Memorial Regional Hospital, Hollywood, FL

[ducman]

Memorial Regional Hospital, Hollywood, FL

[Locuscoeruleus22]

This hospital is not green book....no one rotates there I guess

[BCgirl]

Hollywood Memorial Regional hospital is affiliated with Mt Sinai medical hospital in Miami and surgery residents rotate through there so it is Green book. I had to have "green book" rotations for my cores to get my permit for New Jersey (2nd year residency) and I rotated through Hollywood Memorial.
On AMA Freida under Mt Sinai, Miami, Hollywood Memorial is listed as a participant.

[swinginislanddoc]

This rotation is greenbook, and a lot of people rotate there actually. Myself included.

[bhs2a]

What cores can be done here? And can anyone give a review of the program?

[oncojut]

The only core that you can do here, unless you make a good conenction, is surgery. I did have a classmates who was able to land a Peds rotation there after his surgery rotation. But, I'm really not too sure how he did that. I guess he made buddies with someone important.

I rotated through Memorial a while back. So, maybe things are different know. it was pretty rough when I was there. The call was q3 and the main focus of the rotation is Trauma Surg. You'll get a handful of general surgery cases. And, you'll cover gensurg and trauma while you're on-call. It was a pretty fast paced rotation. The trauma cases were great. I learned how to "think on my feet" and to perform under pressure. Teh attendings were alright. I think two of three that were there when I rotated through there have now moved to different places.

Overall, I enjoyed my rotation. I think people's experiences at Memoerial tend to vary quite drastically.

[ducman]

Oncojut,

Great info... thanx.

Isn't one of the attendings a co-author of Surgical Recall?

[oncojut]

Oncojut,

Great info... thanx.

Isn't one of the attendings a co-author of Surgical Recall?

Yeah...actually there were two attendings there that were both major contributors to Advanced Surgical Recall. So, it pays to have that book on hand. Both of those guys pimp straight from that book.

[bhs2a]

Thanks for the details. I'm a long way from clinicals but I'm not a NY kind of girl so I am keeping up on what else is out there.

[oncojut]

Thanks for the details. I'm a long way from clinicals but I'm not a NY kind of girl so I am keeping up on what else is out there.

Anytime. It's good that you're getting info on all your options. It will definitely help come rotation time.

[swinginislanddoc]

Oncojut,

Great info... thanx.

Isn't one of the attendings a co-author of Surgical Recall?



Hey ducky!

Actually F.H. was only there for a year - he's actually employed by Jackson Memorial (U of FL Miami). They have some sort of program where he travels around. He was one of those contributors. I know all of this because 1) He left during my rotation and 2) we kept in contact. Actually another one of the attendings, Dr. L, (the TLS guy) left there as well. Drs C. and S are still there.

One of my friends also did Peds there but as far as I know it is NOT greenbook.

~S

[js_paramedic_1979]

does anyone have suggestions/info on housing?

thanks

JS

[js_paramedic_1979]

Well.. I guess the weather will be nice.. I could just sleep on the beach... From what I hear, I won't be spending much time in an apt if I do find one.. I'm still looking for any suggestions from previous/current students..
Thanks

[nycteena]

To everyone that is going here for surgery........... know that there are a couple of pitfalls.

1) trauma focus.... so you have to figure out the general surgery schedule and find out who the attending is then ask permission to attend every day. No help from the trauma dept in arranging this.

2) the PA's pretty much run the show......... so kiss their butt. At the end of the rotation the attendings and PA's sit around a table and determine you score. The PA's are the most vocal, so if you have pissed them off, they won't tell you to your face, but just wait to the end to make sure you get a bad score. PA's with the most influence: 1) ***** then 2) *****. ***** isn't very vendictive, but ***** is.

3) the director is a yeller, so just say yes sir and take his insults. If you fight with him it will get you no where.

Other than that, there are only 2 residents there so if you are interested there are a lot of opportunities to do stuff. Just a lot of politics to deal with.

[wolfvgang22]

Thank you for posting. I'm sorry to hear these things.

PA's rating med student performance? Unacceptable.
I doubt these same PA's would stand for residents grading them back when they were in training.

Of course the attending should consult staff as part of the team while forming his or her own opinion, but ideally the responsibility for grading students should never be abdicated like this. End of rotation evaluations are important feedback that we are paying for in both money and sweat to make us better physicians. Negligence and abuse of students do not make better physicians any more than kicking a dog makes a good pet.

I hope you pass on this info in your eval of the rotation to Saba (not that it will change much, but one can hope).

In the same vein, it really chafes me that many attending physicians blow off these evaluations. In essence they are saying "students don't matter and are not worth my time to evaluate properly."

Perhaps we need to see all kinds of physicians during clinical rotations to decide what kind we want to become.

[jay.shah.222]

Anyone have info on housing? Any help would be awesome. Thanks

[js_paramedic_1979]

Finding housing in this area on a medical student's budget is pretty tough. I would suggest searching Craig's list daily. Also, try to contact anyone from your class or the class above you who recently rotated in FL.. One final suggestion would be to find out who you're starting the rotation with (the school will usually tell you, if you explain why you want to know). If there is someone you can get along with, consider splitting a place. 2bdrms are easier to find, and more affordable... Sorry I don't have any specific #'s for you to call.

In response to the other comments above, I agree that it is very upsetting when evaluations are not taken seriously. Unless things have changed, the evaluations for medical students were discussed by the entire team.. They were filled out and signed by Dr. R. PA-student evals were completed by the PA's. With that being said, my eval was missed for some reason. It was sent to the school more than 6 weeks after I finished the rotation, and it was obviously a last minute job. Unfortunately, I felt very much unrewarded for my work as the student leader, my q 2 call shifts, and my constant dedication to the program. All-in-all, I guess it pushed me even harder during future rotations. Thankfully, the LOR's were more thoughtfully prepared, and I did manage to secure a surgical residency position!!

[Gigi25]

Anyone done an ER rotation at Memorial? Not sure if this rotation is always available to Saba students, but I'm trying to set it up. Also, for those who did surgery there, where the calls overnight? If so, was there an on call room for students?

[js_paramedic_1979]

Not sure about EM.. It should be a good rotation though.. The ED is always busy.. They usually have NOVA students rotating, so they should be ready for students.

Surgery call is overnight. There is a student call room next door to the 4th year resident's room.. Two single beds in a pretty large room.. There are usually 2 students on at a time unless they've changed things..

Hope this helps..

[Gigi25]

Not sure about EM.. It should be a good rotation though.. The ED is always busy.. They usually have NOVA students rotating, so they should be ready for students.

Surgery call is overnight. There is a student call room next door to the 4th year resident's room.. Two single beds in a pretty large room.. There are usually 2 students on at a time unless they've changed things..

Hope this helps..

Thanks JS,
I just got approved by the hospital. Just have to have the school approve it. I know it's a level I trauma center, so I should get some exposure.
gigi

[shouldabeenadentist]

Just wanted to give the lowdown on Memorial, as it is right now. If you are interested in surgery, than this probably isnt a good rotation because it is trauma oriented, and you really wont get to see all to many surgeries. Its much more like a glorifyed secretarial job, where all you do is write notes that nobody reads, and than get yelled at for nothing.
Morning starts at 530 ( and they make u pay for parking, unless you want to get here at 5am instead, than its free). Write 4 to 5 notes on pts and wait for the attending to come by, ignore what you wrote and if you are lucky you as well, if unlucky than criticise you for just standing there, not teach you anything. granted most learning is done on your own, but it would be nice to be taught for the 15000 dollarsr it costs to be here. The PA's here are mean, very mean, and talk ill of te med students, and by the way they grade you. So start puckering up.
The on call schedule is ridiculous and illegal by the way, working over 80 hours a week, sometimes up to 100. If you are ok with this than this is your rotation. If you are like me and would like time to go home and study, than you may not enjoy it. Nothing worse than working 32 hours straight with no sleep, only to have some angry attending be mean to you for no reason.
My advice, dont come here if you dont have to.

[wolfvgang22]

Just wanted to give the lowdown on Memorial, as it is right now. If you are interested in surgery, than this probably isnt a good rotation because it is trauma oriented, and you really wont get to see all to many surgeries. Its much more like a glorifyed secretarial job, where all you do is write notes that nobody reads, and than get yelled at for nothing.
Morning starts at 530 ( and they make u pay for parking, unless you want to get here at 5am instead, than its free). Write 4 to 5 notes on pts and wait for the attending to come by, ignore what you wrote and if you are lucky you as well, if unlucky than criticise you for just standing there, not teach you anything. granted most learning is done on your own, but it would be nice to be taught for the 15000 dollarsr it costs to be here. The PA's here are mean, very mean, and talk ill of te med students, and by the way they grade you. So start puckering up.
The on call schedule is ridiculous and illegal by the way, working over 80 hours a week, sometimes up to 100. If you are ok with this than this is your rotation. If you are like me and would like time to go home and study, than you may not enjoy it. Nothing worse than working 32 hours straight with no sleep, only to have some angry attending be mean to you for no reason.
My advice, dont come here if you dont have to.
Sounds a lot like most surgery rotations as far as time requirements, and crabby people, not much fun. In fact, one of my medicine months was like this, too. :p
The hours aren't illegal though, as far as I know the 80 hour work rule is for residents, and does not apply to students - it is up to the school to protect students with agreements with the medical student coordinator for surgery at the hospital. From what med student coordinators in the past have told me at other hospitals, Saba tells them there are no restrictions or holidays required for Saba students. It is thus up to the merciful nature of the medical student coordinator, residents, and attendings to provide a reasonable schedule for Saba students. In contrast, U.S. medical students typically get most federal holidays off and do call on a schedule set by their medical school. Use that info how you will.

I am sorry to hear that the attendings and PA's are difficult to get along with and appear disinterested in students! Do you see or work with residents any? Having to pay for parking is terrible. Is this your first rotation? I hope not, sounds like a poor rotation from an educational standpoint from your description, unless building character through adversity is the lesson intended.

For those who want a humane surgery schedule and still learn a lot about surgery, with staff and residents that like students, get your hands on patients, and have a small amount of reading time, I recommend the Kansas City VA hospital. You do have to be aggressive, though, and ask to do minor procedures and extra surgeries to get an A, which is not a problem because you have the time.

[amyames]

has anyone recently completed this rotation or know someone who has? if so, I'd like some information!!!

Is the overnight call schedule still 2 students per call?
Do the PA's still make life not so easy for students?
Can you see any surgery you want as long as you sign up?
How man surgeries do you see a day?
Can you work SICU if you want or is it just main floor and OR?
Do they teach or just pimp?

any recent experiences would be great! (i'm asking for a friend)

[mrkaleel]

has anyone recently completed this rotation or know someone who has? if so, I'd like some information!!!

Is the overnight call schedule still 2 students per call?
Do the PA's still make life not so easy for students?
Can you see any surgery you want as long as you sign up?
How man surgeries do you see a day?
Can you work SICU if you want or is it just main floor and OR?
Do they teach or just pimp?

any recent experiences would be great! (i'm asking for a friend)


Overnight is 2 students per call, if theres only 6 students then theres a call every 3 days, if theres 20 students then theres only 3 calls a month.

PA's are very friendly and helpful for the most part, they each have their personality.

You can see all the surgeries you want as long as you do your work of writing notes in the morning before morning rounds, unless you're on call that day.

Half the rotation is spent in SICU and the other half in floor. You can spend more of the rotation in the icu if you ask.

Depends on the attending, they tend to pimp more than they teach, but they encourage us to go to as many surgeries as we want and to read on all topics before going to any surgery. We are supposed to look at the surgery list the day before.