Thank you, I agree with you that start up operations have to budget and start with low capital....However, Medical schools should never cut corners on the expense of society.......Would you go under the knife if you knew the surgeon, started medical training in a private college called MEERC, NOT in reputable or recognized college/university, followed by attendance of a new medical school under staff and run down operation in Aruba for 3-4 years ? in comparison to US/CDN and some of the good offshore medical schools where the average MD obtained AT LEAST 8 years in regulated post secondary education, took the MCATs etc...who would you rather have as a surgeon ??

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Not sure what floats your boat as a patient under a surgeons knife, but it would make more sense to choose the doctor that scored higher on USMLE's rather than MCAT's.

Every new school has its problems, and the students are the innocent ones. What makes it worse are rumours being created. ASUM is in transition for bigger and better things. For this, certain things are going under review.

Just remember, MCC is not an accrediting body, but a licensing board. I would encourage people to call MCC directly and find the truth like I have and you will see how many weird rumours are actually being posted.

What is you affiliation with Aruba's All Saints......?

We are working in Canada on listing offshore schools as in some states based on approval and acceptable standards....All saints, among others is not an acceptable medical program....!!

Good luck !

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well you havent been exactly forthcoming with your identity either. you have a self proclaimed title of img advisor and that is what you pass yourself off as to perhaps gain more credibility, no ones designated that role to you as far as anyone knows. I think before asking for others to disclose their affiliations that maybe you should do the same?

Hello, I am a radiologist practicing in Ontario, Canada, offshore medicine beacme an interesting topic / issue as I participiated with the Ontario, IMG program early 2003...I became aware of so many offshore schools, some with very poor educational standards...As I started to look into some of these school I was shock to find what I call "bad players" most are in the CARICOM region....Some of the moderators here know me, better than others.......
I try to stay as objective as possible.....however, some of the students here take some issues personally......
Facts are you can't compare your standards to a US/Canadian Medical schools. There are some good programs out there, but the vast majority are pure medical joke.

Good luck !

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I agree. But also know for any 'legite' school to come into being, they have to start somewhere. Most of the big schools in the caribbeans started somewhere small as well, and where they are now because of time and success. However, it cannot always be said that a new school is just another 'pure medical joke'. It can just as equally be another great medical school in the making, especially considering how fast and successful they progress (for example, ASUM)! I have just found out that MCC has, and still allows, students of ASUM eligible to write their licensing exams.

I was tired of seeing manipulated information being given out about ASUM and some other schools on these forums. I decided I should share the real FACTS.

Not acceptable? How so?

USMLE, ECFMG, and MCC recognizes the school still as of this moment. Only WHO is still pending on updates.

at least spell Caribbean correctly will ya?

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"great medical school in the making" should not be a basis for selecting a school.

other great medical schools in the making that haven't quite made it over the last 5 years:

1)St Christopher's with a humanitarian mission followed by St Christopher Iba Dior Mop, and St Chris MUA Belize UK
2)IUHS with the promise of studying medicine while working full time in the US
3)Vanguard
4)Oceania
5)Grace
6)Medical College of London
7)Kigezi with a world vision
8)AIU
9)St Luke
10)AUA-KMC twinning program

and some new schools that have a heads up on this

1)St James
2)MUA Belize
3)Xavier
3)Statia
4)Winsor
5)AUA

and others that have been successful

1)SMU
2)Spartan
3)MUA Nevis


You don't think the market for new pis poor planned schools is saturated? yes AUC Ross and SGU started out in new teritory as small poorly funded schools 20 YEARS ago and if it was 20 years ago i wouldn't go to any of them either. i always wonder how many other schools tried and closed before the internet era that we don't know about?

regardless, ross, auc, and sgu mapped out the business and have given an easy template for anyone to follow, build a campus, get students, get approvals, and count the green..it isn't complicated..problem is students are so desperate to get into any "medical school", using the term loosely, that they can get away with promising a campus without a time line, comitement, funding. promising faculty of high caliber without actually listing any, promising clinical sites without a contracted hospital...

as long as there is despiration there will be those profiting..just look at the poor SC students with 200k in debt having to start all over at other schools..now that was a promising school...

i am so freakin sick of all new schools planning a campus years down the road, they hold 'groundbreakings' and plant flags on the "sites" that i personally haven't seen developed once past the news headlines saying something is planned other than MUA...

why do people go to new schools? i don't know but the only reason shoudl be failure to gain acceptance anywhere else until they build a rep why would you wanna be a test case?

ok rant off

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