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    Charter

    Here's something to think about:
    AUC has been operating in a country outside of it's charter for 6-7 years now. This could mean bad news for Dr. G.D. and Faith. (Both of whom have been a great source of info for sometime). I checked AUC's website and it is chartered in Montserrat, not SXM. Checked the WHO website and it has no school listed as chartered on SXM, but strangely, there is a listing for Montserrat, an island mostly uninhabited since the volcano erupted.
    Also, no foreign medical school is accreditted by the USDOE. A seperate committee accredits only for loan purposes and does not accredit the school, but the country in which the school is chartered. This is based on a comparison of that country's medical education system as compared to U.S. standards.
    I felt compelled to share this information so this forum, and the authors so concerned about these issues, can finally be fed.

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    charter

    I thought this issue had already been covered but I may be wrong. I was under the impression that AUC was chartered in Montserrat and St Maarten. Does anyone else have any input on this?
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    the charter issue

    Sorry I didn't make this clear. My previous message was posted on the St. Chris forum to help those who still believe that the charter issue will prevent St. Chris grads from getting licensed.
    And though you may be under the impression AUC, (a great school by the way), is chartered in both countries, the web sites are pretty clear.

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    How does charter issue affect past grads and current students?

    Was the purpose of the original post to inform St. Chris grads not to worry - how are AUC student and grads affected by this.

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    OK

    Here's something to think about:
    AUC has been operating in a country outside of it's charter for 6-7 years now. This could mean bad news for Dr. G.D. and Faith. (Both of whom have been a great source of info for sometime). I checked AUC's website and it is chartered in Montserrat, not SXM. Checked the WHO website and it has no school listed as chartered on SXM, but strangely, there is a listing for Montserrat, an island mostly uninhabited since the volcano erupted.
    Also, no foreign medical school is accredited by the USDOE. A separate committee accredits only for loan purposes and does not accredit the school, but the country in which the school is chartered. This is based on a comparison of that country's medical education system as compared to U.S. standards.
    I felt compelled to share this information so this forum, and the authors so concerned about these issues, can finally be fed.
    Ok so here it goes again. If you look at all the documents you would have found that in the Updates through 30 June 2003 pdf file they list AUC as being permanently moved to St Maarten from Montserrat. See:
    http://www.who.int/hrh/documents/HRH...en/index1.html[url]

    You can look under Montserrat or Netherlands Antilles.

    As far as the USDOE accrediting any school for licensing proposes it doesn’t happen even us schools aren't accredited by the USDOE for state licensing.

    Dragging another school in to try and make st Chris look legitimate doesn’t help your case either.

    Rumors, rumors guess it gives us something to talk about.

    On another point, I heard AUC is in negations for a satellite campus in Philipsburg. The classrooms will be just above the pizza hut.
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    the charter issue

    Quote Originally Posted by anubis
    Sorry I didn't make this clear. My previous message was posted on the St. Chris forum to help those who still believe that the charter issue will prevent St. Chris grads from getting licensed.
    And though you may be under the impression AUC, (a great school by the way), is chartered in both countries, the web sites are pretty clear.
    The website is in serious need of updating and is an issue that the current SGA is trying to resolve.

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    OK

    On another point, I heard AUC is in negations for a satellite campus in Philipsburg. The classrooms will be just above the pizza hut.
    From what I hear, there will be new technology adapted from Boolchands.

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    charter issue

    I can't say for sure if the charter issue is a big deal or not. I do think that the charter issue is what prevents foreign schools from setting up in the United States. If the charter issue wasn't a big deal then anyone could charter a school anywhere outside the U.S. and hold classes stateside. Just my opinion
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    the charter issue

    Quote Originally Posted by anubis
    Sorry I didn't make this clear. My previous message was posted on the St. Chris forum to help those who still believe that the charter issue will prevent St. Chris grads from getting licensed.
    And though you may be under the impression AUC, (a great school by the way), is chartered in both countries, the web sites are pretty clear.
    There exists a fundemental difference in that AUC was originally chartered on Montserrat and it physical facilities were located in the country of charter and forced to move to Sint Maarten due to volcanic activity. From the AUC website:

    The American University of the Caribbean (AUC) was founded in January 1978. The University's School of Medicine was chartered by the Government of Montserrat and approved by the Ministry of Education, and is similarly approved and recognized in St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles. The American University of the Caribbean is listed in the World Directory of Medical Schools published by the World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva, Switzerland. Emphasis added by anencephalic.

    http://www.aucmed.edu/01_about.php

    Currently, AUC's campus is located in Sint Maarten, Netherlands Antilles, the country of its charter. It is also the place where AUC students do their basic sciences.

    St. Christopher is chartered in Senegal, and has its physical facilities in Luton, England. St. Chris students do their basic sciences outside the country of charter, which may prove to have bearing in licensure of their graduates.

    I am in no way endorsing AUC or slamming SC, just trying to present fact.

    Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges.

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    I will continue to be a great source of information. The WHO no longer maintains its' list, as far as I know. Now you must search IMED. If you do you will find:

    http://imed.ecfmg.org/details.asp?co...54010&psize=25

    So there is no issue, you are just reading dated information. BTW, I already have an unrestricted license. There was absolutely no problem with the school as far as the state of MD was concerned. G
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