This information was given to us 2 semesters ago and everyone on this board said it couldn't be true etc and had all sorts of things to say about why students would be upset such as they are failing out and that is why they are complaining and those reasons you posted are why I left AUC and switched to SMU. No school is perfect but blatantly lying is a whole new ball game.
I do agree that many people leave because they fail but there are others who just got fed up with all the lies etc.
Just a note two semesters ago we were told the first time passing rate was closer to 65% and overall pass rate was about 86%. Make what you want out of it.

Good luck to you

Shouldn't we stop screaming and yelling and try to get in that 65% or 85%??
That would make more sense...

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This is such a typical response from you guys. Instead of admiting there is a problem with the school you just call everybody crybabies.

Go ask the statitician for the data. You'll see that with the new standard deviation of 1.5 rule that 50% of the previous classes all would have failed their shelves. And the shelves actually matter now. They have made the shelves harder to pass, and you are required to have a passing average. If you fail them, you have to retake 5th semester (+$10,000 in AUC's pocket).

Sure, the logic that if you should know the material to be a good doctor, etc, is true, HOWEVER, if the professors aren't teaching what is on the shelf, then it fails.

I don't expect stuff to be hand-fed to me, but I do expect to be given relevant material. Also, regarding Kaplan, the data showed the Kaplan course didn't help anything. And for any recent 5th semesters, your scores, on average, were all pretty poor. There is a decreasing trend in your data, meaning you guys must be getting more stupid.

so what do you expect from a school filled with a bunch of people who couldnt cut it for a US school?

i have always been surpised with people's reactions when they find out the pass rate---you realize the school is filled with idiots---

the school takes a good number of idiots and then you expect these idiots all of a sudden to become half-way inteligent---look, worrying about what the others did will just make you fail---who cares if only 65% of the school pass step 1---just make sure you are part of that 65%---

i am surpised that 65% of the people in this school pass---looking around half the time i am amazed some of these people can dress themselves nevertheless know where the heart is located or tell the difference from their head and their rear end.

so bust your *** and worry about yourself and let the ones who cannot cut it sink to the bottom of the sea---it isnt your problem---


skipper

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If you fail at AUC, SGU, or Ross why not transfer to SMU, if you fail at SMU, why not try another SMU.

be nice to newbies. until YOU take the exam YOU have NO, NONE, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, the big O, a giant GOOSE EGG of an idea of what is or isn't on that exam. you can listen to people whom have taken it or get caught up in the rumor mill.

your posts remind me so much of minee durind 3rd semester, the one where i contacted ross for a transfer app....all the stats i saw and were told were 65-80% first time depending on semester and ~90% overall..you can even look at my posts where i put up the data directly from the school's memos.

block exams, changing fail credits, schedule changes, and so on...the school's admin will test things they think will improve their numbers bottom line either suck it up and grow some fuzz on the gonads, organize to fight the changes (we beat block exams for ya all...you're welcome), or change venues to a place you think will be a better fit.

trouble is this will keep coming to haunt you again and again.... wouldn't it be nice if we could change attendings because they make things hard, test on crap you will never see on step 2, or are just 'lovely' human beings? better start learning to adapt and survive on 5 hours of sleep or step 1 won't matter quite as much....

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My first time USMLE Step I pass rate is 100%...should anyone else's matter to me?

Sure, I understand that a few profs are woefully lacking USMLE appropriate material...no one is disputing that. Then again, a majority of the profs ARE teaching board-relavant concepts.

Bottom line -- I wasn't spoon-fed, nor did I expect to be. AUC has given me my chance (where US schools didn't) to attain my MD, and for that, I am thankful.

Every school has its own set of problems. The successful people, in my opinion, tend to be those that can adapt to a variety of circumstances and excel in spite of them.

Aloha,

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dont you love how ones that never even took the usmle bc it didnt exist when they were licensed say "this is step material"

btw im no auc cheerleader but i dont remember many blatant lies.....except maybe the cafteria food was good

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I suggest anyone who is failing or upset with AUC transfer to St. Mathews. It turns out that they are the top medical school in the world and no one fails. You can be a failing student at AUC and magically top of your class at SMU.

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That is irrelevant. The NBME gives out huge lists to schools of material that needs to be covered, which is all relevant material for the shelf exams & step 1.

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Mr Islandwife and I are right there with Yoda - we are happy to be here and will do whatever it takes to achieve the goals we set. How bad do you really want it? That is the question to ask. Once you have passed your exams and are practicing, this will all be irrelevant. All we care about is a secured chair for Step 1.
BUT - there were some things misstated at best. When this class left for break, we were operating under the information that was given to us at orientation - 'if you pass your class, the shelf doesn't matter'. So a lot of people who did well went into break thinking they could take a break. Now they have to cram for the shelf to be taken tomorrow. What kinda stuff is that?!
I understand - and agree - with the raising of the standards for admission and retention. It only makes our degrees more valuable. Luckily Mr. Islandwife studied hard for the shelf anyway through break. But I have some good friends who didn't for very good reasons and I am just hoping this doesn't bite them in the rear because they did very well in class and worked hard in order to have a real break over Christmas.

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