Thread: Rape case in antigua and barbuda

Hello everyone;

Like many of you I decided to pick aua as my school to persue medicine but its been a while, 6 months that I have withdrew from the program due to a situation that happened while I was on the island...please consider all the cons, all that is stoped to leak out... before going down to antigua..

locals on the island do not enjoy having students around and unfortunately I was considered as one of them, they are highly racist towards students, specially if you have lighter skin color... one night before our 2nd exam I decided to walk outside my apartment to smoke a cigarette and refresh my brain for the challenge coming my way the next day, I did as I wished.

lighting the cigarette walking in the neighborhood, I was strangled in my thoughts about tomorrow and nothing else..while going through my thoughts a car approached me and asked me if he could borrow a smoke, before getting a minute to answer, two huge guys came off the car and took me into the back sit, took me a minute of silence to get out of the shock and get my thoughts together.. All I could think of was to stay quiet so that maybe they would let me go after they take all I had with me..a watch, 50 bucks, a pair of somehow expensive shoes and a pack of smoke.. I just stayed quiet instead of screaming and pissing them off in any way..they took me to a graveyard and and just like I thought they took all my belongings..but unlike what I expected it didn't end right there..they started beating me up, it was blood every where, I dont know if it was my nose, my head bleeding, all I could think of was to stay quiet so that they would think im dead and leave..it got to a point that I didnt need to act dead anymore, I became unconscious..I woke up hours later all bloody, it was still dark when I got up, I dont know how many hours it has been.. there was this pain radiating up from my legs, my shirt and pants were all covered in blood... i ignored the pain and I started walking towards the closest light in sight to save myself from the graveyard... next day I went to school complaining..no one wanted to listen.

10 days later I went back to new york...and specifically for a check up to my doctor..
my family doctor took the time to explain, to even start what he was about to tell me, his sympathy and his talk about raising level of aids and stds in antigua was stabbing right through my heart, finally he got to the words I never wanted to hear... and he said it, I was diagnosed with aids, I couldnt believe this was happening to me, I denied it for the longest time, out of all the people why was it me? or how many more cases are out there that just never get a chance to talk about it? or are too embarrassed to even mention it?

turned out during all those hours I wasn't just beaten up and bloody all over but also raped while unconscious..aids..doesnt have a cure..I am a 23 years old guy that will live with aids for the next 20 years...still hurts like the very first day when I was notified...

I don't know what to believe at this point about the entire story. When I read the OP's first post, I thought that maybe he left out certain details just to get to the point, of his story, but just to be clear to the 2 above posters, this incident occurred either before the first week of school, or during the first week of school when all of the students were coming back for our second semester. The OP did not leave the island until around mini 2 which was no earlier that April 5th (our semester began the first week of february)...meaning that he stuck around for at least 2 months after the incident. I know the incident occurred at the aforementioned time because I not only heard about it, but saw the condition of the OP the week that it happened. So maybe the OP could clear up this discrepancy going on with the timing of events.

OK folks - take time to read my rather long post below. For those of you at AUA who knew "Rob", aka "robert530" or "american104" (same person) please read below.

The core confusion in this story revolves around 2 variables - establishing a credible time line of events, and what one can see may be different than what may have truly transpired, which is explained as point 3 below.

(1) Originally, the confusion was around the OP’s statement “next day I went to school complaining….10 day later I went back to New York…and specifically for a check up to my doctor…and he said it, I was diagnosed with AIDS…”

To that some understandably responded that one cannot develop AIDS in such a short time span from initial infection. At least there is no documented proof of such anywhere in the world. Hence, people had their doubts.

(2) The OP states on July 30, 2012, “6 months that I have withdrew from the program due to a situation that happened while I was on the island night before 2nd exam….”, which means the incident occurred on or before January 30, 2012. If spring semester begins in February, then it becomes impossible that the incident occurred the night before the second mini as this would mean we are well within the 6 month time since incident ocurred that OP quotes. So, the event must have occurred in fall semester, 2011 the night before mini-2.

Then comes another point raised by “Kadz” on July 31, 2012, who claims to know the OP. This post is extremely revealing. One may assert that “Kadz” is lying – but if you read his/her post carefully it appears to be written by someone who knew what had transpired.

(3) In his/her post “Kadz” writes that the OP was in financial trouble, not knowing how to fund the education further. The OP was removed from the school and not allowed to sit for mini-2 exam. Kadz also claims that the OP was borrowing money from friends without paying them back due to his expensive tastes.

Now think about this – how could someone who can afford expensive shoes and carry around $50 in their wallet at night (which to me is a lot…I carried a lot less when I was at Saba) also not have money to pay for tuition, be in constant financial trouble, and have to borrow money from their best friend? These are diametrically opposed images.

(4) “Kadz” brings up another very strong argument against the OP’s claim. The counter-argument posted on July 31, 2012 if anyone wants to read it states that the OP said he was beat up and thrown in the graveyard, even before classes began. Then how is it possible that this occurred the night before the mini-2? The only way this could happen then is that the OP discussed this with fellow students prior to classes beginning spring semester of what had occurred in fall semester.

In other words, the OP stuck around for weeks on the island after the incident occurred. This seems to be consistent then with statements by “Kadz” on July 31, 2012 and “NYMD121” on August 15, 2012.

Conclusion:

For those of you who have written arguments in defense of the OP, which I went back and read and then the counter-argument that the OP is flat out lying here is what I personally say;

All anyone can truly verify is that the OP was beat up….period. Correct? This coming from several people who claim they saw what he looked like the next day. BUT, one cannot then make a leap that this was unequivocally due to rape in the graveyard. Could it have happened – yes. But, no one can truly verify this. So, we are left to agree by blind faith and compassion.

The timeline of events makes no sense at all unless the OP wants to come back and specifically clarify this issue for everyone to dispell for those who understandably have doubts.

The counter-argument against the OP's story is compelling to say the least. In fact, althought it does not necessarily dispell rape from occuring, it goes as far as showing serious, tangible concerns that may raise eyebrows as to the vague nature of the story posted on July 30, 2012.