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    The official vote from student counsil

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    OK everyone, we, the student counsil, request all students and alumini to vote FOR or AGAINST the 5th SEMESTER MODEL SYSTEM.

    It is becoming a big issue, recently parents have started to call arguing that they don't want their children to go to Antigua campus and this is from students who are attending KMCIC campus...others are suggesting if the price of 5th semester, if cut in half, would be a good investment.

    So now this is the official vote taken FOR or AGAINST the program. The voting results will be collected from here as well as from AUA and KMCIC campuses. Whicever recieves the highest number of votes, that will be the final decision.

    Thank you.

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    1. Wouldn't you want to be voting against it?
    2. Why is it a problem to come to Antigua? Didn't you know this BEFORE going to AUA or KMCIC (which btw is not Cali approved)
    3. Why are you having your parents call? Your a big boy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by siheg View Post
    1. Wouldn't you want to be voting against it?
    2. Why is it a problem to come to Antigua? Didn't you know this BEFORE going to AUA or KMCIC (which btw is not Cali approved)
    3. Why are you having your parents call? Your a big boy now.
    DUDE ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW???which campus r u on..ill come talk to u face to face!!

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    I'm sorry...I'm on the secret squirrel satellite campus. I'm not allowed to divulge such info.

    In all seriousness: 5th semester doesnt sound like it's such a bad idea...sure we are paying for 6 weeks of self study time but hey consider it motivation to study or the parents will be REALLY upset!
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    yea let see how this sounds fair to you
    1) A kmcic student has to come to U.S after basic sciences then go to aua for 6 weeks then come back to us for rest of the semester. aua kid mhmmmmmm let me see , i am pretty sure they are not travelling around the world to finish up their 5th semester.
    2) the cost of travelling around the world for 5th sem is a minimum of $5k (plus tution) for kmcic graduate while its just going to be tution and some change for aua kid.
    3) basically kmcic students pay more money to graduate so they can practice in fewer states than aua kids. Fair?
    4) "twinning program" means what exactly it says. its not called "bastard program", so a person entering the " twinning program" suppose to get the same benefits as AUA students get.
    5)majority of the students that goes to kmcic is indian origin and indian parents are well involved in their kids education. so yea parents will call and bother the admins if the policies are unfair to their kids.
    6)and you pointed out that how KMCic is not cali aproved but aua is....i dont think thats something you should be proud of... after these are not separate schools, kmcic originated after manipal bought AUA , manipal group poured millions of dollars to get the new campus and everything which lead to the cali aproval. and i doubt without manipal groups financial influences AUA still would been on the same class as other 2nd tier caribean medical schools. so yea aua students you are absolutely no better than kmcic students. so just work for the greater good of both schools.




    welll i vote to have the entire 5th semester in U.S or the 6 weeks in INdia ( see if thats ok with aua students)

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrydoc View Post
    yea let see how this sounds fair to you
    1) A kmcic student has to come to U.S after basic sciences then go to aua for 6 weeks then come back to us for rest of the semester. aua kid mhmmmmmm let me see , i am pretty sure they are not travelling around the world to finish up their 5th semester.
    2) the cost of travelling around the world for 5th sem is a minimum of $5k (plus tution) for kmcic graduate while its just going to be tution and some change for aua kid.
    3) basically kmcic students pay more money to graduate so they can practice in fewer states than aua kids. Fair?
    4) "twinning program" means what exactly it says. its not called "bastard program", so a person entering the " twinning program" suppose to get the same benefits as AUA students get.
    5)majority of the students that goes to kmcic is indian origin and indian parents are well involved in their kids education. so yea parents will call and bother the admins if the policies are unfair to their kids.
    6)and you pointed out that how KMCic is not cali aproved but aua is....i dont think thats something you should be proud of... after these are not separate schools, kmcic originated after manipal bought AUA , manipal group poured millions of dollars to get the new campus and everything which lead to the cali aproval. and i doubt without manipal groups financial influences AUA still would been on the same class as other 2nd tier caribean medical schools. so yea aua students you are absolutely no better than kmcic students. so just work for the greater good of both schools.




    welll i vote to have the entire 5th semester in U.S or the 6 weeks in INdia ( see if thats ok with aua students)
    So, whats your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by siheg View Post
    I'm sorry...I'm on the secret squirrel satellite campus. I'm not allowed to divulge such info.

    In all seriousness: 5th semester doesnt sound like it's such a bad idea...sure we are paying for 6 weeks of self study time but hey consider it motivation to study or the parents will be REALLY upset!
    Dude grow some BALLS..if you need these kind of programs to get you motivated for studying then u shouldnt even be in medical school in first place
    These programs will not help at all because its not even right or the best.
    AUA is not dumb, they know FALCON is probably the worst program u could take..but U KNOW WHAT ?...they ONLY have to pay 1000-2000/ student and keep 10,000..now do the match 10,000 times number of students = MILLIONS OF DOLLARS...they will use this money to increase the schools budget or pay for rotation site[ they dont come for free naive boy]..its operating budget is only 38 million..they gotta load the pockets if it has to progress

    im sure people would love to do classes with better programs or save money and prepare on their own..NOT EVERYONE NEEDS THESE PROGRAMS...ppl who have been doing consistantly well in classes are doing much better on step 1 exam..besides there is no gain from hospital exposure, all you do is "shadow the doctor", ull just look at him doing everything, nothing will be gained, we students already do that at local hospitals
    the reason y AUA wants this is so they can slow down their process into clinicals.THERE IS A HUGE BACK LOG, students having been waiting since months and years to get rotation...this is the way to slow you down, otherwise everything will be a mess...watch after few years when there are abundant rotation spots, this program will be out [ if these programs did BREAK OR MAKE students score on step 1, THEN U.S. MEDICAL SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE INCORPORATED IT LOOOONGGG AGO, they would have created 5th sem where the faculty of that own school does the review, if not through other program, and take them to hospital...but there is no statistics that such programs work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousindian View Post
    Dude grow some BALLS. (My MIF worked find as an embryo)if you need these kind of programs to get you motivated for studying then u shouldnt even be in medical school in first place
    These programs will not help at all because its not even right or the best.(Sure, its not the best- but it was shown to help in the COMP results)
    AUA is not dumb, they know FALCON is probably the worst program u could take..but U KNOW WHAT ?...they ONLY have to pay 1000-2000/ student and keep 10,000..now do the match 10,000 times number of students = MILLIONS OF DOLLARS...they will use this money to increase the schools budget or pay for rotation site[ they dont come for free naive boy]..its operating budget is only 38 million..they gotta load the pockets if it has to progress (Source for your numbers?)

    im sure people would love to do classes with better programs or save money and prepare on their own..NOT EVERYONE NEEDS THESE PROGRAMS...(Not everyone needs to take the USMLE...if you want to rotate in the states and practice in the states, you need to follow the AUA program, not the KMIC program,which includes the 5th semester layout..you should of done your homework before not after this point)ppl who have been doing consistantly well in classes are doing much better on step 1 exam (WRONG AGAIN..In GENERAL...yes..but grades in the classes and scores on standardized exams are much different. My shelf exam scores are evidence of this.)..besides there is no gain from hospital exposure, all you do is "shadow the doctor", ull just look at him doing everything, nothing will be gained, we students already do that at local hospitals
    the reason y AUA wants this is so they can slow down their process into clinicals.THERE IS A HUGE BACK LOG (Source? This might have been the case a year or so ago, but the backlog is dissipating) students having been waiting since months and years to get rotation...this is the way to slow you down, otherwise everything will be a mess...watch after few years when there are abundant rotation spots, this program will be out [ if these programs did BREAK OR MAKE students score on step 1, THEN U.S. MEDICAL SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE INCORPORATED IT LOOOONGGG AGO,(US Schools are a different situation...these students are better test takers, and their curriculum (i.e. timing, is different) AUA is a good school, but it's accelerated.) they would have created 5th sem where the faculty of that own school does the review, if not through other program, and take them to hospital...but there is no statistics that such programs work.
    If it were up to me, I would move the review to the states and get Kaplan. N.S. said that the review or any didactic instruction needs to take place in the country where the school is chartered. I'm not sure about this because their are several other schools where the Kaplan in Maine (UMHS) or other review course is held back in the states. For me personally, I have no issues with the review being held in Antigua, but would somewhat prefer the states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by siheg View Post
    If it were up to me, I would move the review to the states and get Kaplan. N.S. said that the review or any didactic instruction needs to take place in the country where the school is chartered. I'm not sure about this because their are several other schools where the Kaplan in Maine (UMHS) or other review course is held back in the states. For me personally, I have no issues with the review being held in Antigua, but would somewhat prefer the states.
    My point is morons like u are the reason why there is messed up 5 th sem system coz u cant see the big picture. Ur tiny brain incapable of seeing anything beyond what infront of you. Yea its true u have no probs having review in antiqua coz u freaking go there..how abt them kmcic students.if everyone argues for review in us it wud make the argument stronger and they will act on it .

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    yaaaa....THE WHOLE 5TH SEM NEEDS TO BE IN STATES OR REMOVE IT COMPLETELY. PERIOD

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