Someone set this straight

[Jezzielin]

I was having a physical today and yet ran into another person saying beware of the carribean, not because of any stigma, but residency. Why is everyone saying this is so impossible or difficult! If my boards are as good as US schools or better, should I have a problem?

I want to respond to these comments people give me!

[singer]

I was having a physical today and yet ran into another person saying beware of the carribean, not because of any stigma, but residency. Why is everyone saying this is so impossible or difficult! If my boards are as good as US schools or better, should I have a problem?

I want to respond to these comments people give me!

Why don't you tell the people to look at the ROSS website and see where students have gotten their residencies. Not the same as if you went to Harvard Medical but great considering you couldn't get into a US medical school you will eventually be doing what you have dreamed , being an MD.

[jameslynton]

... and yet ran into another person saying beware of the carribean, ....but residency. Why is everyone saying this is so impossible or difficult! If my boards are as good as US schools or better, should I have a problem? I want to respond to these comments people give me!
Look at the SGU, AUC, Ross and Saba website. Even the St James website has grads posted who matched. But consider this - call it the put down factor - as an island school grad you will have to work harder and score better than US grads to get about the same treatment as a US grad. Reason - history going back to SGU and UAG in the 70's. It was a new pathway around the US medical establisment. Few US schools have added more seat since the 70's. So there is the snob angle. RROD said it well in one of his posts - If he had gone to a US school he would most likely get the residency he wants (surgery) but going to an Island school there is a loss of surity in getting his choice. (Sorry RROD if I did not phase this as well as you did. Feel free to set me straight if I got your intent wrong.) Most island grads wind up in primary care - family medicine main reason - that's where the most jobs are right now. There is a great thread on the Saba forum where schools - matches and residency are compared. I think it is titled "Hey Guys" read that it will clear lots up for you. just my .02s. Lot of hard work and analysis in that thread.
J

[Dru]

Be VERY assured that Ross grads get excellent residency slots. I work in a large metropolitan ICU, and our medical center gets 2 to 5 Rossie grads each year as residents. They are some of the best docs, btw.

[brob311]

When I had my physicals, my physician didn't really give a response when I told her what I was getting my physical for. She was older and she didn't really know much about Caribb schools. It seems that the older Dr's either were not in school when Caribb schools showed up, or they (Caribb schools) were in their rough beginnings. My wife's OB is younger (for an MD) and he had lots of friends who are good Dr's from Ross, and said that I would be just fine going there. You are going to get mixed reactions, and like the others have said, yes it is going to be harder than a US MD grad to get the residency you want, but in the end nothing is impossible and you will become an MD. Keep in mind that just b/c you are a US MD that you are not guaranteed the residency you want either. There will always be a critic.

[FRNC]

I was having a physical today and yet ran into another person saying beware of the carribean, not because of any stigma, but residency. Why is everyone saying this is so impossible or difficult! If my boards are as good as US schools or better, should I have a problem?

I want to respond to these comments people give me!
For FP or IM it will be difficult for you to decide between numerous pre-match offers from excellent programs. For more competitive residencies, your board scores will tell the story.

[ERNEST714]

Let me just say that your board scores are important only in that is what gets you an invitation to an interview. The interview is the deciding factor in whether you will get a residency spot or not. Competition is keen but let me say that a US degree or US clinicals does not assure you a spot in residency. The bottom line is how well prepared you are to continue your post graduate education. And let me remind you, all approved programs are just that. APPROVED by the various specialty boards. One may have better name recognition but the training is essentially the same no matter where you go.

[singer]

For FP or IM it will be difficult for you to decide between numerous pre-match offers from excellent programs. For more competitive residencies, your board scores will tell the story.

As you know I am a parent of a ROSS student and I was just curious whether the pre-matches come at hospitals where the student has done either core or elective rotations? Is there other ways to get a pre-match and if so how does a student apply for a pre match? Is there a list of pre-match rotations?

Thanks

[FRNC]

As you know I am a parent of a ROSS student and I was just curious whether the pre-matches come at hospitals where the student has done either core or elective rotations? Is there other ways to get a pre-match and if so how does a student apply for a pre match? Is there a list of pre-match rotations?

Thanks

In my kid's case pre-match offers came either during or after the interviews. The offers were not solicited. I find it ironic that students from foreign med schools are offered pre-matches (at ivy league affiliates) but it's against the rules for US med school students to be offered or accept pre-match contracts. This is one advantage of attending a foreign school.

My kid did not apply to any programs where cores/electives were completed and thus did not receive pre-match offers from them.

Not aware of any pre-match availability list.

[alpathmd]

When I had my physicals, my physician didn't really give a response when I told her what I was getting my physical for. She was older and she didn't really know much about Caribb schools. It seems that the older Dr's either were not in school when Caribb schools showed up, or they (Caribb schools).........

My GP (Canadian, older doc) gave me a similar reaction when I had my physical done just prior to attending Ross. I showed up last year for an appointment and told her I was going into Path. She opened her eyes (stunned!) and after a few moments had a conversation about my experience and my option for choosing path. Who would have known her husband was a pathologist!

[diphylobrothum]

When I had my physical, my physician said "hey, thats where I went!" Small world isn't it


b12

[booksale]

When I had my physical, my physician said "hey, thats where I went!" Small world isn't it


b12


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anyway, don't US med students get first pick? and we get sloppy seconds?

[Jezzielin]

If Ross is accredited I do not see why there would be sloppy seconds. I thought is your boards were good/great you had your shot just as good as the US schools. I bet Ross students would have to do a little better then US, but does anyone know what kind of margin?

[tno77]

If Ross is accredited I do not see why there would be sloppy seconds. I thought is your boards were good/great you had your shot just as good as the US schools. I bet Ross students would have to do a little better then US, but does anyone know what kind of margin?

There is no magic number. Just do as well as you possibly can and see what happens

If you do your part you will get your fair share of residencies....good and bad.

[booksale]

for ross, it seems you will get "a" residency, not necessarily a good one.

[zedpol]

for ross, it seems you will get "a" residency, not necessarily a good one.


I would changet hat to, "it seemd you will get 'a' residency, not necissarily a prestigious one.".

Don't be fooled, board scores aren't near as important as everyone on the island says. Yes they are important but your grades and LOR are more important. No one will be interested in you if you have massive board scores and crappy grades with poor LOR.

Z

[Shah_Patel_PT]

I was having a physical today and yet ran into another person saying beware of the carribean, not because of any stigma, but residency. Why is everyone saying this is so impossible or difficult! If my boards are as good as US schools or better, should I have a problem?

I want to respond to these comments people give me!

When I had my physical..doc was just happy..that i am starting med school..and he wished me good luck...nobody really cares where you finished your degree...as long as you can get into a good residency program.

As zedpol mentioned....it might be difficult to get into a prestigious residency as a carib grad....but then again..those type of residencies hardly take any FMG/IMGs regardless whether you are from caribbean or not...

[booksale]

most people seem to agree the order of importance is something like:

1. clinical grades, step 1 & LOR's.
2. step 2
3. stuff
4. stuff
5. basic sciences grades.

[McGillGrad]

for ross, it seems you will get "a" residency, not necessarily a good one.

What is your basis for this assumption?