Program for Health Professionals

[DocKao]

Has anyone heard of this program and are there students doing this? Do they sit in with regular student or are they in completely different classes? Any one actually graduate and practicing or residency from this program?

[schlondra]

Hello!!

There is a Health Coordinated Program (Mentors In Medicine). I along with one of my fellow nurses started this program on September 11th 2006. The structure of the program is as follows: six weeks each semester (two six week terms completes a semester) so it would take you a total of eight semesters to finish you basic sciences. or you can choose to come for twelve weeks each semester and you would finish the your basis science courses in one year. then you would have a year and two weeks of clinicals then GRADUATION!!! we are completing the twelve week program.
Yes you are in class with the MD students but if you choose the six week program you will go the same pace for the six weeks then you will leave and when you come back you will start the new semester and finish taking the test that you have missed the prior semester. So your load is heavier. If you op to take the twelve week program you won't have to worry about the extra work you will be accelerated slightly because you will finish two weeks sooner than the MD students.
I personally do not know any one who has graduated from this program but I plan to graduate because I want to become an MD!!:D

[DocKao]

Do they supply housing and books? If you do 6 weeks at a time. wouldn't you actually need to do 12 weeks, because you end one and start another back to back. Do you have the schedule? for next year? What are the class load, is it difficult, Mon-Fri? Sorry about all the questions.

[MD04]

Honestly Windsor is putting your life in danger while colleting your $$$$$$$. Everyone intersted in this program must check with your state and find out you able to get licence.
Min 32 mos required by most states in the USA.
Windsor new clinical coordinator has no idea about licencensing rules in the USA.

Windsor is trying to follow the UHSSOFM at Antigua. WINdsor's health sci program might joperdize regular students too.

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No short cut to MD.

Hello!!


There is a Health Coordinated Program (Mentors In Medicine). I along with one of my fellow nurses started this program on September 11th 2006. The structure of the program is as follows: six weeks each semester (two six week terms completes a semester) so it would take you a total of eight semesters to finish you basic sciences. or you can choose to come for twelve weeks each semester and you would finish the your basis science courses in one year. then you would have a year and two weeks of clinicals then GRADUATION!!! we are completing the twelve week program.

Yes you are in class with the MD students but if you choose the six week program you will go the same pace for the six weeks then you will leave and when you come back you will start the new semester and finish taking the test that you have missed the prior semester. So your load is heavier. If you op to take the twelve week program you won't have to worry about the extra work you will be accelerated slightly because you will finish two weeks sooner than the MD students.

I personally do not know any one who has graduated from this program but I plan to graduate because I want to become an MD!!:D

[Weather_Man]

How do you think it might joperdize regular students?


[quote=MD04;508350]Honestly Windsor is putting your life in danger while colleting your $$$$$$$. Everyone intersted in this program must check with your state and find out you able to get licence.
Min 32 mos required by most states in the USA.
Windsor new clinical coordinator has no idea about licencensing rules in the USA.

Windsor is trying to follow the UHSSOFM at Antigua. WINdsor's health sci program might joperdize regular students too.

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[MYMD]

Honestly Windsor is putting your life in danger while colleting your $$$$$$$. Everyone intersted in this program must check with your state and find out you able to get licence.
Min 32 mos required by most states in the USA.
Windsor new clinical coordinator has no idea about licencensing rules in the USA.

Windsor is trying to follow the UHSSOFM at Antigua. WINdsor's health sci program might joperdize regular students too.

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No short cut to MD.



I happen t agree with you, why take the risk for 6 months of time?

That makes my MD program 40 months well within guidelines.

16 months Basic sci and then 24 months of Clinicals. I think anything that looks like a shortcut ( and this does ) is just bad. Oh and I'm an RN with 17 years behind me too.:cool:

[DocKao]

I check many states rules for licensing and there are a few that have lists of schools not allowed. Many states still do not have rulings for distance learning. I think the states should take a closer look, but If you can complete it faster....Go for it! Talked to many Docs in US who have done just that and have their licenses and working. Not impossible. I know of a few docs who are practicing who went through distance learning, but they had difficult time and could have more difficulties later. Caribbean schools are all (no matter which one) looked at when it comes to licensing. But all in all it depends on the individual doc. Do a good job and your referrences will get you everywhere. It's who you know, not what.

[schlondra]

I happen t agree with you, why take the risk for 6 months of time?

That makes my MD program 40 months well within guidelines.

16 months Basic sci and then 24 months of Clinicals. I think anything that looks like a shortcut ( and this does ) is just bad. Oh and I'm an RN with 17 years behind me too.:cool:

I am also a nurse with a Masters of Science degree. There are other schools who also have a Health Professional program check with Miami University. They have a similar program (do the research I did) Your Med Program may have different guidelines but that is not the route I wanted. I never said that you only go for 6 months read the passage again. We attend class for two six week terms to complete a (one)semester or you can attend twelve weeks to complete the semester. Clinicals are 72 weeks. Think about it you are a nurse most of your science course work should be review. Short cuts can be a good thing if you can handle it. I know that I can I completed my Bachelors and Masters fast. Bachelors from Flagler College and my Masters from University of Central Florida. Oh by the way I am also pursuing a PH.D.:D

[schlondra]

How do you think it might joperdize regular students?


[quote=MD04;508350]Honestly Windsor is putting your life in danger while colleting your $$$$$$$. Everyone intersted in this program must check with your state and find out you able to get licence.
Min 32 mos required by most states in the USA.
Windsor new clinical coordinator has no idea about licencensing rules in the USA.

Windsor is trying to follow the UHSSOFM at Antigua. WINdsor's health sci program might joperdize regular students too.

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I do not think that Windsor is putting my life or other students life in danger. I am a nurse with a Masters Degree and I currently work in the field and I know that nurses are vital to the health care team most times we do 90% of the procedures per our physicians orders. Some of our docs ask the nurses to tell them what orders to write. Ohh now I am prescribing. it happens. I also checked my states plus some other states on licensing and practicing. I am from Florida and I can practice oh by the way there are only two states that we can not practice and that is California and New York. Windsor have not applied to New York Yet. they applied to California but they were a new school and they have to complete their new campus first so look out that is next. As for the money I do not mind paying for education believe me you get it back in ten folds. Education is the key. Acctually the cost is inexpensive compared to other schools.:D

P.S. I know doctors who have completed Health Professional Programs and they are working!!

[schlondra]

I check many states rules for licensing and there are a few that have lists of schools not allowed. Many states still do not have rulings for distance learning. I think the states should take a closer look, but If you can complete it faster....Go for it! Talked to many Docs in US who have done just that and have their licenses and working. Not impossible. I know of a few docs who are practicing who went through distance learning, but they had difficult time and could have more difficulties later. Caribbean schools are all (no matter which one) looked at when it comes to licensing. But all in all it depends on the individual doc. Do a good job and your referrences will get you everywhere. It's who you know, not what.


Windsor University is not a distance learning school you can not take test online at all. we have to attend calss so we will not have a problem with that.

[schlondra]

Do they supply housing and books? If you do 6 weeks at a time. wouldn't you actually need to do 12 weeks, because you end one and start another back to back. Do you have the schedule? for next year? What are the class load, is it difficult, Mon-Fri? Sorry about all the questions.


Yes they supply housing and books. You have the choice of 6 weeks or 12 weeks. I just did not want to drag it out because it takes two 6 week terms to complete a semester. When you complete 12 weeks that is one semester it is not stopped then continue the 6 weeks is a start stop then come back to complete that semester and also take on the new courses. The class load is not difficult. This is my first semster. I have Anatomy I, Embrology, Physiology I and II, (because I am doing 6 weeks this term then when I return I will convert to twelve weeks). Yes class is Monday-Friday.:D

[angelmd]

Hello!!

There is a Health Coordinated Program (Mentors In Medicine). I along with one of my fellow nurses started this program on September 11th 2006. The structure of the program is as follows: six weeks each semester (two six week terms completes a semester) so it would take you a total of eight semesters to finish you basic sciences. or you can choose to come for twelve weeks each semester and you would finish the your basis science courses in one year. then you would have a year and two weeks of clinicals then GRADUATION!!! we are completing the twelve week program.
Yes you are in class with the MD students but if you choose the six week program you will go the same pace for the six weeks then you will leave and when you come back you will start the new semester and finish taking the test that you have missed the prior semester. So your load is heavier. If you op to take the twelve week program you won't have to worry about the extra work you will be accelerated slightly because you will finish two weeks sooner than the MD students.
I personally do not know any one who has graduated from this program but I plan to graduate because I want to become an MD!!:D
Hello Schlondra!! I was hoping that you would respond to this post! We met just days before you left for St. Kitts in Orlando. I plan to attend in May 07. Please PM me.

[patbrant]

this is my first impression of windsor medical school. first and formost i am a practicing physician assistant for ten years. i enrolled in the mentors for medicine under the impression that it was geared for mid level providers. most of the people enrolled in this are nurses which is fine but today i find that there is a nurses aide. dr halpin who is the "mentor" is a piece of s---. he wants ypur money and then nothing else to do with or for you.
the staff at windsor are all helpful and courteous...i find the professors to be knowledgable, for the most part.
the biggest problem are the lack of maturity of some of the students, there are some young kids who need to grow up alot befor they start rotations/usmle step 1...when there are lots of kids and a few adults then everyone is treated like children.
the structure is lapidated... they are suppose to have a new campus but i think the upper management is unorganized and slow in thier critical descision making...
i am at the end of my 6 weeks here but plan a continual posting...i did gain my physician assistant degree at a medical school in usa...i had opportunity to attent US medical schools in usa but at this time i still think i have made the right decision.

[leadsled]

It's amazing how many online or online/some campus time medical schools are popping up. I'm sure foreign medical schools(especially carribean) will now be examined even further under the microscope.

By forming a medical school that allows the basic sciences to be taken partially on campus and the rest online, have these medical schools somehow found a loophole for licensing in the U.S?

The argument has been brought up many times in valuemd that many states require medical students to show that their passports were stamped, airline tickets. etc and that indeed you had a physical presence in the country where the medical school resides.

Does this sound like a loophole to fulfill those requirements? Do I hear diploma mill??

What's next? Will medical schools start requiring you to attend the first week of each semester and then you can go home and work for the rest of the semester to pay for their outrageous tuition?

[MDIN2009]

No part of this program is online! I think you have Windsor confused with the IUHS. Students that start med 1 will finish a 1 1/2 years sooner than the mentors for medicine will. There is no loop hole for licensing. Here is a link to the sate board requirements for NY and IL. Please check your facts before posting.



LINK NY (http://www.op.nysed.gov/medlic.htm)

LINK IL (http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/admincode/068/068012850A00200R.html)


It's amazing how many online or online/some campus time medical schools are popping up. I'm sure foreign medical schools(especially carribean) will now be examined even further under the microscope.

By forming a medical school that allows the basic sciences to be taken partially on campus and the rest online, have these medical schools somehow found a loophole for licensing in the U.S?

The argument has been brought up many times in valuemd that many states require medical students to show that their passports were stamped, airline tickets. etc and that indeed you had a physical presence in the country where the medical school resides.

Does this sound like a loophole to fulfill those requirements? Do I hear diploma mill??

What's next? Will medical schools start requiring you to attend the first week of each semester and then you can go home and work for the rest of the semester to pay for their outrageous tuition?

[leadsled]

Thank you for clarifying that Windsor's medical program is not online but in essence a part time MD program spread out over more months.

As far as facts go, I would say Valuemd forums are certainly not gospel! That's why we have these dialogs.

[AlgorithM]

this is my first impression of windsor medical school. first and formost i am a practicing physician assistant for ten years. i enrolled in the mentors for medicine under the impression that it was geared for mid level providers. most of the people enrolled in this are nurses which is fine but today i find that there is a nurses aide. dr halpin who is the "mentor" is a piece of s---. he wants ypur money and then nothing else to do with or for you.
the staff at windsor are all helpful and courteous...i find the professors to be knowledgable, for the most part.
the biggest problem are the lack of maturity of some of the students, there are some young kids who need to grow up alot befor they start rotations/usmle step 1...when there are lots of kids and a few adults then everyone is treated like children.
the structure is lapidated... they are suppose to have a new campus but i think the upper management is unorganized and slow in thier critical descision making...
i am at the end of my 6 weeks here but plan a continual posting...i did gain my physician assistant degree at a medical school in usa...i had opportunity to attent US medical schools in usa but at this time i still think i have made the right decision.
hey pal, im just gonna let you know that even janitors, orderlies or any hospital auxilliaries are considered and enrolled in the HCP for as long as they have $$$$$$$$$$. the bottom line here is $$$$$$$$ not the degree that you have. the acronym HCP is just a way of attracting the REAL HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS to be in the program without knowing that the services that they are getting is equal to the regular medical students. nothing is really special about the program only the additional 2000$ bucks that goes to someone who doesnt exists while the school program is in progress, he only surface during billing time. well pal good luck to your endeavor, if you wanna go on just sway and dance with the music. you can do nothing with this people, they are bunch of liars with a strong bond of conivance with each other .....like the mafia conspiracy.:p

[ironmic90]

Go..ALGY...I'm followin your lead!:D The CHA..CHA til I'm out the door!

I think my tagline sums it up nicely! Nuff said

[MDIN2009]

I agree with you guys to a point. Any school in the Caribbean will accept you as long as you can pay. And conversely if you are unable to take out a loan or pay they will not let you in no matter what you scored on the MCAT. Thus they are considered for profit schools. They will take your money and let you in...

Windsor's Mentors program is good for people that want to work and go to medical school. It will take you double the time of a regular medical student to complete Basic Sciences. And yes they do charge more...for that option. They will not give you advanced standing or credit because you are a healthcare professional or other. So the trade off is there time or money.
:shock:

Go..ALGY...I'm followin your lead!:D The CHA..CHA til I'm out the door!

I think my tagline sums it up nicely! Nuff said