Here is a thought.... did it occur to you even once that New Schools match less students than older ones because they have less students. WOW!! what a statement that is... i mean if you only have 10 grads then how can you expect to match a 100 grads. And for the record All Saints, i feel, has already surpassed some of the older schools in the Caribbean!!!!

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wait til the interview trail hits and where you actually get to interview to fall in love with a school. again its not all about board scores though they matter a great deal. once again some places will not look at your application if theya re not familiar with the program...take that for what its worth and at this point in your medical student developemnt that statement has very little meaning because very little is actually getting through

as for the numbers that isn't what you should focus on but where those are, type of program, etc....yey! i'l say it again get into the absolute best school you are capable of. if all saints is the best then make the most of it but know that as a new school you are charting a new course that can lead towards what SMU has done or what the other 20+ new schools have done...medical college of london, iuhs, grace, st luke, st chris, oceania, delphi and the rest we don't know about.

best of luck

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I see light at the end of the tunnel!!!...wait a minute its just another freakin tunnel!

Lets look at this percent wise when comparing schools.

I will use an example - St James a school further along than All Saints - Think this year with a class size of 20-23 people in the match - so far only one reports matching in IM, location - program unknown.

So lets use the class size of twenty in this example so 1/20 = 5% matched. Whereas at Ross, SGU, Saba and AUC about 85-90% matched or pre-matched and the rest scrambled.

I am sure if the All Saints owners and teachers are doing the correct thing - All Saints will be a good school - I also appreciate your willingness to be a pathfinder and I wish you well.

By the way I think last year St James places seven out of a class of about 20 in residency - least thats what the website said. That's about a 35% placement.

let me tell you that I would never invest my time money energy into this school,,,the risks here outweigh the rewards,,imo,,,choose ya weapons in life and go for it me,,I like to reduce my risks in life if this is the only school you got into or can afford then go for it,,,what else can anyone say..if you want it you want it and you want it but deal with the results like a man when it comes at you like a speeding inferno of flames

you can't look at the amount of grads, what James was talking about was percentage.

anyway it is good to take pride in your school, although i'm curious to think what schools you feel All Saints has surpassed. I mean I don't know much about All Saints, but I don't know you could make a statement like that without even attending these other schools you speak of. Obvious comparisons would be state approval, federal loans, residency placement...the list goes on. All Saints does not have NY approval yet, that limits its comparison to only a few schools such as St. James. St. James already has grads in residency so right now, I don't even think you can compare them to that.

Bottom line, I'm glad that you love your school and as people as said before, you should try to get in the best school you can and if All Saints is the best, then kudos for you. You do have to be a little more realistic and face the possibilities of problems in the future. As the school progresses and is still around, those problems begin to diminish. As long as you have the understanding that you are an "explorer" and your school is just too new to really compare to even some of other newer schools (SMU, AUA, MUA-N, even St. James and Xavier) then you should be fine.

Good luck

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From SGU's match thread - Why you may do 4 years at All Saints and other schools and still come up short in the match & scramble.

Sobering?

DOC, you do realize that AUA doesn't have federal loans either!!! and NY approval in reality means nothing for a schools program in terms of study for NY approval only grants schools the ability to do clinicals in NY!!! Residencies are gain on individual performance on the Steps not the school of graduation. Lastly, what are these problems of the future you speak of??? Also what school do you go to???

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I may be wrong on this, but I thought that you couldn't do residency in a state your school is not approved in?

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Apparently you can, b/c he used 3 !'s and 3?'s with every statement that was made.

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