Is Really Leaving SGU?

[Peter8791]

Rumor is Dr. H told his Biochem class today that he's been asked to step down as course director and chairman of the Biochem dept.

I thought he was supposed to be one of the best profs at St. Georges.

[rokshana]

Rumor is H******d told his Biochem class today that he's been asked to step down as course director and chairman of the Biochem dept.

I thought he was supposed to be one of the best profs at St. Georges.

Well....that's a relative thing really...He is probably the most prestigous prof on the full time faculty. As for best...my vote would be for Drs. K***le and N***on in the phys dept(the the latter has since left). And there are a number of VPs in Vinnies that are great.

[basupran]

Does anyone know what hap?

[jaywalk81]

can we drop this conversation.
some dumb idiots with no class and professionalism openly asked Dr.H about that rumor in front of 350 students...obviously it made Dr.H feel awkard and Dr.H with class handled the Q professionaly.
if Dr.H is leaving, it will be a loss to the SGU community.
and that guy who asked the rumor in class needs to be slapped back into sense and in my opinion needs some serious conseling before he can continue in his medical education

[AKdoc]

It'd be a shame if he left. I think he brings a sense of credibility to the school with all his accolades. I know some of his biochem lectures might have been a bit research intensive (to his own research too at times), but he is a good prof, easy to talk to, and I never understood how the heck he'd run at noon every day in the field in front of SD2 when it was so dang hot. Those hash runs were fun as well with him.

[jaywalk81]

it is definitely a loss to SGU. most if not all biochem ppl back in the states have heard of Dr.H.
but if he does leave, he will be going to john hopkins. all the best to him!

[desai29]

Sorry to hear that!

[Dr.Masr]

Dr. H was a good professor in my opinion. I might not have thought so during my first term, but now that I look back he really did toughen us up. He might have gone overboard with the rat heart mitochondria but what we learned in his class is definitely being applied to classes now in 4th term (from what material i can remember ;)) Heck, im sure everyones heard of how georgetown's students took our exams and practically failed and sgu kids took georgetowns and ate it up. Its too bad some slacker, lazy, party kids have to trash him in evaluations at the end of every term just to be "cool" and destroy his credibility at SGU.

[Saora1]

I must have missed those 4th term classes where Biochem is coming back.

Are we in the same class? Hmmn, maybe I'm in "remedial Pathology". :( What I find to be coming back the most is Immuno and obviously Anat and Histo, but even Histo isn't coming back as much as I'd have thought.

[SideshowBob]

it is definitely a loss to SGU. most if not all biochem ppl back in the states have heard of Dr.H.
but if he does leave, he will be going to john hopkins. all the best to him!

i felt a personal attachment to dr. h especially since both of our hairs stand perpendicular to our heads (see avatar).


on a more minor note, its Johns Hopkins. the alumni association delivers a highvoltage shock to us if we dont correct every utterance of the incorrect name. that's how my hair ended up like that. :D

[tralfaz]

I must have missed those 4th term classes where Biochem is coming back.

Are we in the same class? Hmmn, maybe I'm in "remedial Pathology". :( What I find to be coming back the most is Immuno and obviously Anat and Histo, but even Histo isn't coming back as much as I'd have thought.


I agree with you. Lot's of immuno and some anatomy in pd now. Can't think of much if any biochem thus far.

[onlyinthemorning]

There are doings afoot, that's for sure.

[NaughtyRabbit]

can we drop this conversation.
some dumb idiots with no class and professionalism openly asked Dr.H about that rumor in front of 350 students...obviously it made Dr.H feel awkard and Dr.H with class handled the Q professionaly.
if Dr.H is leaving, it will be a loss to the SGU community.
and that guy who asked the rumor in class needs to be slapped back into sense and in my opinion needs some serious conseling before he can continue in his medical education
Ok.... so what was Dr. H's response other than he was professional about it.

[stephew]

a couple of things. the first is NO NAMES here please.
THe second is that the loss of a good teacher is always a shame. But dont fool yourselves; there is no gain or loss of prestige here. Dr V who teachings path is one of the most prestigous pathologist out there. We had a Nobel winner in genetics before. It wont get you a residency nor will it move sgu's rep up or down. Only your success does that. GOod teachers and good students are what count.

[jaywalk81]

DrH basically confirmed it. he will be on a sabbatical next term and will no longer be the chair of the biochem dept.

but i will not add to anymore because i been hearing different stories of how everything got started. but one thing for sure is dr.h wont be here next term because of his sabbatical

[Gforce007]

So I guess Aug 2006 first termers are gonna be guinea pigs for a new prof. I better start reading my Lippincott now. Any ideas if they get a new prof or have prof there teach biochem ebevn though its not his expertise :(

[rokshana]

DrH basically confirmed it. he will be on a sabbatical next term and will no longer be the chair of the biochem dept.

but i will not add to anymore because i been hearing different stories of how everything got started. but one thing for sure is dr.h wont be here next term because of his sabbatical

sabbatical is just that though- Dr. Q. left for a term in micro- but i believe he is back.
As for the relevance of biochem - it was, i thought quite important for step I - however the things emphasized in the class were not the things emphasized on the exam -while i'm sure the level of biochem was appropriate for a graduate class, it needs to be made more clinically relavant- there were lots of question on those glycogen storage diseases and the related enzymes(never remember those!!) and I thought that they werejust mentioned as an aside in class.
(and i agree with you saora- don't really remember biochem being all that helpful for path- must have been in that remedial path class too!!).

[Saora1]

sabbatical is just that though- Dr. Q. left for a term in micro- but i believe he is back.

Back and still Course Director.

As for the relevance of biochem - it was, i thought quite important for step I

Great, I'm screwed. Admittedly, I just scraped through Biochem with 74%.

however the things emphasized in the class were not the things emphasized on the exam -while i'm sure the level of biochem was appropriate for a graduate class, it needs to be made more clinically relavant

That was my biggest problem with the class and actually with most classes taught by PhDs rather than MDs. That's not to say that MDs are better lecturers/instructors because some can be quite horrible, but they present more relevant info/scenarios in my limited experience thus far.

When I'm studying medicine on my way to becoming a doctor, I want to learn clinical things not about insect flight muscle or rat hearts.


(and i agree with you saora- don't really remember biochem being all that helpful for path- must have been in that remedial path class too!!).
Awesome, you made it so there's a chance for me too. *grin*

[jaywalk81]

So I guess Aug 2006 first termers are gonna be guinea pigs for a new prof. I better start reading my Lippincott now. Any ideas if they get a new prof or have prof there teach biochem ebevn though its not his expertise :(

no. the biochem has a numerous of biochem prof and all are very very good and very knowledgeble in the field. but dr.h was well known back in the states as well. also dr.c of biochem is very well known too.

[JLai]

I don't know about the rest of you...but my personal experience with this "clown" was ridiculous. I walked into his office asking for help on how to bring my C to a B only to be ridiculed by him saying "well...technically its possible, but more than likely you won't get a B." So I was like...ok...fine. Then went to shake his hand while saying "well, thank you for your time anyways". So what does he do? He gives me a smirk and chuckles at me. What an idiot. He might be prestigious...but screw that. Physio department was 10x better. The other departments need to follow in their lead. And for the record, Dr. K was such a better teacher.

**edited for Steph's uncanny ability to moderate every thread and post**

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[vtrain]

a couple of things. the first is NO NAMES here please.
THe second is that the loss of a good teacher is always a shame. But dont fool yourselves; there is no gain or loss of prestige here. Dr V who teachings path is one of the most prestigous pathologist out there. We had a Nobel winner in genetics before. It wont get you a residency nor will it move sgu's rep up or down. Only your success does that. GOod teachers and good students are what count.
Well said. Whether a nobel laureate teaches you the krebs cycle, or someone else, it's up to YOU to learn the cycle and understand it. The prestige factor doesn't make you learn the cycle any better. It's hard to find a really good teacher who can explain something well and you dont need to be a laureate to do that. It's a shame he's moving on b/c he was a riot during the hashes - he will be missed.

[islandhopper]

can we drop this conversation.
some dumb idiots with no class and professionalism openly asked Dr.H about that rumor in front of 350 students...obviously it made Dr.H feel awkard and Dr.H with class handled the Q professionaly.
if Dr.H is leaving, it will be a loss to the SGU community.
and that guy who asked the rumor in class needs to be slapped back into sense and in my opinion needs some serious conseling before he can continue in his medical education

Totally agreed.

[islandhopper]

I don't know about the rest of you...but my personal experience with this a**clown was ridiculous. I walked into his office asking for help on how to bring my C to a B only to be ridiculed by him saying "well...technically its possible, but more than likely you won't get a B." So I was like...ok...fine. Then went to shake his hand while saying "well, thank you for your time anyways". So what does he do? He gives me a smirk and chuckles at me. What an idiot. He might be prestigious...but screw that. Physics department was 10x better. The other departments need to follow in their lead. And for the record, Dr. K was such a better teacher.

I have to agree with this. I have a few incidences that I couldn't care less to discuss about, not Dr H but other profs in the department. It seems to me Biochem department is the worst in Term 1 together with the Clinical Skills.

[jaywalk81]

CS wins the gold for me in the worst dept ever..and its ironic that they are the one teaching the whole "professionalism" thing

[Saora1]

CS wins the gold for me in the worst dept ever..and its ironic that they are the one teaching the whole "professionalism" thing
Definitely agreed.

I've said as much before. And they REALLY need to learn how to use Angel to post meeting times instead of putting it up on a bulletin board the day before.

Is it that hard really? They already typed it up to print and post...

[Sam2004]

Not everyone will have the same opinion of a professor. I think I got to see both sides of Dr. H. I definitely had good personal encounters with him...But there are some profs that give you the impression that they aren't out to screw you and that they generally want the class to succeed. They will not write testable material in microscopic print and they will emphasize what they want you to know because they want you to know it. I never got this vibe from Dr. H. I am getting it from Dr. Q in Micro and got it tons from Dr. W. in biochem as well. Some profs understand that if they say, "This is important. Know it", everyone WILL. And we will know it for the midterm, the final and the USMLE. That should be the point of being an expert in the field, in my opinion. Otherwise, we can all read notes and textbooks and learn "something". Maybe just not the right thing.

Also -- just a side note. On my BSCE I , I got better on all the "internal" questions versus the "external" questions -- EXCEPT for Biochem. It was the only section in which I did better on outside questions. I'm not trying to prove anything -- it's just an observation.

[RussianJoo]

Physics department was 10x better. The other departments need to follow in their lead.

Physics?? Since when do we take physics in medical school???

[Saora1]

Make a leap and assume he was talking about Physio.

[JLai]

Physics?? Since when do we take physics in medical school???

Meant Physio...sorry.

[JLai]

CS wins the gold for me in the worst dept ever..and its ironic that they are the one teaching the whole "professionalism" thing
Sooo true. After an incident I rather not discuss...I was given a formal apology by that department. :cool: I've heard of others complaining/trying to get retribution, but none have met with the same success. I keep that e-mail as a trophy on my wall.

[Silenthunder]

CS wins the gold for me in the worst dept ever..and its ironic that they are the one teaching the whole "professionalism" thing

well - when they get around to acs (advanced cs) ,they get around to using angel to post stuff. I don't know why they can't do it for the other terms.....

if you think cs is bad, just wait 'til you take ACS!! the written exams in that almost seem like a random sampling of the lectures (one term it may be heavy cardio/resp, andother term it could be heavy GI, or neuro - it doesn't follow the distribution of lectures)

and your practical exam grade is completely dependant on who you get as an examiner - and what question stem you get (these vary in difficulty - I got a 'minor' that someone else got as a major)

the only good thing about ACS is that half the mark is yet to be determined in vinnies.

cheers all,

Silenthunder

[rokshana]

the only good thing about ACS is that half the mark is yet to be determined in vinnies.



not really, whatever you come out of gnd is generally what you end up with in vinnies too.

[rokshana]

oh, on the original topic of this thread - have it from a VERY VERY reliable source that Dr. H. was shall we say "let go" by the school.

[jaywalk81]

and dr.h said he was going to john hopkins, so good for him

[Dr.Masr]

i think his expertise will be better served there anyway

[RussianJoo]

and dr.h said he was going to john hopkins, so good for him



I highly doubt he is going to Johns Hopkins. If anything he will retire.

[seagoddess]

i dont really think the school is missing much by Dr H leaving but that's just my opinion. i couldn't care less about his rat livers or whatever. the class was taught at a PhD level and not so much clinical relevance. i also had an unpleasant personal encounter with him but whatever...

[stephew]

enough public speculating on the professional life of a person who has achieved more than most of the users so far.