To my knowledge, it is possible to do residency in NY even if your school is not on the NY approved list b/c of the main fact that the "approval" only is for clinicals not for residency. But in a state like California, the clause is that you school must be on the approved list to do clinicals and(or) residency. If i am wrong then plz have a State Board official send me a pm.

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Yes, you can do residency in NY - the catch 22 is that if your school is not NY certified - you can't apply for a license there after it is over. So you are limited to 12 weeks clinical and no residency if you want to apply for a medical license in NY. It is in their website in the rules. No need to PM. It is not written in over technical legal verbiage either. Pretty clear. Also none of the new schools will have federal loans the Schools that are old like Ross, AUC and SGU are grandfathered in. Some action has been done to stop those schools from getting the Stafford loans also.

Hmmmm.... that is rather weird.... could you provide the link to the site that clearly states this..... i would like to compare it to the site where i got my information..... lastly, thanks for the heads up.

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its all in here

NYS Medicine Requirements

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You Will have to scroll around on the site but I think it is here in the fine print

NYS Medicine Application Forms

Look at the forms 2CC and read carefully. This also has the list of approved schools on it.

Sooner or later most of the new schools are going to get NY approval. It is a matter of time. I think the so called big four schools can't hold the monopoly & continue to charge high fees from students.

Regarding, loans, most of the major lenders require a school to exit atleast three years existence for providing loan.

I am told by one of the ASUM clinical student that their school do have 12 weeks IM clinical rotations in NY and the school is making arrangement to provide full rotations in New Jersey.

NY takes a site visit - then a vote for approval. There are schools older then AUA that have not even had a site visit. So the school has to request it. The site visit will cost the school money. They have to see # professors and degrees of professors, school facilities and tests the students are taking and grades. If the students are getting multiple choice test with one choice - well that is not going to fly well with them. Schools do not pass the sites visits. SMU and Ca comes to mind. Saba was effective dated in their Ca approval. 12 weeks is the max a non approved school can do in NY. Why is NY approval and clinicals important? Answer # of teaching hospitals is very high there.

then how did AUA manage to get NY approval w/out a site visit?

also, thank you for all the info. it was really helpful.

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AUA had their site visit in the Fall of 2005 - In late May-June of 2006 they were added to the list. From the site visit(s) to the school being added on the NY website was almost 9 months. If you did back in the AUA forum in this time frame you will see several threads about this. You will also see given to me much of the advise I wrote here. It was a major factor in me not going to AUA. I decided I was being very hasty in getting an MD. I needed to back up and do the correct steps #1 will be attempt to get into a US school after I finish a Masters in Biology. I will study for and retake the MCAT. Shooting for a high 30's number, If I don't get in a US school, then I will get a PhD and/or do a Island medical school.