I remember AUA and the twinning program and the DOE, even I argued with Sree about it.
I do know the Oregon guy hangs around silently on these forums. I am not very fond to the way he does business, Oregon tends to use anything posted in any sort of media to list a school in their site, but when you have a lay person running things, you can't make 100% of the people happy. At least California and New York has a system implemented site visits, etc. Oregon is a different ball game (I am not saying they don't do a good job, but sometimes they cross the line), all bets are off with them. Different subject anyway.
How about Xavier? Do you remember their status? Didn't they had more or less the same issues in the beginning with their charter because they were not IMED listed or was it for WHO? I can't remember very well.
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Originally Posted by Scott1981
fair enough. collectively as a whole, this forum is working because somebody must be reporting them to the state authorities, hence this is why oregon just added them to their misdemeanor list.
as for as AUA, i never said it was me alone who caused them to change. however, i can say i was part of the reason they changed. the constant battles about AUA claiming they can place students in cali rotations where rampant on that forum. i had arguemtns with AUA officials and even posted an email i had with an AUA official while i posed as a potential california student. i forwarded that email to pat park, who then made frequent visits to the AUA forum to confront them. i am sure i was not the only one who emailed info to the cali med board.
AUA's twinning program. i didnt get involved in this argument too much regarding federal student aid. however, i know many who did that started contacting the DOE.
im not taking credit for anything, VMD takes all the credit. it allowed the scrutiny to make the proper authorities aware of the situation. AUA then completely changed there tactics.
so, im sorry you misinterpreted my previous post as me personally taking credit for AUA's reversal. come on, lets be real. AUA and VMD should be the only one who should take credit. VMD was the forum that showed AUA that going by the book was the only way to go because people will go to the authorities. i commend AUA on their improvements.
as soon as CMU gets a charter, believe it or not, most of the arguments will go away and the risk of this school will be the same as all the other startups providing they get REAL rotations and can confirm them with concrete hospital affiliations.
all we ask for on vmd is that they have the bare minimum assets that all other startups have. out in the open hospital affiliations and a charter. once they get those (which they lack), the whole website plagiarism will eventually fade into the past if the school progresses without any other signs of deceit just like AUA did.
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