Lots of people for clinicals.

[shutterbugmd]

Hey any stories about people waiting 3 months for rotations??? too many students ?? any info is appreciated

[booksale]

i wouldn't be surprised......

ross is now trying to weed out as many people as possible by 5th semester.

[diphylobrothum]

took the test early march, got my score late march and the jersey office told me that they may have something for me by early may - So now that i have absolutely no financial aid money left from the september semester - I have a job and I am again waiting for Ross to get there _ _ _ _ together.


b12

[alpathmd]

took the test early march, got my score late march and the jersey office told me that they may have something for me by early may - b12

Nothing new.

I had a similar wait back in '03. Instead of starting with a core (FP), I asked to do "non-medicine rotations".....i.e those that do not require IM first (neurology, pathology, radiology). So i did 8-9 weeks of these and then started FP, so that I didn't have to waste time.

[McGillGrad]

Nothing new.

I had a similar wait back in '03. Instead of starting with a core (FP), I asked to do "non-medicine rotations".....i.e those that do not require IM first (neurology, pathology, radiology). So i did 8-9 weeks of these and then started FP, so that I didn't have to waste time.

Great advice.

I like people who present solutions, not just complain about the problems.

[Floater]

There was recently a good thread about how to do this, so what about setting up one's own rotations?

Do the schools have to be affiliated with Ross?
If they are not, can Ross enter into some sort of "temporary affiliation" agreement?

Do the individual States have licensing rules about doing core rotations only with Ross-affiliated sites?
If so, can this be worked around by, again, some sort of "temporary afiliation?"

[teratos]

I know for a fact that one of the Ross core medicine sites has 4 open spots this rotation. G

[booksale]

does this mean ross students will have to schedule their own stuff to graduate on time? If i begin rotations in september 2006, will i match on time in 2008? US med students usually start in june or july. that means i'll be 2-3 months behind.

[Cuando2]

I have personally found that speaking with certain advisors, there seems to be "no spots right now." However, if you hang up and call again, and speak to an alternate advisor, spots seem to be open everywhere. I have also seen rotation lists at hospitals which do not meet maximum quotas, but friends who call Ross to schedule for those same spots are told they are full.

[alpathmd]

does this mean ross students will have to schedule their own stuff to graduate on time?

I did not schedule anything "myself" but rather "bugged" my advisor until i got a response, obviously the response I wanted. We cannot schedule anything ourselves but rather MUST go through our advisor one way or another.

If i begin rotations in september 2006, will i match on time in 2008? US med students usually start in june or july. that means i'll be 2-3 months behind.

yes you will, provided you dont' take any breaks (or minimal rather), and have no unforseeen events occur during your rotations. You must keep track of your weeks and continually work with your advisor to schedule rotations.l

[alpathmd]

I have personally found that speaking with certain advisors, there seems to be "no spots right now." However, if you hang up and call again, and speak to an alternate advisor, spots seem to be open everywhere.

yes, this has happened to me as well. i managed to show up unexpected at the NJ office and see my advisor. the lady at the front desk asked if i had an apptment and i said no, because i coudlnt' get a hold of anyone on the phone.

so, now you have to make an apptment to see your advisor (i guess, because of students like me!):cool:

[booksale]

I have personally found that speaking with certain advisors, there seems to be "no spots right now." However, if you hang up and call again, and speak to an alternate advisor, spots seem to be open everywhere. I have also seen rotation lists at hospitals which do not meet maximum quotas, but friends who call Ross to schedule for those same spots are told they are full.

nice tip

some people are %$#$@ huh? seems like they're too lazy to search their open spots.

[LastDance]

So to add to the original question... what happens if you want to practice in a state that requires all ACGME approved rotations... and Ross places you in one that is NOT ACGME approved...what can you do then? can you say "no i cant do this rotation because it is not ACGME approved" or do you just wait? i read somewhere on this forum that if you wait too long then your loan payment kicks in... SOOO in other words, is it possible to simply just get screwed by Ross. Also, if one is completely flexible, in regards to which state they do their clinicals, how beneficial would that be in trying to do all ACGME clinicals? thanks

[Cuando2]

dont be so surprised that students actually DO get screwed by Ross...its very common for this to happen.

if you are placed into a non-acgme slot, dont tell the advisor the truth and blurt out, "OH MY GOD, THATS NOT ACGME, IS IT?" Just politely tell them you prefer another spot...have a bunch of affiliated hospitals listed on a sheet of paper before you and suggest another one. They apparently cannot look up slots by which core you wanna do, they look them up by hospital. Thats what i've gathered in my dealings with the C Dept of ROSS. good luck

[booksale]

tricksy tricksy........

ross can't swallow what they chewed.

[LastDance]

Thats soo unfair that Ross treats their students this way.. i mean this is such a helpess situation for Ross 3'rd and 4th year students to be in. It seems that they are simply at Rosses whim. I can understand if Ross can't give students the EXACT rotation that a student wishes... but atleast give them an ACGME rotation if the students asks for it... because that will royally screw the student later... after residency when it comes time for licensure....man this has got me worried already, and i havent even started med school yet!?!?! and "booksale" is right.. it seems Ross can't swallow what they chewed.

[alpathmd]

.man this has got me worried already, and i havent even started med school yet!?!?! and "booksale" is right..

I've gotten a similar worry by PM from another poster.

The students who have not actually "landed" on the island yet, are worried for nothing. From my opinion, what you must worry about now is the ISLAND. You have to make sure you get through it without any slips and slides.

You must take the medical school curriculum/4 yrs, as 2 phases.

1. the island
2. clinicals.

Once you clear #1, you can begin to worry about 2. (don't pass go, unless you pay $200);)