Ross over AUC

[pedsurgery]

Did anyone choose to attend Ross over AUC and if so, why?

I have been accepted to both and I'm leaning towards Ross (more graduates, high usmle pass rate) but I keep reading about the terrible living conditions which I'm somewhat concerned about. How bad is it really?

[MylifeatDominica]

other than the living conditions, you should also be worried about the high failing rate. This semester, they accepted over 400 students, but the biggest classroom on campus can only accept problem about 300 or so students. So it is guranteed that they will fail probably 100 students in just first semester.

[AxlFoley]

It is true, I mean Ross accepts A LOT of students..and it has been rising big time (i think). But again, Ross is a business too, unfortunately. However, I dont think that should deter anyone from pursuing their ultimate goals. From what I remember the first couple semesters seem like a "weeding" out process. But again, if you do your thing and STUDY then you shouldnt have a problem.
Now I know thats easier said than done...but do keep in mind that this is med school, in theory you should be working your a** off no matter where you are.

[AxlFoley]

I did choose Ross over AUC. Thinkin back now on it, I realize its actually a pretty important decision. Just to start, let me say that I dont think you can go wrong with either school. Not to sound like an after school special, but your gonna have to work hard regardless which carib school your at. However there are differences... I did choose Ross, because I knew more students that came through here. Teaching is good, and board oriented as well. Ross students do really really well actually on their steps. I actually just took mine this summer and got 220's plus, so I was happy with how Ross prepared me. It also appears to be that my fellow students are getting pretty good residency positions as well. (But then again, I can't say anything about AUC, since I dont truly know)

Now living conditions...are quite "different". I mean it is a third world country so it takes some getting used to. However if you look around it is possible to find some really nice places to live (not Bellagio style), but you get what I'm sayin. (I can tell you about my places later if you want). AUC definately from what I hear is much nicer (of course). I did a have a hard time choosing as well. But for me, I felt as if, I am not there to relax or enjoy the island. 90% of the time i was studying (with freinds in library, apt, class, pbl, etc), and that is the real task. Plus with the island being so "green" and not as commercially-touristy developed, they are very few distractions. Plus, its only 16 months (with several 2 week breaks in between), and once its done, its done. But bottom line, is that you got to find out what kind of environment suits you and your study needs.
As for me, I cant complain with my decision to go to the "rock"..and I dont regret it at all.

[popozao]

pick either. you're still gonna have to memorize the same info. st marten is gonna cost you more. it's not a dump like dominica is. dominica is the ugliest place i've ever been to, though i didn't mind living there

[Cuando2]

pick either. you're still gonna have to memorize the same info. st marten is gonna cost you more. it's not a dump like dominica is. dominica is the ugliest place i've ever been to, though i didn't mind living there

While I'm probably the last person to provide positive comments on how Dominica was, I wouldn't go as far to say that its the ugliest place I've been to. Its way better than that...the above poster has probably just visited places like the US and Canada for all we know, or the cleanest nations of Europe. Regardless, the island of dominica will definately run your camera dry of film/free card space due to the number of picture-perfect moments it provides.

there are OTHER things about dominica that make it undesireable, such as the greedy citizens who live there, etc.

ANYWAY, like the above poster said, you're still gonna have to know the same info. the experience is essentially similar in the end i'd presume, meaning you're still an FMG and will be declined to high hell from several programs, and be constantly barraged by family/friends about the integrity of your education. good luck

[opnr2k2]

AUC

Basic Science Tuition: $11,000/semester
Clinical Science Tuition: $12,000/semesterROSS

Basic Science Tuition: $12,125/semester
Clinical Science Tuition: $13,250/semesterSGU

Basic Science Tuition & Admin Fees: Terms 1, 2, 4 = $17,903 (per term, each term)
Term 3, 5 = $6,587 (per term, each term)
Term 6 = $13,172

:)

[Student_02]

I'm doing a rotation right now with a couple of AUC kids -- besides that they're from AUC, they're just like ross kids...I've met some that are very bright... Like someone said earlier, you can't go wrong with either one.. just depends how you want to live..

[microphage]

I'm doing a rotation right now with a couple of AUC kids -- besides that they're from AUC, they're just like ross kids...I've met some that are very bright... Like someone said earlier, you can't go wrong with either one.. just depends how you want to live..

I'm at Kern with Ross and SGU students. U can almost always pick out the Ross students by the way they look at real food. It's like they haven't eaten in awhile or something. :twisted:

[Shah_Patel_PT]

pick either. you're still gonna have to memorize the same info. st marten is gonna cost you more. it's not a dump like dominica is. dominica is the ugliest place i've ever been to, though i didn't mind living there

Dominica may be a dump...but it is a much safer place to live in!

I chose the safe little dump!

[anencephalic]

I'm doing a rotation right now with a couple of AUC kids -- besides that they're from AUC, they're just like ross kids...I've met some that are very bright... Like someone said earlier, you can't go wrong with either one.. just depends how you want to live..


Yep...and they're just like the SGU kids too...once your at the level of clinicals, it's like you're one big happily dysfunctional family.

[popozao]

and be constantly barraged by family/friends about the integrity of your education.



i dread that part. so i don't even tell them. i might tell them when i'm 40 and settled in.

[HocusPocus]

lol so what do you plan to say while you're away at school? You temporarily fell off the face of this earth?

[FoxTrot]

i dread that part. so i don't even tell them. i might tell them when i'm 40 and settled in.

:confused:

So whats your story going to be when you're gone for 16 months?

[Terminator X]

I will be proud when (by God's grace) I receive my M.D. degree from Ross U. I will tell everybody that I graduated from a school that give me a oppurtunity to fulfill my dream. If any of my family try to invalidate my education, I will ask them to research before making their judgement. Considering that I am the only one to go to college in my family and only one to consider a career in medicine, they have nothing to say!

Plus we can always compare our total earnings a year, lol!:D

[opnr2k2]

Its never really what school you go to...its what you do at that school that matters! The education you gain from your respective schools should speak for itself. If you able to hold ground with studnets from amercian students then there is no difference.

If anyones tries to degrade you by what school your going too, they obviously
falling into the classic sterotype of foreign school not being up to par with american schools. Ask them to reasearch alittle and they will notice that there are many MDs around them that have not been schooled in u.s.a. and yet they are doing very well.

Not everyone is a Dr.nick
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[teratos]

Just a simple search would have yielded the answer to the question. :rolleyes:

[ds_in_tx]

Dominica may be a dump...but it is a much safer place to live in!

I chose the safe little dump!

I'm just about to begin to believe that the recent crime wave was just that -- a wave, with a positive slope, apex, and negative slope.

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I haven't heard any particularly brutal student-oriented crime on SXM lately...

[Cuando2]

lol so what do you plan to say while you're away at school? You temporarily fell off the face of this earth?

i knew a student who did not divulge to her own family that she attended Ross in Dominica, and that in fact, she was in podiatry school or something on the US coast opposite of her home.

[HocusPocus]

hmm.. interesting..... not really actually..

[phisigman03]

other than the living conditions, you should also be worried about the high failing rate. This semester, they accepted over 400 students, but the biggest classroom on campus can only accept problem about 300 or so students. So it is guranteed that they will fail probably 100 students in just first semester.


SO how do they pick who to pass and who to fail???? Apparently it is not the school that fails them but they just fail to do the work to pass. Stop making all of this nonsense post.

[HocusPocus]

hmm.. well from what I heard (by a recent Ross graduate, currently doing his residency in NY), the school automatically fails the bottom 1/3 of the class regardless of their grades (passing or failing). If you're in the bottom 1/3, you fail, simple as that.

[Shah_Patel_PT]

hmm.. well from what I heard (by a recent Ross graduate, currently doing his residency in NY), the school automatically fails the bottom 1/3 of the class regardless of their grades (passing or failing). If you're in the bottom 1/3, you fail, simple as that.

The bottom third....is also the group that fail to make the MPS (min passing score)...

SO you can really look at it both ways..

[MylifeatDominica]

yes, just in case you don't know, first semesters have like 6 subjects. even if they only fail one, they will have to repeat the whole semester.

[phisigman03]

yes, just in case you don't know, first semesters have like 6 subjects. even if they only fail one, they will have to repeat the whole semester.


apparently not smart stuff. There are ~20 people in my class who are only taking anatomy becasue that is what they failed.

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

ok i have a friend at ross now and i just asked him the question about failing. I JUST asked him now on AOL instant messenger and here it is (not giving his AIM name for security reasons):

DrJeKyLL95: quick question....if u fail a class at ross do u have to repeat the whole semester??? or just that one class?

drjekyll95's friend who is at ross: if you fail but are above 50 in sem 1 and 3 then you move on but on probation but sem 2 and 4 you repeat

sorry for the big letters but i dont know how to make them smaller!! hope this is clear enough. peace.

[Shah_Patel_PT]

ok i have a friend at ross now and i just asked him the question about failing. I JUST asked him now on AOL instant messenger and here it is (not giving his AIM name for security reasons):

DrJeKyLL95: quick question....if u fail a class at ross do u have to repeat the whole semester??? or just that one class?

drjekyll95's friend who is at ross: if you fail but are above 50 in sem 1 and 3 then you move on but on probation but sem 2 and 4 you repeat

sorry for the big letters but i dont know how to make them smaller!! hope this is clear enough. peace.



Whats so special about 2 and 4???

[liqu0rleadstocha0s]

Whats so special about 2 and 4???

he was in a hurry and signed off as soon as he answered so i couldnt ask him...ill ask him later