Clearly, the point I have made has sailed over your head or u truly don't get it. You have no desire to use this forum in the manner for which it was designed. Accurate and informative exchange of information. A constructive process.

Believe me I never had any doubts that your parents came with you!
Hint: it's time to cut the apron strings.

So...you're right it's best that you end this discussion (adults discuss...children argue) and don't forget to ask mom and dad what time you can stay out 'til tonite.