Path II

[medicine09]

hi,
for those of you already taken the class, any advice on how to do well in the class? read the book? just follow the prof lectures? I heard it is a very tough class.

thx :cool:

[Baditude]

If Dr. B is teaching he does a very good jo with helping you learn the material in class and his reviews are great. I have no idea what to do about Dr. R he is a super nice guy but his exams kill me. From what everyone said you need to read Robbins and then add that info into his notes and memorize it all. The class is not that hard if you keep up with the material and you pay attention in class.

[you_make_me_sick]

is dr z gone now? for dr r, to do well in the class, study his notes. then study goljan audio, rrs, and/or kaplan on the side.

[mat09]

yes Dr. Z has left the school.

[you_make_me_sick]

yes Dr. Z has left the school.thats a loss for smu. but hopefully he will be happy finally practicing in the usa. i hear the new guy dr b is excellent too. no surprise smu is moving on up.

[euphoria]

We should not expect a lot from the

[you_make_me_sick]

Dr. Z is the only professor at SMU who passed all the USMLE Steps and knows what these exams all about! I can't believe how they let him go! How can others tell you what is important and what is not if they had never taken any of these exams?i dont think smu wanted him to go. i think dr z had plans all along to get back to the us to practice. he finally must have gotten his entrance paperwork approved. thats the problem with caribbean schools. not enough incentive to keep excellent professors. from what i hear the new pathology professor dr b is excellent. maybe even better than dr z.

[Kofi]

Dr. G is another big loss for SMU. I was surprised when he left. He graduted from University of British Columbia, school of medicine and had tons of qualifications. What is happening to this school? Who make these decisions?

[LqdPls]

Is this Pharm. Dr. G?

[spyyder]

SMU needs to do like ross and hire some "has been" retired professors who have nothing left to live for, but teach. Young teachers don't like to stay in one place. However this in an incentive for SMU as they don't have to spend money on pay raises. However living in the caymans should be an incentive. Perhaps SMU isn't paying enough.

[AmericanIMG]

dr Z was NOT the best teacher. i had him for latter part of PathI and PathII. in prepping for the step i can see just how many things he skipped or blew off. he was in love with cancer and just cancer, and he easily made that over 50% of the lectures. path is much more then that.

the harvard profs that came in and taught pathI were prob the best profs that i had at SMU, next to Dr. G for Pharm/Clin Thera, and the psych prof. dr H.

best bet for path is the Goljan Path book/audio, along w/ Robbins for clarification. also use that First Aid while you are in the class, it helps big time come step.

gLuck

[AmericanIMG]

i think the teachers that leave...well Cayman is NOT a cheap place to live. combine that with a salary that some accountants make on the island and you can see the problem.

retired profs that want to live in Cayman are the best way to go. maybe offer them free housing during their stay in a small house in WBay or a condo in wBay. i am sure that would bring great faculty there.

[LqdPls]

i think the teachers that leave...well Cayman is NOT a cheap place to live. combine that with a salary that some accountants make on the island and you can see the problem.

retired profs that want to live in Cayman are the best way to go. maybe offer them free housing during their stay in a small house in WBay or a condo in wBay. i am sure that would bring great faculty there.

The relative concept of good vs bad likely would not exist if attracting great faculty was as easy as sticking them into a "small house in WBay". Furthermore, it is absolutely useless to bring in some old guy who cant teach with a 10 page CV, every possible professional degree, and a bunch of awards and publications that nobody really cares about.

That is exactly the problem with the university system in the US.......hey give us a 100G and we'll stick a caricature of a “has been” right in front of you, who will teach you absolutely nothing, but hey he did something or another a 100 years ago.

In my opinion, in the last 2 semesters or so, SMU has brought in some great professors including Path, Neuro, and Histo. But given our own cultural bias, it maybe easy to dismiss any professor as a great teacher in the absence of labels on his or her sleeve.

Therefore, i'll take those guys from India, who know Path really well, to replace Dr. Z any day of the week. Furthermore, if the recent hires by SMU are a foreshadowing of SMU’s future including current professors like Dr. N (micro), Dr. H (Psych), and Dr. G (Pharm, whose class by the way recorded one of the highest shelf scores in the Caribbean), then i think we'll do just fine without someone else’s glorified “sloppy seconds”.

[mat09]

Almost all the good professors we had and have are indians or arabs and I don't see any problem in that as long as they teach us well. And good percentage of doctors in the U.S. is made up of people from Middle East,Pakistan,India and Far East so its better to shed silly biasis and learn to live and work with diverse group of individuals.

[AmericanIMG]

most def, Dr G was probably the best prof that i had in Cayman. he was not only a good teacher, but also accessible, and IMO truly cared for the students not only learning the material but also in general.

as far as an old prof coming to Cayman and them being washed up, Dr A was one of those "washed up" profs awhile back, and his Neuro class repeatedly had some of the highest shelf exam grades at SMU.

the profs at KMC (from where both the Pharm profs taught) are some of the best in the world. SMU should take advantage of the immigration laws in Cayman and grab as many of them as they can. with the highest salary out there being roughly 12,000 USD a year, i am sure that SMU can have their pick.

[LqdPls]

......as far as an old prof coming to Cayman and them being washed up, Dr A was one of those "washed up" profs awhile back, and his Neuro class repeatedly had some of the highest shelf exam grades at SMU.

the profs at KMC (from where both the Pharm profs taught) are some of the best in the world. SMU should take advantage of the immigration laws in Cayman and grab as many of them as they can. with the highest salary out there being roughly 12,000 USD a year, i am sure that SMU can have their pick.

current Dr. S (neuro) is just as good as Dr. A if not better, just ask some of the SABA students. I would also hesitate to call a guy like Dr. A "washed up", considering that he did leave SMU for a US school, and more importantly he was a great professor, no matter how old he was.

Essentially this is one of the pitfalls of having great professors teach in the Cribbean....once US schools come calling, there is little that actually stops these professors from leaving........and money is not the only incentive.

As far as Pharm. is concerned i was actually referring to Dr. G right here in the Caymans, whose recent Pharm class recorded one of the highest shelf scores in the Caribbean.

In relation to KMC professors, the hierarchy of their quality relative to the world, universe, etc. is obviously more of an argument than an absolute statement. Actually they dont have to be "the best in the world", they just have to be good, and i think the list of good professors right here in the Caymans is growing everyday.

[Kofi]

Is this Pharm. Dr. G?

No Dr. G was a clinical medicine professor not Pharm!

[euphoria]

dr Z was NOT the best teacher. i had him for latter part of PathI and PathII. in prepping for the step i can see just how many things he skipped or blew off. he was in love with cancer and just cancer, and he easily made that over 50% of the lectures. path is much more then that.

the harvard profs that came in and taught pathI were prob the best profs that i had at SMU, next to Dr. G for Pharm/Clin Thera, and the psych prof. dr H.

best bet for path is the Goljan Path book/audio, along w/ Robbins for clarification. also use that First Aid while you are in the class, it helps big time come step.

gLuck

AmericanIMG I did not say Dr. Z was the best professor! I said I would trust someone who sat for the steps and saw the exam so he knows what is important other than others who did not and second I disagree with you that Dr. Z only teach Cancer! I was in his class like other and no one said that.

[euphoria]

current Dr. S (neuro) is just as good as Dr. A if not better, just ask some of the SABA students. I would also hesitate to call a guy like Dr. A "washed up", considering that he did leave SMU for a US school, and more importantly he was a great professor, no matter how old he was.

Essentially this is one of the pitfalls of having great professors teach in the Cribbean....once US schools come calling, there is little that actually stops these professors from leaving........and money is not the only incentive.

As far as Pharm. is concerned i was actually referring to Dr. G right here in the Caymans, whose recent Pharm class recorded one of the highest shelf scores in the Caribbean.

In relation to KMC professors, the hierarchy of their quality relative to the world, universe, etc. is obviously more of an argument than an absolute statement. Actually they dont have to be "the best in the world", they just have to be good, and i think the list of good professors right here in the Caymans is growing everyday.

I agree 100% with you about Dr. S! He is as good if not better than Dr. A. Not sure about Dr. G.

[euphoria]

The relative concept of good vs bad likely would not exist if attracting great faculty was as easy as sticking them into a "small house in WBay". Furthermore, it is absolutely useless to bring in some old guy who cant teach with a 10 page CV, every possible professional degree, and a bunch of awards and publications that nobody really cares about.

That is exactly the problem with the university system in the US.......hey give us a 100G and we'll stick a caricature of a “has been” right in front of you, who will teach you absolutely nothing, but hey he did something or another a 100 years ago.

In my opinion, in the last 2 semesters or so, SMU has brought in some great professors including Path, Neuro, and Histo. But given our own cultural bias, it maybe easy to dismiss any professor as a great teacher in the absence of labels on his or her sleeve.

Therefore, i'll take those guys from India, who know Path really well, to replace Dr. Z any day of the week. Furthermore, if the recent hires by SMU are a foreshadowing of SMU’s future including current professors like Dr. N (micro), Dr. H (Psych), and Dr. G (Pharm, whose class by the way recorded one of the highest shelf scores in the Caribbean), then i think we'll do just fine without someone else’s glorified “sloppy seconds”.

Sorry, but it seems that you have some personal issues with Dr. Z or you may want an easy way out because all know that his exam is hard! I have never seen any student says anything negative about him.

[euphoria]

I guess Dr. A and Dr. S are the best professor ever came to SMU so far!

[LqdPls]

Sorry, but it seems that you have some personal issues with Dr. Z or you may want an easy way out because all know that his exam is hard! I have never seen any student says anything negative about him.

I did just fine on Dr. Z's exams. But his replacements are in fact just as good if not better. Furthermore, the temporary status of some professors at SMU is essentially a testament of their quality. Many were recruited to postions in the US, and it is simply unrealistic at this point to expect that SMU or any other Caribbean school should be able to match those opportunities available in the US or Canada.

By the way, I humor myself by writing on this forum, because the truth is that I can adapt to any professor or teaching style........you will never get excuses from me. What I know, and how much, absolutley depends on my ability and effort, nothing more. Therefore, no matter how difficult the exam or whether it is Dr. R, X, Y, or Z, what i produce or fail to deliver at the end of the day, is the product of my doing and my responsibility only.

and one more thing..........Dr. Z was good........but not nearly as good as what i heard before going into the 3rd semester, and i could care less how difficult his exams were......definitely had no impact on my grade. But in my opinion, and in the opinion of many in my class, his replacements are more than satisfactory (i doubt there is anything negative or personal about this statement).

[Kofi]

I did just fine on Dr. Z's exams. But his replacements are in fact just as good if not better. Furthermore, the temporary status of some professors at SMU is essentially a testament of their quality. Many were recruited to postions in the US, and it is simply unrealistic at this point to expect that SMU or any other Caribbean school should be able to match those opportunities available in the US or Canada.

By the way, I humor myself by writing on this forum, because the truth is that I can adapt to any professor or teaching style........you will never get excuses from me. What I know, and how much, absolutley depends on my ability and effort, nothing more. Therefore, no matter how difficult the exam or whether it is Dr. R, X, Y, or Z, what i produce or fail to deliver at the end of the day, is the product of my doing and my responsibility only.

and one more thing..........Dr. Z was good........but not nearly as good as what i heard before going into the 3rd semester, and i could care less how difficult his exams were......definitely had no impact on my grade. But in my opinion, and in the opinion of many in my class, his replacements are more than satisfactory (i doubt there is anything negative or personal about this statement).

When I had Dr. Z for the Path I, he was teaching 2 courses! This was I guess the same semester you had him too for Path I. I met with him in his office and he was tired and unhappy at the adminstration at Cayman giving up easily Dr. C, the English professor! second, not all Indians professors are really good, I don't have to remind you of Dr. J, Dr. B (anatomy) and even Dr. R! I guess Dr>

[LqdPls]

When I had Dr. Z for the Path I, he was teaching 2 courses! This was I guess the same semester you had him too for Path I. I met with him in his office and he was tired and unhappy at the adminstration at Cayman giving up easily Dr. C, the English professor!.....

Dr. C, do you mean the guy from Canada who graduated from Harvard and taught at AUC at some point? The guy taught PathII and from what i heard it seems that he spent more time talking about his life than actually teaching Pathology.

[LqdPls]

....second, not all Indians professors are really good, I don't have to remind you of Dr. J, Dr. B (anatomy) and even Dr. R!....>

not all professors with the 'Harvard' label in their CV are really good either.

[Kofi]

Dr. C, do you mean the guy from Canada who graduated from Harvard and taught at AUC at some point? The guy taught PathII and from what i heard it seems that he spent more time talking about his life than actually teaching Pathology.

See how you mix up again! That is Dr. D, not Dr. C! You already forgot his name?

[mat09]

How are Dr. B's exams like? I found Dr. R's exams to be very doable but I was wondering how Dr. B writes his exams and whether his power points and class notes are enough? web path and Robbins type of questions?

[Baditude]

Dr.B writes his exams himself and they are very straightforward. If you have done the practice questions he gives out then you have seen his question writting style. His notes are more than enough but if you have the time do web path and if you can explain why each option is wrong or right you will be fine on his exams. He will on occasion use part of a webpath question stem but change the focus around so if you know all the reasonings for what was right and wrong then you will be good to go.

[mat09]

thanks for replying.

[unknownunknown]

not all professors with the 'Harvard' label in their CV are really good either.


Dr. R (for stats) is good, he's a double Ph.D.
As well as the Renal professor, he's from Duke.

[DRJJ1]

Dr. R (for stats) is good, he's a double Ph.D.
As well as the Renal professor, he's from Duke.

RENAL OR ANAL PROFESSOR? A LOT OF GUYS ARE RENAL BUT THEN AGAIN