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Old 11-11-2004, 04:56 PM
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All Saints Medical School-Aruba turns out to be apparently a

I was doing some surfing on the internet and all of a sudden a medical school I hadn't heard of popped up on my screen: All Saints,Aruba. It offers pre-med training in Toronto..it all seemed so familiar to me. So I did some snooping and lo and behold if you call the office that had a similiar program with St. James that unraveled when St. James discovered that it wasn't possible to get licensed if you studied in Canada, you'll get the same people...

the page from Medway in the old days was at:

http://accesseon.ca/bd/prof/536.html

St. James comments on the program is at:

http://www.sjsm.org/news.php

Attention: Premed Applicants !!!

For purposes of accreditation from US State Licensing Boards SJSM cannot endorse any premedical program outside its Basic Science campus or accept credit from non-accredited premedical courses. Any private agency that claims to offer a premed program under the sponsorship of SJSM should be disregarded.
SJSM is no longer associated with Medway International, Canada. All present and prospective students are advised to communicate with our Admissions Office in Chicago directly at 1-800-542-1553.

Anyway, Medway has a forward message at their number which then forwards you to MEERC.

BE CAREFUL WITH THIS PROGRAM UNTIL YOU'VE CHECKED THEM OUT WITH the Canadian govt.


All Sain'ts Medical School has 2 campuses: one in Toronto Canada and
the other in Aruba. It just began teaching medicine per their website.


http://asum.meerc.com/

HIGHLIGHTS

ASUM's medical program prepares medical students to become efficient,
exemplary and ethical doctors. ASUM's mission is to provide students
with the solid foundation in medicine necessary to ensure that its
graduates are able to overcome any challenges during their medical
careers. ASUM strives to establish a reputable institution of learning
where each student's success contributes to and reflects upon its own
success as a university.

HISTORY & FUTURE OUTLOOK

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All Saints University of Medicine surfaces as the brainchild of
eminent Doctoral Professors possessing more than fifteen (15) years of
experience in the International and Central American/Caribbean medical
education system backed by expertise from Administrators of global
repute.

Established in 2002 as a medical school consultancy, we have been
providing prospective medical students information and admission
services to medical schools in the Caribbean ever since. Our services
proved to be vital to the growth of some Caribbean medical schools, by
enriching and expanding student population. Through our organization,
hundreds of students have gained admission to medical schools in the
Caribbean and United Kingdom. In January of 2004, MEERC was
incorporated and MCAT/premedical/USMLE tutorials were conducted.
Experienced and qualified staff and faculty have served to ensure a
100% success rate of students entering Basic Science Programs at
universities of their choice, and successful completion of the MCAT
and USMLE. Our students have come from varied backgrounds and
ethnicities (Canadian and US Citizens, Trinidadians, Jamaicans, South
Americans, Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Nigerians, Koreans,
Zambians, Fijians, etc. to name a few!).

True to its goal of expansion and success, in late 2004, MEERC has now
established its own medical School - All Saints University of
Medicine, chartered by the Government of the Island Republic of Aruba.
ASUM will provide highly qualified, compassionate and efficient
medical doctors with strong ethical backgrounds.

As a first step in increasing the range of programs available, a BSc.
Nursing program will commence from January of 2005. We are also in
the process of acquiring land in Aruba to build and operate a modern
campus of over 6 hectares! This campus will be fully equipped with
state of the art equipment, laboratories and research facilities to
provide a conductive learning experience for our students.
Accommodations will be provided by local residents till our provision
of a future dorm on campus. We conduct fully accredited degree
programs with competent faculty and innovative facilities, to provide
a solid medical foundation and to enable students to obtain license to
practice medicine in US, Canada, UK or any other member country of the
United Nations. These are just parts of the multimillion dollar
expansion project which is to be carried out by MEERC Inc. in the near
future. Be sure to visit our site regularly for updates!

ASUM is recognized by the Government of Aruba, by virtue of the
issuance of a Charter.

Our MD program is also accredited by both the Ministry of Health and
the Ministry of Education in Aruba.

"The International Medical Education Directory (IMED) provides an
accurate and up-to-date resource of information about international
medical schools that are recognized by the appropriate government
agency in the countries where the medical schools are located. The
agency responsible for this recognition in most countries is the
Ministry of Health. Medical schools that are recognized by the
appropriate agencies in their respective countries are listed in the
International Medical Education Directory.

A medical school is listed in IMED after FAIMER receives confirmation
from the Ministry of Health or other appropriate agency that the
medical school is recognized by the Ministry or other agency. FAIMER
also updates the International Medical Education Directory as
information about medical schools is received from Ministries of
Health or other appropriate agencies."

The above quote is from the International Medical Education Directory
website, and corroborates that ASUM qualifies for enlistment into the
IMED, due to its recognition by the respective agencies in Aruba. Once
ASUM's status is updated in the IMED, it will then be listed in the
WHO Directory of Medical Schools. Visit our site regularly for
updates!

Students will be eligible for licensure in the United States, Canada,
and the United Kingdom.

Clinical Rotations will be arranged in some of the most prestigious
hospitals in the United States.

The student's progress is reviewed by a promotions committee and
assists in the student's improvement in performance each semester.

USMLE styled testing familiarizes students with the board examinations.

CONTACT US

General Inquiries: asum@meerc.com
Director of Administration: admin@meerc.com | Director of Academics:
acadamics@meerc.com

Head Office/Mailing Address:
5145 Steeles Avenue West, Entrance B
Suite 223, Toronto, Ontario, M9L 1R5, Canada
Tel: 416.743.9222 Fax: 416.743.2688
Office Hours: Mon-Thurs 9am-5pm, Fri 9am-3:30pm Aruba Campus:
All Saints University of Medicine
Orenjestad, Aruba
Tel: 011.297.962.7793
Office Hours: Mon-Thurs 9am-5pm, Fri 9am-3:30pm
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:32 AM
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Exclamation All Saints Warning

MEERC a Canadian Company to offer unaccredited "undergraduate" Science and MD Degrees !

For $6000 Students can get their Science degree from MEERC
http://www.meerc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid =5
http://www.meerc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4&Itemid =4

Then guaranteed acceptance to MEERC Owned "All Saints Medical School" in Aruba !
http://www.asumaruba.org/

There are many problems with the latter, for one, internal conflicts of interest, pertaining to academic standards. Students get a science degree and an MD from the same private corporation !

Regulations have to be in order,

Provincial / state medical boards were contacted in addition to the MCC To look into the matter !! ( as MEERC is mainly targeting CDN University rejects or highschool graduates looking to obtain an MD within 5 years w/o real university experience)


I Urge prospective students to investigate the latter as this may leave you with an unlicensed degree !!!

The MCC, CMA and numerous provincial state licensing boards are now looking into the matter......

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Exclamation All Saints Warning

MEERC a Canadian Company to offer unaccredited "undergraduate" Science and MD Degrees !

For $6000 Students can get their Science degree from MEERC
http://www.meerc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid =5
http://www.meerc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4&Itemid =4

Then guaranteed acceptance to MEERC Owned "All Saints Medical School" in Aruba !
http://www.asumaruba.org/

There are many problems with the latter, for one, internal conflicts of interest, pertaining to academic standards. Students get a science degree and an MD from the same private corporation !

Regulations have to be in order,

Provincial / state medical boards were contacted in addition to the MCC To look into the matter !! ( as MEERC is mainly targeting CDN University rejects or highschool graduates looking to obtain an MD within 5 years w/o real university experience)


I Urge prospective students to investigate the latter as this may leave you with an unlicensed degree !!!

The MCC, CMA and some of the provincial licensing boards are now looking into the matter......

Best wishes,
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Exclamation All Saints Warning To Canadians

Canadian MEERC to offer unaccredited "undergraduate" Science and MD Degrees !

http://www.meerc.org
Then guaranteed acceptance to "All Saints Medical School" owned by MEERC in Aruba:
http://www.asumaruba.org/

There are many problems with the latter, for one, internal conflicts of interest, pertaining to academic standards. Students get a science degree and an MD from the same private unaccredited corporation. Provincial / state medical boards were contacted in addition to the MCC To look into the matter !! ( as MEERC is mainly targeting CDN University rejects or highschool graduates looking to obtain an MD within 5 years w/o real university experience) I Urge prospective students to investigate the latter as this may leave you with an unlicensed degree !!!

Canadian provincial licensing boards are now looking into the matter......
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Always some drama!!!!!

The ball keeps on rolling for the innocents....sad and sadder

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I received emails from few provincial licensing officials, stating "ALL Saints, School of Medicine" is under investigation.......Credits obtained from an unrecognized university leading to science diploma or an MD Degree will not be acceptable, upon licensing review......"

MCC is also reviewing applications from ALL SAINTS School of Medicine. It will be mandated that official transcripts of not only the Medical school but also prior university will be submitted. !!! leaving many graduates with no chance of medical licensure...
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THX you for taking your vital time to trash talk about this school why is it that you talk trash about this one and not others that are also doing the same things...it just doenst make sense as a student attending this university we have prioties in studying not reading and dreading over stupid non sense like this...I know you use to work for this school and the fact that you have been fired and been disgraced by the heads of the school doenst give you the right to talk trash about the school itself and put students that go their in jerperdy...if you have problems take you grudge up with the heads of the school not the school itself...you were once a student your self and you know with all the stress and time a student put into studying and getting things done the only thing he needs is ppl trash talking about a school that he/she attends...so please stop the bittering and get on your with your life....WAT A WASTE to see that a person who is in residency would waste his time on discreminating a school, for the fact that they had done something to you in the past....WORD OF ADVICE READ UP AND RESEARCH ON FINDING A CURE FOR THE SICK..put your good skills to that cuase you sure to seem to be good at it. P.S this is one of your students who use to look up to you...dnt shoot it down the drain dr.**** ****..

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Are you serious ?? I have absolutely and never had any affiliation with MEERC nor with All Saints Aruba...I'm practicing in Ontario, Canada, and recently was aware of the different businesses and scams going on in the carribeans......All Saints is one of the bad players that I encountered.....So, I reported the school to the regulatory officials in Canada and the US.....with the hopes that regulations will be placed in order........I would encourage you to transfer or start in another program. As I doubt any graduate will end up with proper education and licensure, in the near future..

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your kidding me rite..how can you go judge this school and know so much about it...without actually attending the school..why do you even waste your time...I cant beleive you even have the time to ** about this school and put all these students in jerperdy..if I were you I would start thinking about what I want to special in and get on with life and let the students who are attending the school worry about where and what to do...P.S dnt take us for fools... the student body will take it up with regulatory officials in Canada and the US as well as the heads of the school. If I were you MOVE ON AND STOP TRASHING THIS SCHOOL when you got other school also on the list as well.
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your kidding me rite..how can you go judge this school and know so much about it...without actually attending the school..why do you even waste your time...I cant beleive you even have the time to ** about this school and put all these students in jerperdy..if I were you I would start thinking about what I want to special in and get on with life and let the students who are attending the school worry about where and what to do...P.S dnt take us for fools... the student body will take it up with regulatory officials in Canada and the US as well as the heads of the school. If I were you MOVE ON AND STOP TRASHING THIS SCHOOL when you got other school also on the list as well.

as a student you often miss the big picture. your job as a student is not just to "study" but to make sure you can work in the end.

any school that is doing things within borders of the law should have no problems no matter how many times it is reported

bottom line, try not to attend new unproven schools with innovative programs...it just isn;t worth it..there are PLENTY of places that pretty much accept anyone with the pre reqs that have working grads so why risk it?

and yes new schools have to start somewhere and the established schools were once like this, but i wouldn;t have gone to them 20 years ago either.

i love how all new schools are always in "process" of building a campus! if a school started up properly the campus shoudl alreday be built and the charter class would be attending it and not some run down rented buildings....
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