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surgery is great - our best surgery center hands down, lots and lots of good experience, excellent opportunity for letters of recommendation, hours are brutal 5am-5pm, frequent calls - when you request surgery here, aua gives you 8 weeks by default - while that is ok for licensure, i dont think its enough to give you a sufficient surgery experience and enough to get a nice letter of recommendation - highly recommend that you request 12 weeks of surgery. if the person on the other end of the phone line doesn't understand what 12 weeks of surgery means, explain that you want 8 weeks of general and 4 weeks of special surgery.
IM is good too - not like Harbor, but it's ok i guess - daily lectures, free food, etc., + you'll see Dr. K - Unlike Harbor Hospital, this program doesn't have a ICU component, so if you're into critical care medicine you should just do an elective in it (at the same hospital). the advantage over harbor is that this program (and the hospital in general) takes very very few students. Sometimes you'll be the only student on a rotation - like I've been , twice. But, that's great because you get more attention and learn more.
Ob is great - probably our best Ob program, there's a clinic portion and you even get to assist with Ob surgeries (OB/GYN here is no longer Green as of July 2008)
FM - great program, million times better than Jackson park, but its at nearby North Oakland (rather than at St. Joe's) which actually has a family medicine residency program - residents are rly nice and there's daily lectures etc.
The radiology elective is greenbook here as well, if you're interested in going into that field.
Peds - NOT GREENBOOK NO MATTER WHAT AUA OR ANYONE SAYS- and it's horrible - I dropped out after 2 weeks - bad teaching environment - The only reason to do Peds here is if you are absolutely sure that you want to practice in a state that accepts Blue-Book rotations. Michigan probably will not allow you to practice if you do this rotation, New York probably will since they don't care what you do outside their state, as long as the stuff you do within NY state is ACGME or AOA.
Recommend you do IM, FM, Surg, Ob, and IM electives here. Once again, do not do Peds here if you are looking for Greenbook rotations. There are plenty of AUA students who got tricked into doing it here - 3 have dropped it, to date.
oh and this place is getting popular and getting booked so apply asap. if you can't get in right away, take care of peds/psych in NY and get everything else done in MI - since you can't do peds/psych in MI, to date, though that might change by the time you're here.
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Last edited by Sree Cheruku; 04-18-2008 at 11:27 PM.
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