get jacked.


Overall a great rotation and I learned a lot. Best of all, NO final exam, no shelf, and no presentations to give.



Started Aug. 05
(X) OB/GYN, Michael Reese Hospital, Chicago
(X) PSYCH, MT. Sinai Hospital, Chicago
(X) FAMILY, MT. Sinai Hospital, Chicago
(Feb. 29) IM, Cleveland Clinic's Huron Hospital
(Jun 08) SURGERY, Cleveland Clinic's Huron Hospital

[Dynasty]

So do you guys think that rotations in Mt Sania is good?

[Baditude]

I did Anesthesia and Cardiology at Mt.Sinai and really learned a lot in both. I enjoyed anesthesia the most simply because I have an interest in the field. The rotations are both electives and the hours were good (anesthesia 7-3 and cardiology 8:30-4ish). I hope to do more rotations here both cores and electives.

[seandubbers]

So rotations for SMU are only outpatient? You don't get do do the inpatients ?

I know someone at U Of C who does rotations all around the major facility known as the University of Chicago Hospitals.

How does this work for SMU students? I heard UIC students are there as well. Same rotations for boths?


Thanks

[shawnm3]

The PEDS rotation is not the same as it is for the US students, the school has a preceptor here and we basically do outpatient internal med at the clinic. SMU students are not allowed to see the patients in the hospital.

The other rotations at Sinai are great, we do the same rotation as the US students, in and out patient.

So rotations for SMU are only outpatient? You don't get do do the inpatients ?

I know someone at U Of C who does rotations all around the major facility known as the University of Chicago Hospitals.

How does this work for SMU students? I heard UIC students are there as well. Same rotations for boths?


Thanks

[Baditude]

Anesthesia and cardiology are all inpatient. I am doing FP now and it is in a clinic (out patient)

[UFTim]

Anesthesia and cardiology are all inpatient. I am doing FP now and it is in a clinic (out patient)

Man, there are a lot of students in Family! I know of at least 2 others from our school there.

I'm in Psych, and 2/3 of the rotation is in the hospital.

[seandubbers]

The PEDS rotation is not the same as it is for the US students, the school has a preceptor here and we basically do outpatient internal med at the clinic. SMU students are not allowed to see the patients in the hospital.

The other rotations at Sinai are great, we do the same rotation as the US students, in and out patient.


how come smu students cant see patients in the hospital? is that just for peds in sinai, or is it like that every rotation spot?

[ALB123]

I'm starting FP on May5th at Mt. Sinai, anyone else with me? let me know..

[got milk?]

any good electives here?
anyone doing any?

[UFTim]

any good electives here?
anyone doing any?

They offere electives that are easy to get in Cards, Anesthesia, and Pathology. I see our students doing them in third year after doing Family and no other core.

The hospital has 5 or 6 residency programs, so they definitely have a lot of green elective opportunities. The only problem is a lot of students from UIC, CMS, etc., rotate through there and get first dibs on some of the competitive electives. For example, PM&R electives at Sinai are booked through April of next year.

[got milk?]

well, anes and path are not green as far as i can tell.
what's the contact info for the med education dept??



Sponsored programs

Family Medicine :
120-16-31-618 Mount Sinai Hospital Medical Center of Chicago Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,1201631618,00.html)
Obstetrics and Gynecology :
220-16-11-088 Mount Sinai Hospital Medical Center of Chicago Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,2201611088,00.html)
Pediatrics :
320-16-21-408 Mount Sinai Hospital Medical Center of Chicago Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,3201621408,00.html)

Affiliated programs Cardiovascular Disease (IM) :
141-16-21-062 The Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,1411621062,00.html)
Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Metabolism (IM) :
143-16-21-042 The Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,1431621042,00.html)
Infectious Disease (IM) :
146-16-21-044 The Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,1461621044,00.html)
Internal Medicine :
140-16-21-111 The Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,1401621111,00.html)
Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation :
340-16-22-012 Schwab Rehabilitation Hospital and Care Network/University of Chicago Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,3401622012,00.html)
Plastic Surgery :
360-16-21-028 University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,3601621028,00.html)
Psychiatry :
400-16-31-056 The Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,4001631056,00.html)
Pulmonary Disease (IM) :
149-16-21-051 The Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,1491621051,00.html)
Surgery-General :
440-16-21-385 University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago (Mount Sinai) Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,4401621385,00.html)
Urology :
480-16-21-047 University of Chicago Program (http://www.ama-assn.org/vapp/freida/pgm/0,1238,4801621047,00.html)

[tomjones]

About Family Med @ Mt. Sinai,

Is it safe to walk from the Conservatory Station in Garfield Park to the Clinic on Madison? I called the office and the clinic manager advised me against taking the train - she did not think it was a safe location to be walking in. Any students have an opinion about this?? I'd really rather not get a car....

[silverfish]

About Family Med @ Mt. Sinai,

Is it safe to walk from the Conservatory Station in Garfield Park to the Clinic on Madison? I called the office and the clinic manager advised me against taking the train - she did not think it was a safe location to be walking in. Any students have an opinion about this?? I'd really rather not get a car....

Don't walk, don't take the train... it is not a safe area. The hospital is fine, don't know about the clinic, but anytime of the day, its just not the place where you want to take a stroll. good luck

[tomjones]

Don't walk, don't take the train... it is not a safe area. The hospital is fine, don't know about the clinic, but anytime of the day, its just not the place where you want to take a stroll. good luck

That bad?! Ok. Taking the #20 bus that stops in front is safe, though?

Do you have any suggestions on where to find a place to live for 6 weeks? I'd really appreciate any help.

[ALB123]

Yeah I mean I wouldn't take the bus. I just finished Family there. GREAT rotation, GREAT attendings, GREAT residents, just crappy neighborhood. There is parking all over the place (street and lot). I personally wouldn't want to walk through garfield park, but I guess you could. If you are white you might get stared at (like we did when we walked to lunch at subway, in a group of course). I would go scout out the area one day and make the decision on your own.
good luck

[SMUclinicals]

I just got my first rotation assignment today @ Mt. Sinai for IM. From what I've been told it is the first time they're offering this rotation at Mt. Sinai. The crazy thing is I have to show up in 5 days so I'm scrambling to get more information and secure housing and such. :confused::confused::confused:

Any suggestion on where to find safe housing??? Also should I bring/buy a car for transportation? Which airport do I fly into? Seems like there are 4 airports all located in Chicago. (Ohare?)

[butterflymd]

Hi Contact member Kong for more information. He is currently doing clinicals in Chicago he has loads of information

[Jeep23Guy]

I just got my first rotation assignment today @ Mt. Sinai for IM. From what I've been told it is the first time they're offering this rotation at Mt. Sinai. The crazy thing is I have to show up in 5 days so I'm scrambling to get more information and secure housing and such. :confused::confused::confused:

Any suggestion on where to find safe housing??? Also should I bring/buy a car for transportation? Which airport do I fly into? Seems like there are 4 airports all located in Chicago. (Ohare?)


Bringing a car is up to you. If you're going to do peds w/ Dr. T you will likely need a car. If you fly in, you can either fly to O'hare or Midway. I would suggest flying into midway...it's much less crazy and you can probably get a cheaper Southwest flight there if you're close to a Southwest airport (but definitely do your homework). You can definitely get to the hospital by bus/train.

As far as housing goes, I would definitely look into MedBed Short Term Housing For Medical Students and Doctors - Chicago, Detroit - Home (http://www.beds4meds.com)
They offer reasonably priced short-term and longer furnished places with everything included. The locations are within a few miles of Mt. Sinai. Ryan started it and currently runs the business and he is really cool and will get back to you quickly. Chicago is a fairly expensive place to live and the prices are reasonable.