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Old 05-24-2006, 10:57 AM
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One thing that I dont understand is, when it comes to being licensed in California, AUA is not licensed.

How is it that there are doctors practicing medicine in California that have gone to medical school in Canada, India, Pakistan, Iraq, China, Russia, Japan, South America, Mexico, etc, and that is fine? And here we are wondering that AUA is not approved. Thats pathetic, that I personally know someone that when to a small medical school in India on a donation basis, and is now a ER doc in Los Angleles. And yea that might be one case, which I know isnt, how come AUA is not approved by California. Thats complete nonsense. Also, what about if I attend AUA and gradaute from AUA in 2010 and AUA gets approved for in Cali in 2011? What happens then?
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Actually it is approved

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It is approved not licensed by Ca
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One thing that I dont understand is, when it comes to being licensed in California, AUA is not licensed.

How is it that there are doctors practicing medicine in California that have gone to medical school in Canada, India, Pakistan, Iraq, China, Russia, Japan, South America, Mexico, etc, and that is fine? And here we are wondering that AUA is not approved. Thats pathetic, that I personally know someone that when to a small medical school in India on a donation basis, and is now a ER doc in Los Angleles. And yea that might be one case, which I know isnt, how come AUA is not approved by California. Thats complete nonsense. Also, what about if I attend AUA and gradaute from AUA in 2010 and AUA gets approved for in Cali in 2011? What happens then?
This looks like a rant - am not a cheerleader for AUA this is just the reality for island schools start ups in general. It takes time to get on the California list - they have a big stick right now with Nv and Tn using their list. Maybe more in the coming years.
- So buckle and have some backbone - here are your choices - get into a US school 17,500 chances a year - ask yourself why you can't get in a US school - if you know the reason - then be happy with what your next set of choices are - Apply to Ca approval schools - AUC, Ross, SGU, Saba etc, If you can't get in those schools then - be daring and try the start up schools AUA etc. - They will be an adventure for sure. Yes, you will have issues and place you can't practice. But you will have a MD - not being a very good pyschic - I don't think anyone can predict the future.
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What is the difference between getting approved and licensed?

And Also, lets say in 15 years down the road I would like to have a private practice or work in a hsopital in LA, will I be able to? Also, are there any regualtions for Arizona?
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you realize if the school is approved 10 yrs from now there is no promise it will be retroactive and include all students who graduate 10 years before---

look this has been discussed a 100 times---if cali is important to you go to a cali approved school and dont screw around with ones that are not

and no you cannot run a private practice in cali if you cannot get licensed---if you cannot get licensed you cannot practice

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What is the difference between getting approved and licensed?
And Also, lets say in 15 years down the road I would like to have a private practice or work in a hsopital in LA, will I be able to? Also, are there any regualtions for Arizona?
A license is what an individual gets. Schools being corporations - only get approval based on factors of staff - infrastructure and quality of students. NY can only approve AUA as certified/bonifided school - NY licenses you as an MD. Sort of like a baber has a license a barber shop has a business permit.
Now about the future - If Ca times stamps AUA like they did Saba - then it depends on your grad date. About AZ - do a google search to find the AZ state medical license board. Then call them or read the website.

Here is the link I found
http://www.azdor.gov/609/Medical%20Examiners.html

What my plan for licensure is - is to get in three or four states as fast as I can. That way if rules change - I would be grandfathered in. In any case I suggest getting legal counsel when your time comes for this.
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One thing that I dont understand is, when it comes to being licensed in California, AUA is not licensed.

How is it that there are doctors practicing medicine in California that have gone to medical school in Canada, India, Pakistan, Iraq, China, Russia, Japan, South America, Mexico, etc, and that is fine? And here we are wondering that AUA is not approved. Thats pathetic, that I personally know someone that when to a small medical school in India on a donation basis, and is now a ER doc in Los Angleles. And yea that might be one case, which I know isnt, how come AUA is not approved by California. Thats complete nonsense. Also, what about if I attend AUA and gradaute from AUA in 2010 and AUA gets approved for in Cali in 2011? What happens then?
Domicile schools,where the goal is to train citizens of a that country for practice in that country, will generally be automatically approved by CA. Even though most of them are not equivalent to US med schools. The Caribbean schools do not fall into this category. They are established for the goal of 1. Making money 2. making money, and 3. having their grads go practice in the US.

There are 4 CA approved Caribbean schools. SGU, AUC, Ross, and Saba. They have had to show that their facilities and education are equivalent to those of US sdhools. AUA would have to pay to have CA come and evaluate them. Do a search on the St. Matthew's forum, since about a year ago there was a lot of disucussion about the CA requirements and evaluation process. In fact, the CA report on the site visit to St. Matthew's is posted there somewhere. (St. Matthew's was denied CA approval, BTW). It will give you some insight.

If AUA is approved in 2011, anyone who graduated before that time will still not be able to practice in CA. The approvals have not typically been retroactive to my knowledge. If you want CA, go to a school that is CA approved. G
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So you guys are telling me, that St. Matthews didnt get licensed in California, but other Small schools in, Mexica, Brazil, Russia, India, Paskistan, Bangladesh, China got approved? I see. There are about 30 docs that me and my family are familiar with, who went to these schools. Thats makes a lot of sense.
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