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tommyk
05-16-2006, 07:37 PM
Hy 2219 Respiratory Physiology and Bacteriology, Classic Step 1
You next see a 70-year-old woman who presents to her physician because of 50 hours of persistent fevers, shaking chills, and a productive cough. She is a former smoker who quit 20 years ago who smoked 3 packs a day. (She owned a ton of Philip Morris, now Altria stock). She is in otherwise good health and a multimillionaire in stock, except for a history of a transient ischemic attack 2 yeas ago. On physical examination, there are coarse rhonchi at the left posterior lung base with increased fremitus and hyperresonance to percussion. A chest x-ray film reveals a lobar consolidation in the left lower posterior lung segment. Which of the following would be most likely to appear on a sputum Gram's stain? (What is the bug?)
1-Gram positive cocci in clusters
2-Gram positive cocci in chains
3-Gram positive rods in clusters
4-Gram positive rods
5-Gram neg rods





























































a) Most common is…well, most common. Ans is … #2! The most likely organism in an otherwise healthy patient residing at home ("community-acquired pneumonia") is Streptococcus pneumoniae, otherwise known as the "pneumococcus." This organism appears as a gram-positive, lancet-shaped diploccus in short chains on a Gram's stain of sputum. It is usually present in very large numbers in clinical cases of pneumococcal pneumonia. S. pneumoniae accounts for about two thirds of community acquired pneumonias and occurs most frequently in the very young and the elderly. More than 80 distinct serotypes exist, which is why the pneumococcal vaccine (directed against 23 different polysaccharide antigens), although very useful, does not protect perfectly against pneumonia caused by S. pneumoniae. Gram-negative cocci in chains is consistent with gonococcus, which rarely causes a bacterial pneumonia—and almost always in people who have gonorrhea of the genital organ systems. The patient has no underlying diseases to suggest that there might be a predisposition to a gram-negative pneumonia, such as due to Pseudomonas or Escherichia coli. E. coli pneumonia is seen in patients with underlying E. coli infection elsewhere, notably in the urinary tract. Pseudomonas pneumonia is common in patients with underlying cystic fibrosis, neutropenia, AIDS, bronchiectasis, or other organ system disease serious enough to require therapy in an intensive care unit. Gram-positive cocci in clusters suggest Staphylococcus aureus. Although S. aureus can occur (2% of the time) in community-acquired pneumonias and may affect the elderly, it is more commonly seen as a nosocomial infection, particularly in patients who have tracheostomy, endotracheal intubation, immunosuppression, or recent surgery. Other particularly vulnerable patients include those with underlying cystic fibrosis, granulomatous lung disease, IV drug abuse with staphylococcal endocarditis, or bacterial superinfection following viral pneumonia.

md90
05-17-2006, 12:27 AM
tommyk, I really love your questions! I do good on the USMLE Practice exam, qbank, and NBME... but your questions are just easier for me to understand and to comprehend on what you are asking... I think that I should ask the ECFMG and USMLE committees to give an exam solely on your questions... I would then know that I could and would pass comfortably!!!

MonteCH
05-17-2006, 08:30 AM
shouldn't lobar consolidation give dullness (not hyperresonance) on percussion?

md90
05-17-2006, 10:14 AM
shouldn't lobar consolidation give dullness (not hyperresonance) on percussion?

from what I understand... consolidation which is liquid should be dullness to percussion; Dullness replaces the "normal" resonance when there is fluid or solid tissue between the lung and chest wall; examples include: lobar pneumonia, hemothorax; hyperresonance is more with hyperinflated lung like in asthma or COPD; or air in the pleural space (e.g. pneumothorax);

rrrrr
05-17-2006, 10:30 PM
"consolidation which is liquid"????this is wrong.....this is not collection on plural cavity this a consolidation which give you dullnes.....

md90
05-18-2006, 11:38 AM
speaking of the sounds that you would hear... please correct me but this is what I remember...

Dullness will heard over the normal resonance if there is a buffer of fluid or solid tissue between the lungs and chest wall like in pleural effusion, lobar pneumonia, or hemothorax;

Hyperresonance is heard over areas of hyperinflated lungs like in asthma and COPD, or in the pleural space like in a pneumothorax.

The question is related to lobar pneumonia (strept pneumoniae); is my critical thinking right or wrong? thank you...

tommyk
05-20-2006, 04:16 AM
As you know, I am interning and teaching Step 1 at the same time.. This was an actual patient of mine but the patient is in real life a male, 70y old Italian gentlemen. He had all his family around him. And we had him on Zithromax (for the coverage I thought), then switched him to Levaquin. This morn, we did a bronchoscopy and sputum culture. Still, the consolidation continues, and he is in a week taking a trip to Italy for a wedding. Again, this cases are both board related and my own patient contact experience. I really try to make sure they will help you pass Step 1. OK? You all have great points. I am so proud of everyone in our family.

Love you,

Tommyk