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The validity of the data is based upon a statistically significant sample size, not whether there is variabliity in the GPA or MCAT score being measured. And the number of students taking these exams is certainly a statistically significant sample size.

If you look at USIMGs - the majority of Carib students - you find from the ECFMG that the Step 1 pass rates for these students hover around 50% (around 35% for those trying a second time) vs the 90%+ for U.S. students. This same group of people are those who attend schools where the MCAT is either not required, and where admission standards - in terms of MCATS and GPAs - are lower. This is why asking what one's chances of being admitted is the wrong question. With lower admission standards, the possibility of being accepted somewhere is fairly high. The real problem is not being accepted, but beating the statistics, and getting through all the Step exams and on to licensure.

It always seems to anger people when the statistics say that Step 1 scores are corelated with MCAT scores, but the fact is that for years, this has been the case. The studies lookng at this seem to come out every year.

Does the POSSIBILTY exist that these correlations don't apply to a specific student? Sure. It's just that the PROBABILTY is not high.

This thread sucks. Look, if we are going to a caribbean med school it means we making babiesed up somewhere along the line. For myself it was the MCAT. If anyone is attending a Caribbean school with above a 3.5 and 25 MCAT they are idiots. Those stats are more than good enough to gain DO acceptance. And if anyone decided a carib MD is better than a DO degree, well they are smoking crack. Everyone attending AUC is "flawed" in some sort of way be it low GPA, low MCAT, weak undergrad institution, weak extra curiculars, etc. We are all extremely fortune that AUC has taken a flyer on us. AUC is a second chance. A second chance to prove to the US schools that they were wrong about about. I highly doubt anyone at the school fits into normal statistical categories. We attend AUC to defy statistics.

lately there have been more people going to AUC with higher stats. . . but usually it is Canadians, older students, etc. I had/have the stats to get in med schools in the U.S., but because I am getting older and I didn't fulfill my med school prereq's until late, AUC looked attractive. What I mean is I really didn't want to wait for yet another year or two to go. . . but anyway. You guys are right for the most part. Usually the ones that went to AUC had some trouble along the way somewhere. The main exception of course is students from Canada and stuff.

Yes, that's true. There are some people with rather high stats, though. It will vary based on the number of applicants to US schools. G

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i had a 3.67 and 25---i didnt want an DO---there numerous reasons for it--no point in bringing them all up

so i personally dont think i am an idiot or smoking crack--but that is my opinion

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Well then MartyJannety, by your definition, I am an idiot. I have also chosen, for personal reasons, an MD rather than a DO.

Not everyone that goes to a carib med school is an idiot. Sure, there are alot of people who shouldn't be there in the first place, but in my experience, I know many people who would have done as well as, if not better than, many US students (and have demonstrated so based on their USMLE scores).

Perhaps when you get to medical school, you'll look around and see what I mean.

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I am honestly shocked to see that even just a few people decided to attend AUC over a US DO school. Perhaps my choice of words were a little strong, but I just don't see the logic in that decision. I can see why someone who is a bit older or from Canada would attend a Caribbean school even with good stats. Once again I haven't even started my first semester yet, but I can't imagine that more than a fraction of the students attending AUC fit into the category of attending AUC because they didn't want a DO. The point of my post wasn't really to argue the merits of DO vs carib MD or anything. I was trying to show that a conventional look at statistics should be thrown out the window. The primary reason people attend carib schools is because they couldn't get into a US MD or DO school. If they couldn't get in then that means their stats were subpar. If the majority of students stats are subpar according to US standards, then carib students shouldn't be evaluated based on US stats. Like I said in my previous post, AUC gives us a second chance. At least I feel that way and I'm sure most of you do as well. We are trying to beat the statistics that say we weren't good enough for US med school. I hope what I'm saying makes sense

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