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Old 01-01-2006, 12:52 AM
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New York site visit in 23 days? That's good to know, albeit rather surprising for a school so new and unestablished that it's still covered in shrink-wrap.

I wonder if New York would care that AUA has partnered with a school that starts and shuts twinning programs like they're candy? Wonder if New York would care that several years ago AUA's partner "school" bribed the University of West Indies Dean into certifying about a hundred students as having studied basic sciences in UWI when in fact they had never set foot there up till that time?

Maybe it's time to expose a few of the frauds who are in residency despite doing their basic sciences in a twinning program started in Manipal in 1995, closed in 1998, and was not accredited even one day during that time.

I sense my moment has come to make some use of the wretched years lost in Manipal. I tried it with the ECFMG in Philly and being lazy bureaucrats, they couldn't care less. Maybe the New York Medical Board has a little more interest in preserving the integrity of the process.

I will do what I can in the next 23 days to alert the NY board of all the aforementioned. This is not simply about AUA but a longstanding plan and desire of mine to expose the corruption and lies of Manipal. I have the names and locations of people doing residency who didn't do basic sciences in an accredited school (the short-lived Manipal twinning program of 1995-98) and that is illegal.
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:05 AM
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I wonder if New York would care that AUA has partnered with a school that starts and shuts twinning programs like they're candy? Wonder if New York would care that several years ago AUA's partner "school" bribed the University of West Indies Dean into certifying about a hundred students as having studied basic sciences in UWI when in fact they had never set foot there up till that time?
I don't think they care much about our partner except that they're a top 5 school in India with thousands of practicing grads in the US. We do not have the relationship with KMC that your school allegedly did. We are not owned by them, even partially. Right now, the only real result of the twinning program is that they're using our hospitals.

AUA has an excellent relationship with NY's medical board and I think they are capable of seeing the facts.
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not according to the ad that aua used to run on vmd. its stated "manipals first us campus". not only did they mislead that it was manipal's school, but they also mislead intially that it was a school in the US.

that is the problem with aua. about a half a year ago, they were still recruiting students from california and telling them to send in their deposits first before they answer all the california questions.

how do i know this?.... i have proof with correspondance from their NY office. i posed as a potential CA student.

lastly, AUA really PO'd the cali board with their futile attempt to circumvent their authority with that illegal manipal scam they had going.

they even listed CA hospitals as having clinical affiliations with them. when pat park stepped in, aua continued to insist that she was wrong even though she is the foreign schools liason from CA. at some point aua threatened legal action.

this is not how a school should conduct itself in this day and age and im sure that is not what saba did during their approval process. aua's best bet would be to wait many years before applying because thats how long it will take to get the bad image of AUA out of the CA policymakers' minds. aua really did a disservice to themselves with those wild, deceiving, scamming tactics.
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I don't think they care much about our partner except that they're a top 5 school in India with thousands of practicing grads in the US. We do not have the relationship with KMC that your school allegedly did. We are not owned by them, even partially. Right now, the only real result of the twinning program is that they're using our hospitals.

AUA has an excellent relationship with NY's medical board and I think they are capable of seeing the facts.
top 5 school of india means nothing---india is a 3rd world country

i wouldnt be running around claiming that as an amazing fact---

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As usual, your arrogance and ignorance undermines the truth and accuracy of your statement.

India is 3rd world, true. It also happens to be the country with the largest number of medical schools, period. The united states is second. So IF a school were top 5, it's indeed saying a lot. KMC however is a corruption-ridden cesspool, and it functions entirely by donations and bribery. it can't be mentioned in the same breath as All India Institute, Pondicherry, and several other legit schools which operate on the merit principle, for admissions, promotions and everything else.
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are you trying to compare a 3rd world country to the US---

yea india may have more schools, but half them are in shanty towns built on bribes and fraud

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KMC; How is that possible to be in top 5.

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As usual, your arrogance and ignorance undermines the truth and accuracy of your statement.

India is 3rd world, true. It also happens to be the country with the largest number of medical schools, period. The united states is second. So IF a school were top 5, it's indeed saying a lot. KMC however is a corruption-ridden cesspool, and it functions entirely by donations and bribery. it can't be mentioned in the same breath as All India Institute, Pondicherry, and several other legit schools which operate on the merit principle, for admissions, promotions and everything else.
KMC is a private medical college and their selection process is completely different from goverment medical colleges which have extermely high standard & competition for admission.
I strongly belive that times of india is getting lum sum $$$$$$$$$$$$.
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Your President must be consultant to Arnold Schwarze negger

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Our president was involved in getting Cali approval for Ross and was consultant to Saba during their accreditation process. But AUA will not apply for a few years.

We have our NY site visit in 23 days, and I think that's our big focus now.
B/c He can only be the governor of California. He wants run for the president of the USA but not possible.
He could be better than somany american born republicans what is stopping him.
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B/c He can only be the governor of California. He wants run for the president of the USA but not possible.
He could be better than somany american born republicans what is stopping him.
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that is the problem with aua. about a half a year ago, they were still recruiting students from california and telling them to send in their deposits first before they answer all the california questions.
I was suprised as well, two semesters ago, when all the incoming students thought that they could practice in California. I remember reporting that to our SGA president, who spoke to the administration. Last semester's incoming class seemed pretty clear on where we could and could not practice medicine currently and in the future. So, I don't think that's a problem anymore.

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not according to the ad that aua used to run on vmd. its stated "manipals first us campus". not only did they mislead that it was manipal's school, but they also mislead intially that it was a school in the US.
They actually stopped using the ad - the new one should be visible above. But, I didn't have as much of a problem with it because the text of the ad was somewhat misleading but clicking on it took you to the official page. So, yeah they scammed you into clicking on the ad but I don't think anyone was mislead into thinking that AUA was in the US.

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KMC is a private medical college and their selection process is completely different from goverment medical colleges which have extermely high standard & competition for admission.
Like many private medical college in India, around half of available seats are merit/scholarship based. So what?

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top 5 school of india means nothing---india is a 3rd world country
Wow, that is arrogant. Have you ever worked with an Indian medical graduate? Whether they attend KMC or any other school there, they train under the rigorous British educational system. You could never compare Indian/European/Canadian graduates with Americans, because the former have a far more detailed knowledge of medicine. What American schools are better at is innovation and research.

The only difference between European schools and Indian schools is the culture of corruption. That's something that is endemic in India rather than being specific to KMC or any other school.
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